How Do You Respond To c00ns Who Say, ‘Africans Sold Their Own People Into Slavery’?

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Not holding Africans to any higher moral standards. Your narrative of the slave trade makes no sense.

Is Shaka Zulu a c00n?

He waged war mainly against other black men.

We worship Shaka and he was known for putting black men to the sword.

Africa was different back then....thats my point.

Cultural Supremacy was the name of the game.
 

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Another thing i'd like to add.

Africans during the time were willing to fight other Africans AND fight europeans.

The Dahomey went to war against France for years. :bustback:

Unlike you coward ass nikkas who won't even slap a white man - our ancestors would have cut a european's head off and kept it as a trophy.

So watch your fukkin mouth before u disrespect our ancestors.

bytch nikkas.
 

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Slavery in Africa was nothing like European chattel slavery.

In fact, I remember learning somewhere a captive in some cultures of Africa could eventually work their way to become part of the tribe.

This point was always intellectually dishonest :francis:
 

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I'm saying there is a CONTEXT to the situation.

They weren't fighting against their "african brothers"

They were fighting against their enemies who were extorting them, robbing them, and subjugating their women and children.

You can't preach Pan-Africanism to an African in the 17th century.

I hear you. But the whole argument white people have nowadays about slavery is "that's just the way the world was back then. Even Africans did it to each other"

The excuses you guys are using just sounds like the same ones a cac will say."Cultural Differences", "Different Regions". The world was built by slaves. From the Roman Coliseum, Egyptian Pyramids to the White House. And Every group of people that participated in it are morally pieces of shyt.
 

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:stopitslime:First off, stop homogenizing an entire continent. Africans didn’t sell their own people into slavery. They sold their enemies into slavery.

We have a fukked up way of looking at Africans and diminishing black peoples’ culture by lumping them all together in a black on black crime deflection argument.
Meanwhile, we overlook Hundred Year wars in white cultures. British vs Irish, Scottish. Viking Wars…Japanese vs Chinese…

Why do we assume everybody with dark skin is just one cultural group?

It differed depending on the civilization you speaking about on the continent.

Secondly, I inquire why we are so eager to help whites avoid accountability for their evils? Why are we deflecting to other cultures anyway? The Atlantic slave trade is unique in the way they systematically stripped African Americans of their human rights and set up laws to CONTINUE TO DO SO UNTIL TODAY.

I don’t wanna hear shyt else in these conversations. And yes I have had these conversations with people to their faces and will continue to do so.
 

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Not everyone was kidnapped you know that right? a person being captured by kidnapping didn’t change the fact that some were prisoners to war they lost and Vice versa. People fell to the TAST in different ways, you can’t use a one size fits all shoe and say they all succumb like that. That’s being very dishonest
So slavery was okay, how am I being dishonest when you trying to paint the picture like it’s okay to be enslaved because they was at war, everybody wasn’t at war , everybody wasnt traders but I bet most of the people who were on them boats were kidnapped unless you can prove who them everybody were exactly
 

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First off, the original slave traders were slave RAIDERS who went around kidnapping people. all these Great Replacement Blacks (Israelites, ADOS,Kemetics etc) seem to forget that.

The slave TRADE of POW’s came about as a result of White people forcing these kingdoms on the flank to partake. Just like Gaspar Yanga and many other enslaved Africans did in the Americas.
This isn't true. After several West/Central African Empires fell, most of the region was destabilized. Africans of one group sought power by battling other African groups. These groups preyed on one another. "White" traders didn't 'force' anyone into the fray. They didn't have to. It preceded their arrival by a few decades and they took advantage of an already available resource due to internal chaos.

The 'raiders' were Africans who already knew the areas while Europeans stayed on the shore waiting for 'deliveries' in relative safety.​
 

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No one is arguing that because it's a stupid argument.

Black Americans don't control America.​
You were just saying that our taxes and limited resources go to help everyone else and that's the reason Pan Africanism is a failure.

