How does HL feel about Dr. Claud Anderson?

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lol, have a grossly detached understanding of intergenerational poverty.... and know nothing about how to help social economic issues breahas....

But talk like you do with random talking points:wow:
 

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Soooooo, I'm getting a slight "public education has failed" vibe... would that mean you gents are open to the idea of privatizing education?:hamster:
 

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Soooooo, I'm getting a slight "public education has failed" vibe... would that mean you gents are open to the idea of privatizing education?:hamster:

Only with the stipulation that majority black areas get teached by majority black teachers, with the curriculums being decided by themselves without influence from the state or clergy.
 

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Soooooo, I'm getting a slight "public education has failed" vibe... would that mean you gents are open to the idea of privatizing education?:hamster:


public or private it doesn't matter. what matters is the abilities and competence of the people running the school. charters schools tend to have more flexibility and creativity in their school protocols, but ultimately charter schools can be just as shytty as the public schools.

i work with dozens of public, chartered, and private schools, and the quality of the school always boils down to one main element: the quality of the staff running the site. there are great public schools and shytty ones. there are great chartered schools and there are shytty ones.

we gotta stop being so divisive on this issue and realize that it's not as simple as public vs. charter. there's a huge gray area when it comes to school quality.
 

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Soooooo, I'm getting a slight "public education has failed" vibe... would that mean you gents are open to the idea of privatizing education?:hamster:
What the above posters just said...^^^
the private and charter schools can be shytty as well. 1 BM of mine, lol, when to a private Pro black Garvey Malcolmx X dream school --- THAT shyt SUCKED!. They produced criminals and baby mammas before 18 (she had a son before i met her and I met her very young) , and overall rat people just like any hood school did.
My other BM never had a black male friend before I came along... she went to a CAC private institution where every single student was basically set up for life.

This is why economics is the most important. Regardless of what your feeding child brains, if their circumstances and community situations make most of them unable to recieve education- then they won't get it.

And along the lines of @Schmoove point... the other BM wasn't instructed by black teacher or from a black perceptive.. for nearly 10 years i had to heard detached c00n shyt before she realized how the real world was.

Every generation gets better with group economics.. single parent homes increase with poverty, young unwed births increase w poverty... Only with black economics do we make it so that both parents can develop a kid. Privatizing education at this point just insures that those in wealthier communities and those who are on the top remain at the top. Even the best black teachers aren't usually going to the hood to teach.
 

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And the other thing about business is that it's a skill just like sports or music, either you got a talent for it or you don't, I don't disagree that black need to focus on business, but to say that a specific career is what the fundamental problem is is just fishy, it's like saying we need more doctors or stem graduates, of course we need more of those, but saying a particular career field is fundamental is fishy

I think fundamental to all that is basic education

There are plenty of exceptions but overall Black people lack a basic education system, black students lack the basic skills of reading, writing and mathematics and fixing that requires overturning the current education system and changing black culture, once you do that you will automatically get more business people and more doctors or whatever a child's imagination takes them
 
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What the above posters just said...^^^
the private and charter schools can be shytty as well. 1 BM of mine, lol, when to a private Pro black Garvey Malcolmx X dream school --- THAT shyt SUCKED!. They produced criminals and baby mammas before 18 (she had a son before i met her and I met her very young) , and overall rat people just like any hood school did.
My other BM never had a black male friend before I came along... she went to a CAC private institution where every single student was basically set up for life.
Just throwing it out there...:yeshrug:
 

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in every modern society the people with the most education usually end up with the more wealth, and generational wealth can usually be traced to an educated ancestor

so the way to build generational wealth is through business, but before you get to that you have get your fundamental education right, and that is what black people have lacked for 400 years

When the people you mentioned sustained their wealth they had little to no education. They lived in a time when education was second to the ease of financial well-being through free labor, slavery. Same system that forbid us from acquiring similar financial comfort, thus not being able to secure similar opportunities as society progressed. Education being a transition into a better well being is a recent phenomena which we have been excluded from due to what I mentioned above.

Of course we need to educate ourselves and strive to become more knowledgeable about the world we live in etc, but there's little to no opportunity to do that due to not having the financial capability.
 

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When the people you mentioned sustained their wealth they had little to no education. They lived in a time when education was second to the ease of financial well-being through free labor, slavery. Same system that forbid us from acquiring similar financial comfort, thus not being able to secure similar opportunities as society progressed. Education being a transition into a better well being is a recent phenomena which we have been excluded from due to what I mentioned above.

Of course we need to educate ourselves and strive to become more knowledgeable about the world we live in etc, but there's little to no opportunity to do that due to not having the financial capability.

not really, the people that conducted the slave trade may have had little education compared to today, but relative to other people or even other europeans they were very much educated

the technology of reading and writing is one of the most powerful technologies ever invented and is what gave europeans huge advantages, even if only the captain of a ship and some accountants in london could read and write that was a huge advantage

in other words it wasnt wealth from the slave trade that educated the europeans, it was education that allowed them to conduct the slave trade and in turn accumulate wealth, the fundamentals of their wealth is being able to read and write more than other populations

imo black people need to make a cultural shift, just having a disdain for higher education that comes out on in some the posts in this thread is dangerous
 

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let's generalize black people as having a disdain for higher education
 

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What the above posters just said...^^^
the private and charter schools can be shytty as well. 1 BM of mine, lol, when to a private Pro black Garvey Malcolmx X dream school --- THAT shyt SUCKED!. They produced criminals and baby mammas before 18 (she had a son before i met her and I met her very young) , and overall rat people just like any hood school did.
My other BM never had a black male friend before I came along... she went to a CAC private institution where every single student was basically set up for life.

This is why economics is the most important. Regardless of what your feeding child brains, if their circumstances and community situations make most of them unable to recieve education- then they won't get it.

And along the lines of @Schmoove point... the other BM wasn't instructed by black teacher or from a black perceptive.. for nearly 10 years i had to heard detached c00n shyt before she realized how the real world was.

Every generation gets better with group economics.. single parent homes increase with poverty, young unwed births increase w poverty... Only with black economics do we make it so that both parents can develop a kid. Privatizing education at this point just insures that those in wealthier communities and those who are on the top remain at the top. Even the best black teachers aren't usually going to the hood to teach.

the point of vouchers and charters isnt that they are always better, its that they are under more pressure to perform because the parents have a choice of removing their kids at any time, if you have a school that suks right now there is nothing anybody can do about because no one will be held responsible for it, everybody will get their paycheck regardless of how the school is doing

if you have charters and vouchers and school choice, than the choice is in the parents hands, if they dont like the school then they should change schools, if they dont like the schools in the hood around the block, then dont send your kids to the school around the block, its that simple
 
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let's generalize black people as having a disdain for higher education

yeah i will, ive always said that, generally speaking black people have an anti academic culture and we need to change that

and in case you didnt notice, claude anderson spends hours generalizing black people and critiquing our culture, do you have a problem with that also?
 

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yeah i will, ive always said that, generally speaking black people have an anti academic culture and we need to change that

and in case you didnt notice, claude anderson spends hours generalizing black people and critiquing our culture, do you have a problem with that also?
No black people don't... not any more so than anyone else. Take your average middle class black kid, they aren't anti academic.

the only culture that needs to be fixed is materialism, and not being unified financially.
 

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No black people don't... not any more so than anyone else. Take your average middle class black kid, they aren't anti academic.

the only culture that needs to be fixed is materialism, and not being unified financially.

yeah they do, in fact its been documented that the average middle class black kid has atrocious academic performance and its more evidence of the anti academic aspect of black culture and that its not just money that is effecting black students

but the real question is, do you approve of claud anderson generalizing black people and criticizing black culture?
 

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yeah they do, in fact its been documented that the average middle class black kid has atrocious academic performance and its more evidence the anti academic aspect of black culture and that its not just money that is effecting black students
black middle class is more connected to black poor class ........than any other group is connected to the poor. . And are affected by more of the same shyt and mentality as the poorer blacks.
 
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