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Ethiopia needs to work that shyt out quickly. :smugbiden: Got a bunch of neoliberal vultures with him. They will have Ethiopia looking like a combination of Somalia and Afghanistan.

lol we don’t give a fukk. Ethiopians are too prideful to be scared of Biden. The more it comes out that the West has been aiding the Woyane scum the quicker other countries will pivot to China and away from America.
 

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lol we don’t give a fukk. Ethiopians are too prideful to be scared of Biden. The more it comes out that the West has been aiding the Woyane scum the quicker other countries will pivot to China and away from America.
They've obviously been getting satellite assistance from the CIA. Woyane spies are also helping them in some of these Amhara towns. They also have a spy network in Addis.

Idk man, Abiy needs to tighten up. They are too close to Addis at this point. Those drones/planes should be in the air 24/7 at this point. Abiy will lose respect if he continues to fail to protect his citizens.

Eritrea also has a responsibility to re-engage at this point. Because if TPLF regains power in any form they will go after Asmara next.

Maybe I'm tripping or falling for the propaganda machine too but them this deep in Wollo is concerning.
 

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This is a war being fought in the media. Most of what gets reported, on both sides, good or bad, is being done for appearance purposes. They are all trying to walk a tight rope. TPLFs primary diplomatic/political strategy (externally) to the west is portraying themselves as the underdogs/victims. But within the country to diaspora, they have to project strength/confidence. The problem is one contradicts the other, and puts the US/west in a difficult position bc although they prefer the TPLF, the US has to maintain some semblance of "neutrality." If you look at the official US responses to various developments, whereas in the past they placed 100% of blame on Ethiopian govt, they now include messaging condemning tplf for expanding war into Amhara etc. Ethiopia on other hand doesn't want to risk fallout from a brutal/all out war campaign - which can make them look weak internally and to diaspora. Even though it's obvious there is a real split in relations between Ethiopia and US govts, Ethiopia for instance still wants to remain in AGOA. At end of the day the US know that a return to the tplf dominated past is a nonstarter. Even the tplf knows that. Both they and the US are actually fighting for some new agreement granting them greater self autonomy. That way even if the US Ethiopia relationship is ruined and Ethiopia continues to drift to China, the US will still have a base of power/influence in the region.
Good post.

I'd argue Abiy was very much keen to improve relations with the US and the West, and everything about his economic policy suggested so. While in power TPLF placed its bets on security partnership with the US, while looking to China for economic partnership (and remaining keen on state-led economic development). Hence why they welcomed heavy Chinese investment, at the same time they were supporting US counterterrorism policy in Somalia. As well, telecom and banking sector remind tightly restricted from foreign investors.

Abiy inverted this relationship, looking to liberalize economically, while trying to pursue a separate geopolitical strategy. It was aligned with the US briefly under Trump, but fell out of favour under Biden, and especially after the start of the war. Long story, short both sides have pursued Western (and US favour) in separate ways. I dont see any proof whatsoever that the TPLF are receiving military support from the US, though Im sure some within the Biden Admin are sympathetic.
 

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They've obviously been getting satellite assistance from the CIA. Woyane spies are also helping them in some of these Amhara towns. They also have a spy network in Addis.

Idk man, Abiy needs to tighten up. They are too close to Addis at this point. Those drones/planes should be in the air 24/7 at this point. Abiy will lose respect if he continues to fail to protect his citizens.

Eritrea also has a responsibility to re-engage at this point. Because if TPLF regains power in any form they will go after Asmara next.

Maybe I'm tripping or falling for the propaganda machine too but them this deep in Wollo is concerning.

You are lol. Just like the other poster said, Woyanes coverage is so inconsistent you can’t tell if they’re hopeless victims of a genocide by a dictator or a triumphant band of ragtag rebels defying the odds. Either way, the reliability of media coverage is pretty low. Especially from Western and Western influenced media.

From what I’m gathering, there’s heavy fighting in Dessie and a huge mobilization of citizens to the area. It’s still too early to take a report of victory from either side as concrete. Let’s let the dust settle before freakin out. The more Woyane continue the harder it becomes for America/EU to maintain support. The deeper they attempt to go into Addis the more chaos will be unleashed throughout the whole country.
 

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Good post.

I'd argue Abiy was very much keen to improve relations with the US and the West, and everything about his economic policy suggested so. While in power TPLF placed its bets on security partnership with the US, while looking to China for economic partnership (and remaining keen on state-led economic development). Hence why they welcomed heavy Chinese investment, at the same time they were supporting US counterterrorism policy in Somalia. As well, telecom and banking sector remind tightly restricted from foreign investors.

