How did a powerful black empowerment speech turn into a diss towards black men

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The craving for attention strikes again.

...Saying something contrarian will always get you attention these days. So that's why these deprived people do.

Ignore them and I'll bet they shut up.

Truth and these same clowns who are using this speech as a weapon against black men ain't gonna lift a finger to help out Mr. Willaims if he get blackballed out of Hollywood.
 

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“There’s simply no movement, there’s not even a semblance of a movement without black women and black members of the LGBT community,”Williams said. “We as men, in particular black men, are constantly supported, nurtured, forgiven, apologized for, led, followed and coddled by black women and they get very little in return.”
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I wonder how many people are going to address this specifically? Because this is another example of how "Black Men" are supposedly the problem with the black community that these BLM and twitter SJWs try to spit all the time.
 

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:dahell:Mothafukka, you quoted me. I like to extend the courtesy of responding instead of ignoring posters. NOW I will ignore posts in this thread, but I wanted to
show that even if I didn't care about the topic anymore, that I wasn't a ignorant pos that would actively ignore folks. Cut it out.
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I wonder how many people are going to address this specifically? Because this is another example of how "Black Men" are supposedly the problem with the black community that these BLM and twitter SJWs try to spit all the time.
I honestly think that Black women need to boycott certain men and their behavorial problems. We need to take a hard line at unacceptable behavior and do some serious retraining. There is no reason for us not to put them and their bullshyt on blast with all the easy methods of communication and broadcast we have at our disposal. We are our own best and loyal allies and need to focus all the energy and time we've had on others to ourselves and our advancement. If we do better and demand better, they will have no other choice but to stepped up on get left in the dust (Shaka when the walls fell).


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I think it came from the sense of relief that FINALLY a Black male with a platform, in no uncertain terms, said what many of his peers refuse to say.

Women are comparing what Jesse Williams did, to what Black male celebs won't do.

Cherishing Black women, in a way that isn't sexual or exploitative, and offering a promise to do better.

It's just not a regular thing, and Black women are disgusted by that fact.
Why do black women need to be cherished? I love them but there need to be an eradication of this entitlement and expectation of ass kissing.

BW want celebrities to worship them because they value men with money and a regular nucca appreciating them doesn't benefit their ego. No other race has their men kissing their women's ass but that's what bw expect.
 

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I wonder how many people are going to address this specifically? Because this is another example of how "Black Men" are supposedly the problem with the black community that these BLM and twitter SJWs try to spit all the time.

I hear you and agree to an extent. I will even say that I am biasd and will give Mr. Willaims to benefit of the doubt because he has put in the work. The same why I will give Farrakhan or Eric Dyson or Claude Anderson or Boyce Watkins a pass.

Now in saying that I totally understand and agree that often times we as black men are used as the scape goat on all things bad. Which is an absolute issue because in the end it is divide and conquer.

Especially when you look at all the civil rights movements and how it took everyone to get it accomplished. We are a small group of folks and it takes everyone of us to fight against oppression.

Let me also add that even white groups would not be here without the effort of women. I mean look at the anti war movement. Look at occupy wall street, look at the tea party.

shyt look at world war 2 for example and how white women who almost never worked had to work in factories because of the war.

All hands on deck are always needed to fight a powerful enemy.

Last it has always been funny to me when these debates come along.....how middle class and upper class black women and men always escape with out getting called out. Same with older blacks.

Poor, young and uneducated black women and men are always at the front lines of a social movement for black people. Yet almost never reap the benefits until they are old. Often times they are assassinated, thrown in jail or forced to live in poverty all their lives because they are blackballed. Yet educated, older, professional or well to do blacks reap all the benefits of these young folks struggles.
 

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Lets be real man. These folks full of shyt. Jesse Williams is a activist and he speaks out on issues.

But there are other activist and folks in the media that speak out on issues that sistas have and give sistas applause.

The problem these folks have is it ain't the dudes who they want to give out the props to sistas. Even this past year Chris Rock has called out Hollywood twice on how sistas are treated. But you know Chris won't get the props cause he ain't considered handsome, he cheated on his wife and he filed for a divorce from his wife. So whatever comes out his mouth defending sistas don't count. Even though he got a black daughter, momma and female relatives.

Let's look at Roland Martin who goes to bat for sistas all the time. From bringing up issues every week about sistas. To giving sistas opportunities to host his show and having them on his show everyday.

But that is old bald headed, fat, chubby Roland Martin so that don't count.

I can go on and on from Eric Dyson to Etan Thomas who havs showed respect for sistas and have called out brothas to carry their portion of the weight for sistas.

But see these ain't the men that these sick folks want to a knowledge.

shyt reminds me how some folks will scream from the top of their lungs how they are about black love. Then when some black folks get together that they don't approve of. All that black love shyt gets thrown out the window....cough cough Wilson and Ciara or Usher and Tomeka (sp?).
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I honestly think that Black women need to boycott certain men and their behavorial problems. We need to take a hard line at unacceptable behavior and do some serious retraining. There is no reason for us not to put them and their bullshyt on blast with all the easy methods of communication and broadcast we have at our disposal. We are our own best and loyal allies and need to focus all the energy and time we've had on others to ourselves and our advancement. If we do better and demand better, they will have no other choice but to stepped up on get left in the dust (Shaka when the walls fell).


BTW...I am Hugh.
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It sounds like you are suggesting putting "people on code/code of conduct" ala Tariq Nasheed.

ETA: I noticed once you posted that Jessie Williams quote throwing Black men under the bus this thread went from 100 to 0 real quick:russ:
 

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Only read the 1st and last sentence and that's all that needs to be said.

It's really sad

This thing called the internet and social media is probably the worst thing that could happen to black people
its also the best thing that could happen to black people. for every negative there is a positive.
 

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I reblogged the gif of him saying respect black women with no context whatsoever ...only to see it reblogged again but this time reminding me that black men ain't sh!t
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What did we do this time...jeez
the thing I hate the most about that is that black men that appreciate and respect black women get thrown under the bus as if we were the ones perpetuating that behavior as well.

some of them dont like us cause they hate being black and project their frustrations on us.
 

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Another thing when black women in this mindstate say that "black men don't protect them"....i want to ask..."protect them from what?"

do you think going into the arms of our oppressors is going to achieve this protection? cause thats what you need protection from at this point.
 
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