HOES KILLED HIP HOP...end of story
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Breh,
It's not rocket science.
The common African American did not purchase personal computers until they became more affordable around the mid 00's.
If you were an African American that had a personal computer in the 90's or early 00's you either had one because you came from a rich family or personal had money to afford one yourself and needed one that dealt with your career or schooling. They were too expensive back then to just go out and purchase one just because you wanted one compared to today.
We were late jumping on the technological revolution before personal computers became less expensive but best believe our blacks asses filled up every library and computer lab that allowed internet access.
Like I've said, back in the late 90's it was white kids bootlegging shyt first. All my white friends had personal computers in their household back in the day, it was normal for them.
Dude even drew the Wu-Tang logo on the side of his monitor, do you know how much a monitor was going for back in 1997?
You right, but black folk were buying bootleg CDs from the Africans en masse for $5 back then. I know people that have the original "I Am" album by Nas back in the day that bootleg the shyt outta it.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
I am being hard on hoes.
I am being hard on this hoe ass pass giving to sellout ass nikka:
DANJA!
art barr
art barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
did you not hear the gettin jiggy remix with pun and cam?
cam repaired his cultural standing.
signaled by cam, rebelling against the jiggy cadre of wackiness that helped create the profitability and draw.
that he gravitated towards to get signed with mase/un/puff/jay.
finally closing out his attention to cultural responsibility administratively as a label owner.
originally, his signing and cof debut.
was viewed as an extreme departure of the ditc/finesse/big L/eight is enough family tree culturally.
after mase, also abandoned said roots and his original delivery with coc.
both dumbed down, vocally as talents.
plus, their perception were dulled long term at the time.
to the point,..
in this community and culturally cam was a laughing stock.
not to mention,..
I was never a supporter of his during this era at all.
as it is well documented when became a supporter of cam'ron on rocafella with the pr of jay's coup attempt.
then, later his release of purple haze and his comeuppance of skill vocally, and as a more solid technical marvel.
closer akin, to the development he should have featured originally.
being an offshoot of ditc/finesse/big L/eight is enough crew.
also,..
before cam returned back from the darkside culturally.
he was loathed in this community.
which was signaled by the dipset spam movement.
which, originally amplified the apathy towards cam and his jiggy allegiances.
cam, was not always an accepted figure for his choices, culturally.
seeing as his pedigree comes from the family tree of ditc/finesse/big L.
also, speaking of ditc.
ditc, also soul't out.
on their group lp, and diamond d's second album ode to jiggy-ism.
after his success as a producer on the fugee's the score lp.
that was a departure from stunts, blunts and hiphop.
of, which fatjoe was part of the collective.
on top of being the management/mastermind behind pun.
where, pun, was on the slippery slope.
here and there,...
that after pun's death, was evident by fatjoe completely selling all the way out.
when, he made jose ii, and was jumping in swimming pools in powder blue fur coats in 2001-2002.
coupled with fatjoe's nas biting during the mid nineties.
that even common called him out on, as his labelmate 1995.
I know this culture, breh.
learn your history and the past of the rap industry.
stop letting culture thieves get away with destroying your culture.
if you were an indian,.....
whom, never received reparations.
by you ignoring the actual facts.
you would gladly accept that smallpox gift package of blanketing.
if you accept what people in the industry.
have allowed and done to the culture through business and the publically traded prison industry complex.
art barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
oh stop deflecting....
I have facts, and actual real cultural experience.
on top of numerous tours for years as an artist.
from the grassroots as a roadie to an actual highly skilled performer.
I started from the basement, and with blood/sweat/tears, high optimium effort.
achieved what very few will ever do in rap.
which, is actually build up skill and respect culturally.
from, the ground floor without faking one jack.
it is completely a laughable lie....
that, you actually being able to rhyme on my level is a fuc'n farce.
just as much as your dj'n skills.
especially, since you have no factual show of your skill on a cultural or international level.
which is what the dmc is about.
when, it comes to emcee'n..
you know,..
you have no factual evidence to point to.
nor, do you actually have any skill, consistent bookings, or cosigns by actual relevant culturally real contemporaries.
the only person lying here is you.
I have factually showed and proved on a level skillwise and culturally.
you will never do.
that is why you give passes.
on top of being a prime excuse maker for culture thieves in rap.
as you are a culture thief yourself.
looking to create a pass system.
upon which you can build a fake draw, to make a monetary return.
while trying to downplay, real bboys like me.
who actually, factually, and really went out in the world.
in numerous pillars from break'n/graf/emcee'n, to prove his mettle as a real contributor and protector of this culture.
you are a fukk'n fraud as a contributor and you know it.
that is why you stand so staunchly against real bboys, like:
art barr
Breh,
It's not rocket science.
The common African American did not purchase personal computers until they became more affordable around the mid 00's.
If you were an African American that had a personal computer in the 90's or early 00's you either had one because you came from a rich family or personal had money to afford one yourself and needed one that dealt with your career or schooling. They were too expensive back then to just go out and purchase one just because you wanted one compared to today.
We were late jumping on the technological revolution before personal computers became less expensive but best believe our blacks asses filled up every library and computer lab that allowed internet access.
Like I've said, back in the late 90's it was white kids bootlegging shyt first. All my white friends had personal computers in their household back in the day, it was normal for them.
