How Can We Address Anti-intellectualism in Our Communities?

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Indivudal charter schools can be great.

As a whole the current charter school system promotes inequality, which I'm against.

As opposed to what?

That is bullshyt anyways, the only inequalities are caused by liberals stopping the expansion of charter schools to protect teacher's unions at the expense of black communities
 

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As opposed to what?

That is bullshyt anyways, the only inequalities are caused by liberals stopping the expansion of charter schools to protect teacher's unions at the expense of black communities

The charter system is a bandaid to a problem that still needs to be fixed. I personaly am against the idea of charter schools because they have historicaly been used as a deflection from the problem that still needs to be solved

The fact that a school is a charter school doesn't make it better. It's what's going on in the school that matters. Plenty of charters fail just as public schools do. And plenty of public schools succeed

Black kids should be able to walk out of their home and go to a close public school and receive a quality education. Anything that falls short of that goal is not a good plan in my opinion.
 

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The charter system is a bandaid to a problem that still needs to be fixed. I personaly am against the idea of charter schools because they have historicaly been used as a deflection from the problem that still needs to be solved

The fact that a school is a charter school doesn't make it better. It's what's going on in the school that matters. Plenty of charters fail just as public schools do. And plenty of public schools succeed

Black kids should be able to walk out of their home and go to a close public school and receive a quality education. Anything that falls short of that goal is not a good plan in my opinion.

The system doesn't need to be fixed, the system needs to be destroyed, and the fact is you are using a charter school something you oppose as an example of black people accomplishing and the fact is your so called solution is essentially demanding that white people fix things
 

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The system doesn't need to be fixed, the system needs to be destroyed, and the fact is you are using a charter school something you oppose as an example of black people accomplishing and the fact is your so called solution is essentially demanding that white people fix things

Once again when your nonsense fails you jump back into your tired old talking points. Once again I've said nothing about white people.

The irony of the situation is that white people enabled that Chicago school to exist, therefore your plan is reliant on white people which you are vehemently against.

Your confused rhetoric is collapsing upon itself :wow:
 

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I didn't read all 20 pages, so excuse me if this has already been mentioned, but I saw some mentions of black males not being enrolled in college and out-of-wedlock births. Well, thanks to discrimination in law, black males are being taken out of their communities and put in prisons at alarming rates. Right-wing people have their version of why black males get locked up more often than other races, but in truth, it comes down to discrimination. For instance, whites and black use drugs at the same rates, yet blacks are arrested at a rate far exceeding that of whites for drug crimes. This accounts for both phenomena (college, out-of-wedlock births). People can't attend college with a felony charge, but even if they could, people lose years of their lives in prison; most 55 year olds, for instance, wouldn't be interested in returning to school even if they could. The time, money, and energy spent wouldn't seem to be worth it to them, because they'd have to fully support themselves through it all; they'd rather work straight out at that point, and I can't blame them. And as far as the out-of-wedlock issue, it's not hard to see how taking a child's father away for years could be detrimental to a community when done on a large scale; this is exactly what's happening to the black community right now, and the right-wing media just paints it as if blacks are more prone to commit crimes... SMH. IF anti-intellectualism is more rampant in black communities, I would say that it is greatly exaggerated by these facts of discrimination. Also impacted are the socioeconomic conditions of the black community as a whole, which in turn fosters a more anti-intellectual environment, as poverty lends itself to ignorance.
 

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Once again when your nonsense fails you jump back into your tired old talking points. Once again I've said nothing about white people.

The irony of the situation is that white people enabled that Chicago school to exist, therefore your plan is reliant on white people which you are vehemently against.

Your confused rhetoric is collapsing upon itself :wow:

You don't have to say white people, it's implicit in all the essays you wrote about education reform

In black school districts you do not need white people to approve charter schools or vouchers, that is up to the school system, white people can do whatever they want, they can go along with the plan or they can oppose it, there is nothing I'm saying that requires white people
 

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You don't have to say white people, it's implicit in all the essays you wrote about education reform

In black school districts you do not need white people to approve charter schools or vouchers, that is up to the school system, white people can do whatever they want, they can go along with the plan or they can oppose it, there is nothing I'm saying that requires white people

There are no black states. Education is handled on the state level therefore there is no way to talk about education without talking about what white people should do.

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There are no black states. Education is handled on the state level therefore there is no way to talk about education without talking about what white people should do.

:ufdup:

No it's not, most schools are controlled at the municipal level by local school boards, and there are plenty of black munincipalities and there are plenty of black school boards all over the country
 

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No it's not, most schools are controlled at the municipal level by local school boards, and there are plenty of black munincipalities and there are plenty of black school boards all over the country

No. The municipals can only work with what the state gives them. A municipal cannot make decisions on charters, funding, or anything else without the state.

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No they can't. The money the rules and the regulations come from the state. They can only make decisions within the plan the state gives them.

Yeah and unless the state explicitly disallows charters or vouchers local school boards can create charters or vouchers and then the other question is why and who is going around the country making these laws trying to stop charters and vouchers? Let's take a wild guess
 

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Yeah and unless the state explicitly disallows charters or vouchers local school boards can create charters or vouchers and then the other question is why and who is going around the country making these laws trying to stop charters and vouchers? Let's take a wild guess

:heh: you have no idea what your talking about. And quit trying to change the subject. Your plan relies on the dependency of white people.

How do we remove the shackles? :lupe:
 

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man I took a nap and the thread went 6 pages. I read a few posts but they're just too much distraction posts for me to read all. I can waste my time responding to bigdeeot

this guy to me can only be 2 things
1. a guy brainwashed beyond repair;
2. an infiltrator to distract and confuse this discussion.

this is my beef with devils and their agents/c00ns. I don't waste my time. Debating them. Intact I'm down for just killing them. it's the only way to move forward cause they are plants to keep us in a state of confusion.
:whoa: :whoa: :whoa: I was wit you up until the bold...
 
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