Horn of Africa Regional Thread

[88m3]

Meanwhile what is happening with the dam project? Egypt looks to benefit from this chaos.

everything was still moving ahead as of this year, that project isn't going to stop





the second filling was in July when I just googled

 

[dtownreppin214]

That ceasefire was the real miscalculation. There was no reason to believe the TPLF would act in similar fashion. The excuses of rainy season and wanting farmers to work is bullshyt to me. If it weren’t for the fact that I’ve always hated Woyane and look at them as a destabilizing force I’d be so anti-Abiy. He’s really shown at times that he’s a novice statesman. Almost to the point that you wonder if he’s in cahoots with his old handlers.

I understand that Woyane have almost half a century of experience overall. But the military calculations of Abiy and the govt have been very questionable in some cases. You don’t call a ceasefire against an enemy that attacked you. Especially when you haven’t established very clear advantages and war is no longer viable for your opponent.

Never should have left Mekelle too.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Never should have left Mekelle too.

Big mistake. He should’ve finished them right there. If Abiy can pull a rabbit out of a hat then I’ll tip my cap but that was a potentially fateful decision. That’s not how you win a war. There has been craziness in the past but this is very fukkin dangerous in comparison. A lot of people will die if they make it to Addis. This won’t be business as usual after 30 years of ethnicity before nation. Classic neocolonialism. Nkrumah’s statue at the AU should’ve taught my people more lessons. Instead, many of them questioned why Selassie wasn’t chosen first as if his failure as a leader isn’t why we got here.

I’ll vote green or Progressive Dem for the rest of my life. Establishment Dems have made a pure enemy out of me as a voter. fukk them I hope that overgrown tent caves in.

 

[Broke Wave]

Big mistake. He should’ve finished them right there. If Abiy can pull a rabbit out of a hat then I’ll tip my cap but that was a potentially fateful decision. That’s not how you win a war. There has been craziness in the past but this is very fukkin dangerous in comparison. A lot of people will die if they make it to Addis. This won’t be business as usual after 30 years of ethnicity before nation. Classic neocolonialism. Nkrumah’s statue at the AU should’ve taught my people more lessons. Instead, many of them questioned why Selassie wasn’t chosen first as if his failure as a leader isn’t why we got here.

I’ll vote green or Progressive Dem for the rest of my life. Establishment Dems have made a pure enemy out of me as a voter. fukk them I hope that overgrown tent caves in.

Don't listen to fake somali's talking about how this is good for somalia lol.

The TPLF committed their worst genocide and atrocities not only against the Somali's in the Ogaden, but even brazenly invaded Mogadishu until nikkas had to spank them out of there.

Then Abiy is the first leader since the Melenik Era to have positive relations with Somalis in Ethiopia, Somalia proper, and Somaliland in an effort to reconcile and access the sea. If someone can tell me how this benefits Somalia esp Mogadishu which has benefitted from the increased cooperation with Ethiopia in the last couple years?

Is the political crisis in Somalia, Ethiopia, and now Sudan all some kind of "balkanization" coincidence? Or maybe are they related?

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Don't listen to fake somali's talking about how this is good for somalia lol.

The TPLF committed their worst genocide and atrocities not only against the Somali's in the Ogaden, but even brazenly invaded Mogadishu until nikkas had to spank them out of there.

Then Abiy is the first leader since the Melenik Era to have positive relations with Somalis in Ethiopia, Somalia proper, and Somaliland in an effort to reconcile and access the sea. If someone can tell me how this benefits Somalia esp Mogadishu which has benefitted from the increased cooperation with Ethiopia in the last couple years?

Is the political crisis in Somalia, Ethiopia, and now Sudan all some kind of "balkanization" coincidence? Or maybe are they related?

For centuries now it’s always been the same common denominator. Outsiders. Foreign geopolitical interests of more powerful nations will continuously keep the region in a stranglehold of chaos, instability, famine, and death. The sooner our people collectively realize this the better.

It’s very telling that Abiy attempting to create real unity in the country and the region was a problem for the West.

 

[Broke Wave]

For centuries now it’s always been the same common denominator. Outsiders. Foreign geopolitical interests of more powerful nations will continuously keep the region in a stranglehold of chaos, instability, famine, and death. The sooner our people collectively realize this the better.