Where is Pan Africanism siphoning said taxes and limited resources? Whatever, whereever it is, it can't be any close to comparable to Ukraine or Israel. But again, you said it yourself: "Black Americans don't control America" -- So you mean to tell me this 'pAn AfRiCaN pRopAgAnDa' supercedes that fact and even tricks the government into sending our taxes elsewhere?! :mindblown:

:comeon:
 

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I hear you. But the whole argument white people have nowadays about slavery is "that's just the way the world was back then. Even Africans did it to each other"

The excuses you guys are using just sounds like the same ones a cac will say."Cultural Differences", "Different Regions". The world was built by slaves. From the Roman Coliseum, Egyptian Pyramids to the White House. And Every group of people that participated in it are morally pieces of shyt.
1. White people have been at each other’s neck but look at how they treat WW2 and how some of neonazism is on the rise. That should tell you the kinda people some of them are

2. Have you done your own search on various African cultures and history, you’re saying and speaking in a fraternal tone which shows you’re naïveté. African this African that Instead of xx from such nation or from the southern kingdom. You have countries as far apart as Morocco and Tanzania what u makes you think they even remotely have any similarities Apart from being an African country
So slavery was okay, how am I being dishonest when you trying to paint the picture like it’s okay to be enslaved because they was at war, everybody wasn’t at war , everybody wasnt traders but I bet most of the people who were on them boats were kidnapped unless you can prove who them everybody were exactly
when did I say that it was okay. Also let’s talk about the kidnappers then, let’s also talk about how they got put onto the same boat with the people they kidnapped that’s another fact you people like to ignore. Europeans love to spin the block an would abduct those same raiders they employed it was actually quite common. 2 birds 1 stone. A lot of people like to ignore this fact too. And yes you actually can a lot of ethnicities documented their war fare details it’s just not in English
 

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:stopitslime:First off, stop homogenizing an entire continent. Africans didn’t sell their own people into slavery. They sold their enemies into slavery.

We have a fukked up way of looking at Africans and diminishing black peoples’ culture by lumping them all together in a black on black crime deflection argument.
Meanwhile, we overlook Hundred Year wars in white cultures. British vs Irish, Scottish. Viking Wars…Japanese vs Chinese…

Why do we assume everybody with dark skin is just one cultural group?

It differed depending on the civilization you speaking about on the continent.

Secondly, I inquire why we are so eager to help whites avoid accountability for their evils? Why are we deflecting to other cultures anyway? The Atlantic slave trade is unique in the way they systematically stripped African Americans of their human rights and set up laws to CONTINUE TO DO SO UNTIL TODAY.

I don’t wanna hear shyt else in these conversations. And yes I have had these conversations with people to their faces and will continue to do so.
I don’t care what tribe you supposed to be apart of slavery is slavery, I don’t even know why you need to bring up anybody else, yes they cultures will be diminished cause they participated in slavery for their own gain, if you participated in enslavement your an evil person Even if the slaves were innocent or your enemies(y’all need to prove that most people enslaved were actively at war with another tribe),
 

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1. White people have been at each other’s neck but look at how they treat WW2 and how some of neonazism is on the rise. That should tell you the kinda people some of them are

2. Have you done your own search on various African cultures and history, you’re saying and speaking in a fraternal tone which shows you’re naïveté. African this African that Instead of xx from such nation or from the southern kingdom. You have countries as far apart as Morocco and Tanzania what u makes you think they even remotely have any similarities Apart from being an African country

when did I say that it was okay. Also let’s talk about the kidnappers then, let’s also talk about how they got put onto the same boat with the people they kidnapped that’s another fact you people like to ignore. Europeans love to spin the block an would abduct those same raiders they employed it was actually quite common. 2 birds 1 stone. A lot of people like to ignore this fact too
Fact of the matter is them people participated in slavery and y’all trying to come up with reasons why people shouldn’t acknowledge it
Whole time they just as bad as the white people who tortured raped and killed slaves
 
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