Dude even drew the Wu-Tang logo on the side of his monitor, do you know how much a monitor was going for back in 1997?
if you would have said the 80s then i would have agreed with you.but i know for a fact nikkas had computers in 95 in they houses and none of us no damn rich or white kids.fools use to get on those chat rooms just to fukk with people like we did in the 80s with CBs and truck drivers.
i had a CD dual burner in 99 when cd-rs wouldnt even play in most Cd players and im faaaar from rich or white.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
exactly. black people ALWAYS bootlegged heavy. and we always dubbed tapes heavy.
downloading & burning cds initially was moreso just bootlegging for people not from the hood.
i had to be one of the first urban cats with a cd burner. im not talking about just a computer, im talking about having a cd burner hooked up to it. that chit was basically my high school job, as there wasnt much competition so i had mad customers in school and around the way and i was charging people up. especially for customized cds. thats the main thing they would come to me for. and if it wasnt a customized cd, then they wanted either and old or obscure album that they couldnt just borrow from somebody or cop from the bootleg man. nobody ever came to me trying to buy the new clue tape or the jada album or anything like that. they didnt need to - which furthers your point.
Breh,
It's not rocket science.
The common African American did not purchase personal computers until they became more affordable around the mid 00's.
If you were an African American that had a personal computer in the 90's or early 00's you either had one because you came from a rich family or personal had money to afford one yourself and needed one that dealt with your career or schooling. They were too expensive back then to just go out and purchase one just because you wanted one compared to today.
We were late jumping on the technological revolution before personal computers became less expensive but best believe our blacks asses filled up every library and computer lab that allowed internet access.
Like I've said, back in the late 90's it was white kids bootlegging shyt first. All my white friends had personal computers in their household back in the day, it was normal for them.
Dude even drew the Wu-Tang logo on the side of his monitor, do you know how much a monitor was going for back in 1997?
bootlegging has been rampant in the black community since forever.
and i cant rock with the years youre posting. the black internet community has been big since the late '90s. and especially by the early 2000s. when you think BLACK PLANET blew up? and basically every other person i knew had AOL. all that stuff was basically dead by the time the mid-00s rolled around so, obviously the internet was big with black people before that point.
sure, the mid-00s was the point where EVERYBODY had a computer. yes. but the internet was still huge amongst black people beforehand. i remember the days when people would pile up in the library but it was already big before that.
@ the bolded, i dont think youre getting my drift. im not comparing 2001 to later years. im saying AT THAT TIME, 2001 was the weakest year i had ever witnessed in rap. sure 2001 looks like gold in comparison to the past 10 years, but thats not saying much. youre crazy if you think 2001 was one of the best years for hip-hop.
sure, it was one of my personal favorite years in terms of fun & f*ckery. it was the year of battles & DJ mixtapes. thats what carried 2001. but once you get past that and look at the albums & singles, its laughable in comparison to all the previous years.
the fact that kiss & fab arguably dropped top 5 albums that year just goes to show how weak that chit was.
the fact that you had to resort to mentioning the DMX album that removed him from the title picture, tells me that you really dont believe this is one of the best years either.
2001 aint even in the running for best year the early 2000s, let alone all-time.
2000, 2002 & 2003 were all better.
2001 signalled the beginning of the end actually. the viacom takeover started to take shape and they ended up in control of all the music networks and the brainwashing began soon after. i know i dont even have to mention what they did to BET. even worse, they bought out THE BOX and took it off the air, replacing it with mtv2 and str8 killing the fans' voice, which led to darn near every artist playing follow the leader, hopping on trends & styles that werent even that popular or respected, and then wondering why nobody wanted to purchase their generic sounding music, and blaming it on downloading.
this is where the game REALLY started to lose its way. then politics got out of control to the point where the torch never got passed to the next dudes up, which resulted in the past 10 years of bullchit where now you have old man jay-z still in the limelight droppin struggle raps and being praised for it.
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this is what you said
"If you were an African American that had a personal computer in the 90's or early 00's you either had one because you came from a rich family or personal had money to afford one yourself and needed one that dealt with your career or schooling. They were too expensive back then to just go out and purchase one just because you wanted one compared to today."
people i knew was not from a rich family,had a computer for a career or school.they was not too expensive back then.you could get a good running computer in 95 with that free AOL Online Disc for under 200 bucks.i knew a lot of black people back in the mid 90s that had computers for none of the reasons you named.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
i see what youre trying to say but youre going too far with it.
tons of black people had computers long before the mid-00s and they had it mostly for entertainment purposes. AOL discs were commonplace since the late '90s/early '00s at the latest. theres a reason why magazines quickly stopped packaging AOL discs and such on the shelves. people werent stealing them for library computer use. they were stealing them for home consumption. black planet didnt blow up off of just a bunch of random daytime library hits.
this.
Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
a running computer in the 90s for 200 bucks? from who? I bought a burner for $150 at compusa and that had like 200 in mail in rebate
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
mothafukka said cam sold out. ditc sold out, fat joe sold out. im at the point where im thinking y
cam did sell out in the late '90s and dam near ruined his career.
have you been following fat joe in recent years?
Knicksman20
Superstar
The title of the vid I embedded is misleading. R.A. hits a major point with what went wrong with hip hop in the first 2-3 min. Get a look:
