How is kobe not top 5 alltime when there arent 5 players with a better resume?

[superunknown23]

6× NBA champion (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)
6× NBA Finals MVP (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991–1992, 1996, 1998)
14× NBA All-Star (1985–1993, 1996–1998, 2002–2003)
10× NBA scoring champion (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
3× NBA steals champion (1988, 1990, 1993)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1988)
10× All-NBA First Team (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
All-NBA Second Team (1985)
9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1988–1993, 1996–1998)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1985)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1985)
3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)
2× NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (1987–1988)
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

Against a 1985–86 Boston Celtics team that is often considered one of the greatest in NBA history,[22] Jordan set the still-unbroken record for points in a playoff game with 63 in Game 2.

Jordan had recovered completely by the 1986–87 season, and had one of the most prolific scoring seasons in NBA history. He became the only player other than Wilt Chamberlain to score 3,000 points in a season, averaging a league high 37.1 points on 48.2% shooting.[12] In addition, Jordan demonstrated his defensive prowess, as he became the first player in NBA history to record 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season.

Jordan led the league in scoring again in the 1987–88 season, averaging 35.0 ppg on 53.5% shooting[12] and won his first league MVP award. He was also named the Defensive Player of the Year, as he had averaged 1.6 blocks and a league high 3.16 steals per game.

In the 1988–89 season, Jordan again led the league in scoring, averaging 32.5 ppg on 53.8% shooting from the field, along with 8 rpg and 8 assists per game

In his first Finals appearance, Jordan posted per game averages of 31.2 points on 56% shooting from the field, 11.4 assists, 6.6 rebounds, 2.8 steals and 1.4 blocks.[32] Jordan won his first NBA Finals MVP award

In the first game, Jordan scored a Finals-record 35 points in the first half, including a record-setting six three-point field goals.

He averaged a Finals-record 41.0 ppg during the six-game series,[38] and became the first player in NBA history to win three straight Finals MVP awards.[33] He scored more than 30 points in every game of the series, including 40 or more points in 4 consecutive games. With his third Finals triumph, Jordan capped off a seven-year run where he attained seven scoring titles and three championships

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List of career achievements by Michael Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some highlights

Scored 10+ points in all but one of 1,109 regular season and playoff games as a Bull (8 points on March 22, 1986 vs. the Cavs)
Scored 20+ points in 1,099 games (926 regular season, 173 postseason)
Scored 30+ points in 671 games (562 regular season, 109 postseason)
Scored 40+ points in 211 games (173 regular season, 38 postseason)
Scored 50+ points in 39 games (31 regular season, 8 postseason)
Scored 60+ points in 5 games (4 regular season, 1 postseason)
Recorded 31 triple-doubles (28 regular season, 2 postseason, 1 All-Star Game)
Recorded 240 double-doubles (201 regular season, 39 postseason)
11-time regular season leader, total points (1985, '87-'93, '96-'98)
10-time regular season leader, scoring average ('86-'93, '95-'98)
3-time regular season leader, steals ('88, '90, '93)

NBA records
Seasons leading the league in scoring: 10 (1986–87-1992–93, 1995–96-1997–98)
Consecutive seasons leading the league in scoring: 7 (1986–87-1992–93)
Seasons leading the league in total points: 11 (1984–85, 1986–87-1992–93, 1995–96-1997–98)
Highest scoring average, points per game, career: 30.12 (32,292/1,072)
Seasons averaging 30 or more points per game: 8 (1986–87-1992–93, 1995–96)
Games scoring 30 or more points, career: 561

Playoffs
Scoring
Points, career: 5,987
Highest scoring average, points per game, career: 33.4 (5,987/179)
Games scoring 50 or more points, career: 8
Consecutive games scoring 50 or more points: 2, vs. Cleveland Cavaliers,April 28, 1988 toMay 1, 1988
Jordan is the only player in NBA history to record back-to-back 50 point games in the playoffs, scoring 50 and 55 in Games 1 and 2 against the Cavs.
He also scored 49 points on April 17, 1986 and 63 on April 20, 1986 in back-to-back games against the Boston Celtics.

NBA Finals
Scoring
Highest scoring average, points per game, any championship series: 41.0 (246/6), vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals
Points, 6-game series: 246, vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals (41.0 ppg)

Consecutive games scoring 40 or more points: 4, vs. Phoenix Suns,June 11, 1993 to June 18, 1993
Consecutive games scoring 20 or more points: 35, June 2, 1991 to June 14, 1998
Jordan's entire Finals career
Scoring 30 or more points in all games, any championship series: 6 games, vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals

Other Records

Regular season
All-Defensive First Team selections: 9
Blocked shots by a guard, career: 893
Blocked shots by a guard, season: 131 (1987–88)

Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984–85)
Second rookie in NBA history to average 20+ points, 5+ rebounds, and 5+ assists (1984–85)
One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986–87)
First player in NBA history to record 200 steals and 100 blocked shots in a season: 236 steals, 125 blocks (1986–87)
Only player in NBA history with more than one season of 200 steals and 100 blocked shots: 259 steals, 131 blocks (1987–88)
Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987–88)
First player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year and Most Valuable Player during his career
First player in NBA history to lead the league both in scoring and steals in the same season (1987–88, 1989–90, 1992–93)

Finals
Most Valuable Player awards: 6 (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)
Scoring 20 or more points in all games, career: 35 games

 

[Yungin]

dont know who this mythical 'yall' is...

but my point is shaq carried those teams...

You nikka

 

[Street Knowledge]

Any true basketball fan would watching bean against those spurs/kings in 4th quarter dude would just destroy them

Perfect example

[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IfDCuid_U3I]YouTube - Kobe Bryant 42 points vs Spurs 2003-04 playoffs Game 4[/ame]

15 in the 4th quarter to Lead LA to tie the series 2-2

 

[R=G]

Shaq should not of been named one of the 50 greatest player at that time. He only played 3-4 years and even though it was right, i felt they took a spot away from someone who was more deserving at that point in Shaq's career

Michael Jordan, Magic, Barkley, and Robinson agreed. He was a beast in just that small timeframe. And in the end, he ends up as the most dominant basketball in history. So if you wanted to be controversial at the time, you could try to keep him off the list but it would of been an incredibly silly notion.

 

[Art Barr]

Some sidekick. Imagine Robin outshining Batman after they go their separate ways.

you must not keep up with comic continuity.
this was a poor analogy.


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

What about 92-96 tho? Where are the rings without Kobe?

Shaq had prime penny And just kept getting swept. And Compare Pau from 08-on to 00-04 Kobe,05-06 Wade or 95-96' penny is night and day

the magic did not have a coach.
the lakers never won till they had a proven hof coach.
shaq and kobe never won, titles.
unless they had proven hof coaches.


art barr