How does HL feel about Dr. Claud Anderson?

[theworldismine13]

Anderson is not talking about Small Business at all. He's talking about creating wealth. Real wealth as in cornering the market on an area that we are the major producers of a said product. He realizes that the start must be small & community focused but that is not his end all be all breh.

Like his Waterland Fisheries Factory. Dude is trying to be the main source of Gourmet Organic, clean, bred fish. I can't find the link/vid now but dude was speaking about trying to take the company Public as well.

and that's all good, i support that 100%,

but i was referring to Sony, Apple, type of companies, and also the manufacturing growth of China, Taiwan and South Korea, the specialized skills required to create those companies or manufacturing power houses can only be had through higher education

im not sure where people got the idea that i was opposing anderson, im just adding on, i agree that business is important and fundamental, anybody that knows my posting record knows i say that black people need to double down on capitalism so there is no reason for my to be going against what anderson was saying

im just adding on that K-12 education is even more fundamental than business and that in fact if we eliminate public schools and switch to vouchers and charters that itself is huge business opportunity for black people

 

[MostReal]

yea, he's trying to create his own lane in the business area with this. I hope it blows up too

 

[theworldismine13]

this is slightly off topic, but yall remember in the UCLA thread where i was lambasted for saying that black people dont focus on higher education as much as other ethnic groups.........but look at some of the comments in this thread.....yeah just saying.....good times

 

[Captain Crunch]

Either way, Claud Anderson is the truth. He speaks nothing but plain English on how and why the black community is in its current positon, which is no better than right after slavery and worse than what we experienced during segregation. With no economic base, your community is at the mercy of others who do have an economic base.

Dr. Anderson's call to action can be described in the following: If whites and asians one day decided to NOT service black communities with food, clothing, gas, utilities and other any other vital needs, WHAT BLACK BUSINESSES WOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP THE BLACK COMMUNITY RUNNING WITHOUT A HITCH ON A LOCAL/REGIONAL/NATIONAL SCALE? BEYOND THAT, WHAT MEDIA OUTLETS WOULD WE BE ABLE TO USE TO LET THE OUTSIDE WORLD KNOW OF THIS ACTION BEING TAKE AGAINST US?

I'll wait for an answer that I'll never get. Oh, but we'd have plenty of music, soul food and tax preparation places to keep us company as we slowly die off.

But beyond just talking and typing, this man has a black think tank. The only think tank devoted exclusively to the issues affecting the black community, and he needs our support-emotional AND financial. We spend money on Jordans, Gucci belt buckles, impressing double-d#ck clutching ratchets and showing out to broke nikkas.

Can we take some of that bread and give to a think tank devoted to our community? If so, here's the link to the organization: http://harvestinstitute.org/

Peace

Just donated $20.

 

[J-Nice]

Either way, Claud Anderson is the truth. He speaks nothing but plain English on how and why the black community is in its current positon, which is no better than right after slavery and worse than what we experienced during segregation. With no economic base, your community is at the mercy of others who do have an economic base.

Dr. Anderson's call to action can be described in the following: If whites and asians one day decided to NOT service black communities with food, clothing, gas, utilities and other any other vital needs, WHAT BLACK BUSINESSES WOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP THE BLACK COMMUNITY RUNNING WITHOUT A HITCH ON A LOCAL/REGIONAL/NATIONAL SCALE? BEYOND THAT, WHAT MEDIA OUTLETS WOULD WE BE ABLE TO USE TO LET THE OUTSIDE WORLD KNOW OF THIS ACTION BEING TAKE AGAINST US?

I'll wait for an answer that I'll never get. Oh, but we'd have plenty of music, soul food and tax preparation places to keep us company as we slowly die off.

But beyond just talking and typing, this man has a black think tank. The only think tank devoted exclusively to the issues affecting the black community, and he needs our support-emotional AND financial. We spend money on Jordans, Gucci belt buckles, impressing double-d#ck clutching ratchets and showing out to broke nikkas.

Can we take some of that bread and give to a think tank devoted to our community? If so, here's the link to the organization: http://harvestinstitute.org/

Peace

Just gave as well.

 

[Crakface]

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/02/graduation-rates-by-state-and-race/?_r=0

and these are just graduation rates, it doesn't take into account the actual skill level of the graduates and it doesnt show majority black cities and areas where these stats are a lot worse

and another issue is that as a black business if black people are your customers and they themselves have low skills that means they make less money and therefore black business makes less money

but to be clear im very much pro capitalism, so obviously im 1000 percent behind more black business, but as far as fundamental problems go K-12 education is the fundamental issue, that was where i departed from anderson, i wasnt saying his points about establishing business are wrong its just not fundemantal, if i didnt think business was important i wouldn't be pro capitalism

im like one of the most pro capitalist posters, why would anybody think they have to convince me about the important of black business? ive been saying the key to black people rising up is increasing trade between the US caribbean and africa, to do so requires the establishment of business

Another unspoken element here is foreign backing. Most people that come to this nation have a foreign nation backing their communities in some way. My wife points out shopping centers in the asian hood that are actually Owned by people in china. A big part of immigration into the united states is investment. Its a quick way to get citizenship so if you drop say 500k on a business it can expedite the process of citizenship. Alot of the people that work and sustain these businesses get loans from their local churchs which are foreign backed or just recieve money from back home. Despite little formal education, they know how to count money and run a business which is something you arent going to learn in high school. shyt college doesnt really prepare you for operating a business. Not to say education isnt important but there are a lot of foreign so called dummies in the US that are Caking because they know the fundamentals of business.