Abiy inverted this relationship, looking to liberalize economically, while trying to pursue a separate geopolitical strategy. It was aligned with the US briefly under Trump, but fell out of favour under Biden, and especially after the start of the war. Long story, short both sides have pursued Western (and US favour) in separate ways. I dont see any proof whatsoever that the TPLF are receiving military support from the US, though Im sure some within the Biden Admin are sympathetic.
They provided TPLF surveillance in the '98 war and they got caught doing it again.

 

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You are lol. Just like the other poster said, Woyanes coverage is so inconsistent you can’t tell if they’re hopeless victims of a genocide by a dictator or a triumphant band of ragtag rebels defying the odds. Either way, the reliability of media coverage is pretty low. Especially from Western and Western influenced media.

From what I’m gathering, there’s heavy fighting in Dessie and a huge mobilization of citizens to the area. It’s still too early to take a report of victory from either side as concrete. Let’s let the dust settle before freakin out. The more Woyane continue the harder it becomes for America/EU to maintain support. The deeper they attempt to go into Addis the more chaos will be unleashed throughout the whole country.
They have already taken Dessie and Kombolcha. Breh, even harden Abiy loyalists are a little disturbed by the developments of the last 72 hours. Those two towns are of strategic importance and close to where the EPRDF reached when Mengistu fled. I believe Abiy needs to address the nation, institute some form of a draft and wipe these a$$holes out before they form an effective alliance with OLF.
 

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Ethiopia needs to work that shyt out quickly. :smugbiden: Got a bunch of neoliberal vultures with him. They will have Ethiopia looking like a combination of Somalia and Afghanistan.
Ethiopia ain’t that far off from Afghanistan or Somalia anyway. Egypt comes out on top once again.
:yeshrug:
 

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They have already taken Dessie and Kombolcha. Breh, even harden Abiy loyalists are a little disturbed by the developments of the last 72 hours. Those two towns are of strategic importance and close to where the EPRDF reached when Mengistu fled. I believe Abiy needs to address the nation, institute some form of a draft and wipe these a$$holes out before they form an effective alliance with OLF.

Taken is one thing. Can they maintain that position? Also, at some point this advance will encourage Eritrea to get involved and start a second front from the north. Also, many citizens are already volunteering for the armed forces at this point so he doesn’t exactly need to institute a draft. I think that would be an unpopular move for Abiy supporters.

Moreover, we can’t compare this situation to Mengistu. The Derg was facing Woyane and other internal forces as well as fighting the Eritrean independence movement. Not quite the same. Not to mention, Mengistu had a dying Soviet Union to rely on whereas now if it really came down to it Abiy can pivot to China/Russia.

I need to see more things develop before freaking out. I think what does need to happen is there needs to be a more aggressive media campaign showing the very real atrocities that the Woyane are engaged in. Again, the last thing the West wants is for this to be an even more prolonged conflict because the Woyanes criminality will be harder and harder to hide. They’ve already had to come out about child soldiers, it’s obvious Woyane have been taking the aid and using it for supplies like they did against the Derg, Al Jazeera has been heavily in favor of Woyane but even they’ve shown cracks in their reports by begrudgingly having to report about TPLF atrocities.

Ethiopia ain’t that far off from Afghanistan or Somalia anyway. Egypt comes out on top once again.
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Until the GERD is blown up those sand cac cocksuckers ain’t win shyt. I saw them bring foreign ministers to a bullshyt UN Security Council and we brought the guy in charge of the water. Cuz they chumps and we don’t give a fukk about em.
 
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They provided TPLF surveillance in the '98 war and they got caught doing it again.


Cmon man, this is hardly a smoking gun, this can literally be anybody. Its not 1998 and if there was any evidence of material support, whether weapons or logistics it would be put out on the summer jam screen by the Government.

Social media is rife with fake claims, fake videos, fake photos.

Just look at this dudes tweet :heh: Do you find this remotely believable?

 

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What is the source of your affection for TPLF? Why would anyone outside of Tigray want America's pet back in power? Please explain.
I couldn’t care less cause abiy was a threat to ethnic federalism. Amharas where getting top level jobs left to right in Somali region of Ethiopia.
anywhooo

 

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The balkanization of the fake nation Ethiopia is finally upon us :blessed:

Oromo, Somali and Afar better play smart this time and not let TPLF take full control.
 
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