How Come Black Men Fail At Fatherhood and Marriage?

[Sonic Boom of the South]

It still needs to be talked about, because this way of life is starting to effect other races in America also, which means it won't be good for men, and the women who need men to be healthy individuals. It is not good to be alone, in unhealthy relationships, or going from relationship to relationship, especially when kids are in the picture.

1st of all

all races are failing at marriage

the divorce rate in America is near 70%
black people only make up 13% of this country so Cacs fail more than anyone

2nd Whites make up for the larger number of single parents in this country


stop letting Cac media feed you self hatred


not one person even attempted to check the cac who made this

this site is filled with c00ns

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Thats not entirely true. The slave masters would purposely sell off mothers and fathers leaving broken homes and not giving 2 fukks about it.

Exactly. So many people subscribe to this incorect assertion. In realty black people in America have NEVER been able to cultivate a strong family structure. A combination of laws, poverty, lack of opportunity, drugs, amongst other things has made it so black families have always been torn apart.

 

[bouncy]

Thats not entirely true. The slave masters would purposely sell off mothers and fathers leaving broken homes and not giving 2 fukks about it.

Yeah, but after slavery, single parent households was not the norm, it was the exception. Especially when you go to areas that weren't high in poverty. You were looked down upon if you had a kid without being married. In the 60's and 70's it became ok, and that is because of the government, and companies giving women an easier time then they previously had if a man weren't in the house. Being that blacks were in poverty a lot more then whites, it hit them first, and we are seeing the effects of this starting in the 80's until now.

Someone mentioned Daniel Patrick Moynihan, and he saw this back in the 1960's. Here is a quote form the wikipedia page on his article:

The Negro Family: The Case For National Action - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"At the time of writing this report, Moynihan was employed at the U.S. Department of Labor. While analyzing various statistics concerning black poverty he noticed something unusual[2]:

Instead of rates of black male unemployment and welfare enrollment running parallel as they always had, in 1962 they started to diverge in a way that would come to be called “Moynihan’s scissors.”[3]

When Moynihan wrote, in 1965, on the coming destruction of the black family, the out-of-wedlock birthrate was 25 percent among blacks."


Black matriarchy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In 1940, the illegitimacy rate for Black children was 19%.[8] A study of 1880 family structure in Philadelphia shows that three-quarters of black families were nuclear families, composed of two parents and children.[9] In New York City in 1925, 85 percent of kin-related black households had two parents."

 

[bouncy]

Exactly. So many people subscribe to this incorect assertion. In realty black people in America have NEVER been able to cultivate a strong family structure. A combination of laws, poverty, lack of opportunity, drugs, amongst other things has made it so black families have always been torn apart.

WRONG. Poor black families with issues, never was able to cultivate family structure. For most black people, it was all about family.

 

[Chris.B]

Exactly. So many people subscribe to this incorect assertion. In realty black people in America have NEVER been able to cultivate a strong family structure. A combination of laws, poverty, lack of opportunity, drugs, amongst other things has made it so black families have always been torn apart.

you want to tell me the black family has always had over 70% of out of wedlock births?

come on slim I know you are better than this.

We are reaping the "benefits" of single motherhood in our very eyes.
And "benefits" is not used in positive terms here....

 

[Ain't That Something]

Vicious cycle from slavery?

You always had huge numbers of fathers in the home back in the day, the single mother phenomenon started during the late '60's, and 70's, when the government made it cool to not have a man in the house in order to receive benefits. This made it possible for women to do what they wanted, without a man not agreeing with them, and having a say with how money is distributed in the house. This then led to children having a warp sense of how the world is, and for men this wasn't good because they didn't either get the nurturing they need to make it in this world or they were spoiled to the point that they didn't learn how money works, and what routes were needed to make it without doing illegal things to get quick money.

Women were taught the same things, but more were taught to get a job to control their household, and NOT need a man. This was easy to do since women fulfilled two quotas. They were women, and they were black. Having a degree made it even easier since more jobs started leaning towards service type jobs, and not physical labor or jobs that required some type of skill.