 

[theworldismine13]

Another unspoken element here is foreign backing. Most people that come to this nation have a foreign nation backing their communities in some way. My wife points out shopping centers in the asian hood that are actually Owned by people in china. A big part of immigration into the united states is investment. Its a quick way to get citizenship so if you drop say 500k on a business it can expedite the process of citizenship. Alot of the people that work and sustain these businesses get loans from their local churchs which are foreign backed or just recieve money from back home. Despite little formal education, they know how to count money and run a business which is something you arent going to learn in high school. shyt college doesnt really prepare you for operating a business. Not to say education isnt important but there are a lot of foreign so called dummies in the US that are Caking because they know the fundamentals of business.

i think that's just an interesting thing to take note of, i dont think it means anything

and i think you conflating things a bunch of different things and using anecdotes

there is a program for investors but that is a very sophisticated program that has nothing to do with anything going on in the hood and it sure as hell isnt going to any uneducated people http://www.uscis.gov/working-united...fifth-preference-eb-5/eb-5-immigrant-investor

im pro-capitalism, ive said that many times, in my many arguments in HL ive said milton friedman as one of the people i admire, milton friedman is of the biggest capitalists that ever lived, i just bring that up to ask why do people think they have to convince a pro capitalist about the importance of business??? the main reason why i started embracing milton friedman is because i think black people need to embrace business and entrepreneurialism

i believe capitalism is the key to black success so obviously I co-sign anderson, but with the caveat that k-12 is more fundamental than business, im not saying business IS NOT fundamental, im saying that k-12 is MORE fundamental, capish?

what i said is that business is a skill, like sports or music, i didn't say you learn business in high school or college, but learning how to read and write and do math multiplies and is the basic foundation for whatever you do, whether its a job, sports, music, business or university, k-12 education is fundamental to all those things

of course you can open a business without knowing how to read, just like you can be a pro baller and not know how to read......we all know how that turns out

 

[Crakface]

i think that's just an interesting thing to take note of, i dont think it means anything

and i think you conflating things a bunch of different things and using anecdotes

there is a program for investors but that is a very sophisticated program that has nothing to do with anything going on in the hood and it sure as hell isnt going to any uneducated people http://www.uscis.gov/working-united...fifth-preference-eb-5/eb-5-immigrant-investor

im pro-capitalism, ive said that many times, in my many arguments in HL ive said milton friedman as one of the people i admire, milton friedman is the the biggest capitalists that ever lived, i just bring that up to ask why do people think they have to convince a pro capitalist about the importance of business??? the main reason why i started embracing milton friedman is because i think black people need to embrace business and entrepreneurialism

i believe capitalism is the key to black success so obviously I co-sign anderson, but with the caveat that k-12 is more fundamental than business, im not saying business IS NOT fundamental, im saying that k-12 is MORE fundamental, capish?

what i said is that business is a skill, like sports or music, i didn't say you learn business in high school or college, but learning how to read and write and do math multiplies and is the basic foundation for whatever you do, whether its a job, sports, music, business or university, k-12 education is fundamental to all those things

of course you can open a business without knowing how to read, just like you can be a pro baller and not know how to read......we all know how that turns out

I see one more question.

Have a people with no allies ever come up lawfully and do you think that not having allies practically requires a people to have a strong presence in organized crime or commerce under the radar of the system.

 

[theworldismine13]

I see one more question.

Have a people with no allies ever come up lawfully and do you think that not having allies practically requires a people to have a strong presence in organized crime or commerce under the radar of the system.

yeah, people have come up without allies, the're called jews

commerce is commerce, capitalism is not a moral standard, that is a personal choice as to what kind of commerce you want to engage in

but again the fundamentals are education, the educated criminal will generally come out ahead of the uneducated criminal, again, see jews for examples of that

 

[DEAD7]

His suggestions don't seem very practical or reasonable to me... but it could just be that they are poorly laid out.

 

[Crakface]

yeah, people have come up without allies, the're called jews

commerce is commerce, capitalism is not a moral standard, that is a personal choice as to what kind of commerce you want to engage in

but again the fundamentals are education, the educated criminal will generally come out ahead of the uneducated criminal, again, see jews for examples of that

Jews are heavily involved in organized crime though. Thats how they got that startup money.

 

[Crakface]

His suggestions don't seem very practical or reasonable to me... but it could just be that they are poorly laid out.

Whos suggestions are more practical, more reasonable and better laid out in your opinion.

 

[DEAD7]

Whos suggestions are more practical, more reasonable and better laid out in your opinion.

Thomas Sowell's and Walter Williams both have more pragmatic approaches IMHO, but no approach is really well laid out... not that I have heard anyway. I personally think the downplaying of Hip-Hop and exactly what it is/does is holding a lot of would be black leaders back.
Our social issues stand in the way of conquering the economic issues...

 

[J-Nice]

Eh, at the moment, there is no agenda or plan laid out by any faction or person. They are just ideas that no one has largely put into action. Until they are put into action on a massive scale where we can see tangible results, then everything else is just conjecture and hyperbole.

 

[theworldismine13]

Jews are heavily involved in organized crime though. Thats how they got that startup money.

i dont see what the significance is of the jews being heavily involved in organized crime, like i said capitalism is not a moral code,

but what i am saying is that the educated people will almost ways win in the end, simply because education allows a more sophisticated level of organization and more effective communication between individuals and a higher level of overall skills

so lets compares other immigrants that were heavily involved in organized crime, like the italians, who where more illiterate (if i recall correctly the Godfather was illiterate for example) and less educated then jews, who advanced further? and why? i would say the jews because the jewish gangster were more educated and when it came time to transition to the normal business world it was a smooth transition

if people want to engage in organized crime that is a personal choice, but if you do want to engage in organized crime then having a k-12 education is important if you want to follow the jewish example

i personally wouldnt recommend it but if you feel organized crime is the way to go then i would advise you to follow the jewish gangster example of focusing on k-12 and higher education and not the italian example