How did DC end up Larry Holmes in pop culture while Marvel ended up so popular? (no troll post)

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It really only became like this in the past 10 years and that's been because of Marvel's movies. From the 60's to probably the late 90's they were pretty even when it came to comics. DC up until recently has pretty much had mainstream culture on lock since probably the 60's. They had the 60's live action Batman show and the 60's Filmation DC animated shorts, Superfriends in the 70's and the Wonder Woman tv show, the Reeves Superman movies in the late 70's and 80's, and the Batman movies in the 90's and the animated series and the short lived Flash series. You've had multiple generations of people who've never read a DC comic but know about DC characters because of their films and tv shows. Marvel had a lot of misses with their movies until Blade in 1998 but did have success on tv with Hulk in the 70s and X-Men and Spider-Man in the 90's but nowhere close to DC.

Marvel also in the past few years has really started to reach out more to non white comic book fanbase such as Black people and other non white people and the gay community. They've really been pushing Black Panther, Miles Morales, Sam Wilson Captain America, etc hard and it's working since you have a lot of black people showing them love. All the hip hop variant covers has also helped a lot. I remember 20 years ago Black Panther didn't get the kind of love he's getting now, Sam Wilson was considered just Cap's sidekick, etc. Marvel has had Muslims in prominent positions such as Dust in X-Men and the current Ms. Marvel. Gays are getting bigger representation in comics with Northstar becoming even more prominent in stories and having him get married, turning Iceman gay, one of those Young Avengers guys being gay, and the way they've kinda of kinda of shifted the X-Men franchise from a metaphor of the black struggle for civil and human rights to gay rights.
 

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DC hasn't almost consistently been putting out bad movies since the schumaker Batman films too when you think about it.
They haven't just relied on Batman, Batman specifically Nolan Batman has been where the success was at.
Constantine
Jonah Hex
Watchmen
Green Lantern
Superman
Catwoman

It was a very wide range of characters getting movies for the last decade. They just happened to be really bad
 

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Dc is dominating when it comes to the tv shows tho.

Animated cartoons series/movies as well.

They only lacking in live action movies and even then they still got not only the best superhero film/trilogy, but one of the goat films with the dark knight.




Marvel stans doing too much. Delusions of grandeur.:mjlol:

Dominating? Arrow just shyt itself according to the newspapers. And Supergirl had to downgrade networks.
You also forgot one medium actual comic books. Marvel runs that shyt.

Exactly? Dominating exactly what as far as TV shows?

Only Flash is getting universal love, cats feel like Arrow fell off 2 seasons ago, most hate Supergirl, most don't take Legends seriousl, and Gotham is kind of an after thought.

Marvel got Agents (that after season one got insanely better), Daredevil, Jessica, and Luke Cage coming.

Each that are either as good as Flash or much better.

Cartoons..... Eh..... That's kind of a interesting race..... Because to my knowledge..... Marvel currently airing got Spider-Man, Hulk, Avengers, and Guardians. Not sure if any DC cartoons are currently airing so that is a Win for Marvel by default

Cartoon movies, yea..... DC got the edge.

Videogames is probably the only thing DC really is hands down winning in only off the strength of the Arkham series
 

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Exactly? Dominating exactly what as far as TV shows?

Only Flash is getting universal love, cats feel like Arrow fell off 2 seasons ago, most hate Supergirl, most don't take Legends seriousl, and Gotham is kind of an after thought.

Marvel got Agents (that after season one got insanely better), Daredevil, Jessica, and Luke Cage coming.

Each that are either as good as Flash or much better.

Cartoons..... Eh..... That's kind of a interesting race..... Because to my knowledge..... Marvel currently airing got Spider-Man, Hulk, Avengers, and Guardians. Not sure if any DC cartoons are currently airing so that is a Win for Marvel by default

Cartoon movies, yea..... DC got the edge.

Videogames is probably the only thing DC really is hands down winning in only off the strength of the Arkham series
Those cartoons are straight garbage. They got rid of Spectacular Spider-Man and Earth's Mightiest Heroes for that :scust:
 

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DC hasn't almost consistently been putting out bad movies since the schumaker Batman films too when you think about it.
They haven't just relied on Batman, Batman specifically Nolan Batman has been where the success was at.
Constantine
Jonah Hex
Watchmen
Green Lantern
Superman
Catwoman

It was a very wide range of characters getting movies for the last decade. They just happened to be really bad

You are right about that..

I woulda be down for a Constantine sequel
Went to the theater with my brehs to see Jonah Hex. Still joke about that shyt today :wow:
Watchmen was decent...but not memorable
Green Lantern was a fukk up . Got Ryan looking like Ben Stiller :skip:
Superman Returns was garbage.. I liked Routh more then Cavil tho


we really including catwoman in this :dahell:
 

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Those cartoons are straight garbage. They got rid of Spectacular Spider-Man and Earth's Mightiest Heroes for that :scust:


I never said they were great..... Though they are better than that funny style teen Titan jawn.

At the end of the day they active!

Think of it as a boring Boxing or MMA fight where cats are just out pointing someone, not even going for the KO while the other guy is doing absolutely nothing

:yeshrug:
 

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I never said they were great..... Though they are better than that funny style teen Titan jawn.

At the end of the day they active!

Think of it as a boring Boxing or MMA fight where cats are just out pointing someone, not even going for the KO while the other guy is doing absolutely nothing

:yeshrug:
:mjlol:
 
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Dominating? Arrow just shyt itself according to the newspapers. And Supergirl had to downgrade networks.
You also forgot one medium actual comic books. Marvel runs that shyt.

Arrow, supergirl, gotham city, flash>>>>
Agents of shield :martin:

Comic books:mjlol:

Pop culture is mainly about the casual audience. DC is ahead of marvel in that regard.:manny:
 

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Arrow, supergirl, gotham city, flash>>>>
Agents of shield :martin:

Comic books:mjlol:

Pop culture is mainly about the casual audience. DC is ahead of marvel in that regard.:manny:
Laugh at the source material brehs.
And uh Civil War just did a billy. What other pop culture medium could DC be beating those numbers in? None.
 
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Exactly? Dominating exactly what as far as TV shows?

Only Flash is getting universal love, cats feel like Arrow fell off 2 seasons ago, most hate Supergirl, most don't take Legends seriousl, and Gotham is kind of an after thought.

Marvel got Agents (that after season one got insanely better), Daredevil, Jessica, and Luke Cage coming.

Each that are either as good as Flash or much better.

Cartoons..... Eh..... That's kind of a interesting race..... Because to my knowledge..... Marvel currently airing got Spider-Man, Hulk, Avengers, and Guardians. Not sure if any DC cartoons are currently airing so that is a Win for Marvel by default

Cartoon movies, yea..... DC got the edge.

Videogames is probably the only thing DC really is hands down winning in only off the strength of the Arkham series

DC has been ahead of Marvel since the 90s when it comes to pop culture.

Batman animated series(the goat superhero cartoon)
Batman beyond
Static shock
Teen titans
Justice league
The batman
Batman brave and the bold
Beware the batman
Young justice

Smallville
Green arrow
Flash
Gotham city
Supergirl

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Laugh at the source material brehs.
And uh Civil War just did a billy. What other pop culture medium could DC be beating those numbers in? None.

The dark knight is more memorable than any movie marvel has in its arsenal.

Literally set the standard for what a classic superhero movie is supposed to look like.:youngsabo:
 
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