The only way things will change is when men figure out the world, and how the jobs their mothers told them to get, was not made for them, but for the women, to easily get hired. The men need to do skillful jobs to where there is a better chance of them being hired. They also need to deal with the issues that come from being in a single mother household, but I doubt this will be dealt with because in the black community, the mother is like GOD, and can do know wrong. Everything is the fathers fault. Until we can be honest with how our mothers issues effect us, nothing will change.

One thing I always give white people is they are truthful when talking about how their parents raised them, both the father AND the mother. This allows them to be able to grow into healthy individuals that can make smart moves in this world, and grow to live some of their dreams. I'm not saying they are perfect in this area, but they are way better then us, and it shows in how they deal with each other in relationships compared ot how we deal with each other.

This actually makes some sense

 

[Mr. Somebody]

I think its simple. They impregnate women they dont love and have no intention on making into honest women. Its sad. The whores of women have lead the charge and taught other women that the way to be valued is by degrading yourself and sadly many women give up their virginity to someone who doesnt love them and views them as a trophy instead of a human being. Then when the union is made real with conception of a child, the man leaves and the woman uses the courts to get revenge. Its so demonic and unfortunately the devil doesnt mind intervening. Lets only be with women that we love so we dont create demonic tension in our communities that takes generations to erase.

 

[Binary]

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Is your black father around, friend?

 

[King Poetic]

Real talk.

More than 1 in 10 black men in their 20s or early 30s are currently incarcerated, and some experts estimate that as many as 1 in 4 black men will spend some time behind bars.

Only half of black boys graduate high school.

Some ex-convicts or high school dropouts find good jobs, but most do not. Black men without a college education, like less educated men of all races, confront an employment landscape in which the well-paying, labor intensive jobs on which earlier generations of men relied have either been eliminated by technology or moved overseas.

Black men’s difficulties arise partly for reasons beyond their control -- failing schools, a changing labor market, mass incarceration — but they nonetheless leave black men less able to fulfill the role of husband.

The harsh truth is that as black women have moved ahead, black men have fallen behind. Each year, nearly twice as many black women as men graduate college. Black women have surpassed their male counterparts even in lucrative and typically male-dominated fields like computer science. Twice as many black women as men go to graduate school, and in law and medicine, the gender gap is approaching 2 to 1 as well.

A Definite Shortage of Marriageable Black Men - Room for Debate - NYTimes.com

Going forward as a race of men, how do we hold each other accountable as brothers, fathers and husbands?

THAT RIGHT THERE IS THE REASON SO MANY BLACK WOMEN THINK THEY WEAR THE PANTS IN THE FAMILY AND THAT'S THE REASON SO MANY BROTHERS WHO DON'T HAVE KIDS AND HAS A EDUCATION FIND IT HARD TO DATE ALOT OF BLACK WOMEN... CONTROL BEING THE ISSUE..

Living in california i see more black men married outside of there race doing good in there marriage and fatherhood.. i work with a handful of them

 

[MeachTheMonster]

you want to tell me the black family has always had over 70% of out of wedlock births?

come on slim I know you are better than this.

We are reaping the "benefits" of single motherhood in our very eyes.
And "benefits" is not used in positive terms here....

The entire country is moving torward less marriages and that 70% stat is very misleading. It doesn't take into account the parents that got married after having the children, or the parents that stayed together without getting married.

Percentages were never taken in the past. And you say we are reaping the "benefits" as if they are bad, but in reality more black people are educated now than ever before, and less black people are living in poverty than ever before. So we must be doing something right.

 

[IpushFatKids]

Not only that but our prison system is designed to keep US in it so that they (cacs) have still have some sense of control over us. We are locked up more than whites and mexicans. Most of our Men are in jail and the numbers are growing. To me it's more than "black people wake up". We are up against a system that in essensce is trying to destroy, control, and dominate us.

Our afro american culture in this country has been influenced by many things including slavery, jim crow, ect. This will always be a them against us issue.

Victim card

 

[Binary]

Is your black father around, friend?

We talk. I'm not as close to him as I am with my mom. When he got re-married, I was thrown to the bushes
I have tons of father figures in my life including my uncle and my grandpa.

 

[Ohnoits]

justly deserved thread after the shyt storm this weekend on the coli

My dad was a pro at marriage though, and so were my grandfathers

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

I had a kid at 13 left town becasue i couldnt handle parenthood and never saw him again..i fukked up but learned a valuable lesson that im not built for fatherhood