It’s very telling that Abiy attempting to create real unity in the country and the region was a problem for the West.

We’ve never been more intertwined with the west than today even more than our colonial era, yet we even suffer more today than then. That is the true common denominator.

 

[dtownreppin214]

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Might as well succeed, they sound shook

 

[Trajan]

TPLF byke


They got their weight up over the last 30 years... Hoarding military equipment.. Senior positions in the security services

No wonder they were talking real greasy

 

[Trajan]

This guy is a Nobel peace prize winner

fukk a nobel peace prize

Cacs rewarding you with trinkets should never prevent you from taking whatever course of action you feel is correct.

Them Tigrays are formidable though. Linking up with the OLA seems to have swung the pendulum firmly in their favour

 

[thatrapsfan]

Don't listen to fake somali's talking about how this is good for somalia lol.

The TPLF committed their worst genocide and atrocities not only against the Somali's in the Ogaden, but even brazenly invaded Mogadishu until nikkas had to spank them out of there.

Then Abiy is the first leader since the Melenik Era to have positive relations with Somalis in Ethiopia, Somalia proper, and Somaliland in an effort to reconcile and access the sea. If someone can tell me how this benefits Somalia esp Mogadishu which has benefitted from the increased cooperation with Ethiopia in the last couple years?

Is the political crisis in Somalia, Ethiopia, and now Sudan all some kind of "balkanization" coincidence? Or maybe are they related?

In concrete terms, what has Abiy done for Somalia? He has good relations with Farmaajo, but what has that done for people on ground?

Back in 1991 when TPLF first came to power, there was also a similar rosy period between Somali region and Addis. It seemed like they were receiving greater autonomy and stability. Yet things came to a head as time passed and they consolidated power.

What gives you confidence this won’t happen again, seeing how Abiy has governed in past few years? You have great confidence and trust in same guy who was donning Oromo traditional clothes, dancing at Irreechaa, then turned around and jailed same people who brought him into power? The people he’s now allied with and give him the greatest support, covet a strong centralized Ethiopia. I don’t see any scenario where that will turn out well for the Somali region, in the long run. He has just been too distracted with bigger problems.

Current Somali region leader is just playing the opposite role of Abdi Iley, going to the extremes to curry favour with federal leader, and being more catholic than the Pope. He joined his party, blatantly rigged the regional election, and sent regional troops to fight in Amhara region. I don’t see how any of those moves will help regular Somalis in long run, though I see how it can benefit him politically.

 

[TrapParis]

What are these western powers doing? The UN, US, European union? They need to work to resolve this, now. The TPLF cannot go to the capital, Ethiopia will breakdown, this must be avoided at all costs.

This war is supported by Egypt and France all which are deeply imbedded with the EU and NATO. They want to get Abiy off the paint.

 

[King Ming]

What are these western powers doing? The UN, US, European union? They need to work to resolve this, now. The TPLF cannot go to the capital, Ethiopia will breakdown, this must be avoided at all costs.

The fukk going on over there in Ethopia brehs? Y is the US supporting a terrorist group about to oust a sitting president?

 

[SwizzLake]

Don't listen to fake somali's talking about how this is good for somalia lol.

The TPLF committed their worst genocide and atrocities not only against the Somali's in the Ogaden, but even brazenly invaded Mogadishu until nikkas had to spank them out of there.

Then Abiy is the first leader since the Melenik Era to have positive relations with Somalis in Ethiopia, Somalia proper, and Somaliland in an effort to reconcile and access the sea. If someone can tell me how this benefits Somalia esp Mogadishu which has benefitted from the increased cooperation with Ethiopia in the last couple years?

Is the political crisis in Somalia, Ethiopia, and now Sudan all some kind of "balkanization" coincidence? Or maybe are they related?

Exactly...any Somali supporting these TPLF terrorists ought to be ashamed of themselves. Abiy is the best politician Ethiopia had in decades, good for Ethiopia and for the region.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

The fukk going on over there in Ethopia brehs? Y is the US supporting a terrorist group about to oust a sitting president?

Because we wanted to build deeper cooperative ties with our neighbors and that was deemed as a threat to U.S. imperial interests.