HOES KILLED HIP HOP...end of story

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the one luv female rnb hook remix
no showing all his shows.
then, deflecting and whining when big won the source award.
so, he could authenticate hiring sellout steve stout/trackmasters.
which, directly created the ability for jiggy to become profitable.
when, it had been outlawed in the culture as early as dj Hollywood.

followed up by the sellout whodini beat and prop'n of culture thief Curtis blow.
selling out the production of iww to the highest bidder.
one of the worst jiggy low quality skill off key rhyming on subsequent releases
throwing a bootyshake wet t-shirt party.
instead of performing, to mask how awful a performer he was.

aligning with puff to cause further erosion.
that fully destroyed the protection mechanism of the culture in the industry of rap.

hiding his hands....
then, deflecting on hiphop is dead's who killed't it.

just like you are doing.

there is more,......do you want me to continue.

stop giving passes to the main culture thieves...

art barr


Man, you're talking about musical TRADITION of paying homage while adding your own flavor, that's called an "ILL RENDITION".

Are you talking about "Hate Me Now"?, with a video that infused fashion and cinema? Hype Williams was able to charge 6-7 million dollars a video back then.
How is that eroding the mechanism of culture? Or the Hip-Hip INDUSTRY? Film, fashion and music all GOT PAID...BIG BUCKS.


Jay-Z put on TOM FORD, GWENETH PALTROW and JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE... LL Cool J and Russell Simmons are official QUEENS HUSTLERS...put on BLACKS "FOR US BY US...ON THE LOW" ...had cacs clappin' in the video like "yeah, yeah, LL COOL ****** (whatever your name is), just say "the Gap" and make US some paper" wearing FUBU



C'mon Art Barr I thought you were one the Coli's finest B? LL and Flex were droppin' science "Ask Russell Simmons who put him up in the skyscrapper, ask my dawgs at FUBU who made them MAJOR"




What happened to Cannibus?
 

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when rass kass rhymed if the next hip hop fad was fags, and I knew it was sincere, I knew these homosexuals would blame it on women. folks love charlamayne and cheer lead his anti drake crusade, yet char char was cheerleading the ultimate sucka mc jay z, and no one blinked.
 

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Single ratchet azz mommas influenced this shyt we call rap today. ......they still do u got 40yr old women bumping this Hannah Montana type shyt with her son in the car and all her other ratchet friends cosigning thatshyt .
trifling bytches is a new phenomenon :stopitslime:
 

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Hoe ass nikkas tryna make a quick buck killed Hip-Hop ...from the Franchize Boyz it was down hill, like Nas said, it went stale.

Magna Carta Holy Grail was the nail in the coffin, Jay-Z made it clear "white people's opinions matter in Hip-Hop". Which is why Macklemore took home that award.

Before Magna Carta Holy Grail was ever conceptualized, it was Kanye who spearheaded the whole if Pitchfork doesn't co-sign it, the Grammys don't acknowledge it, or it doesn't get universal acclaim from Metacritic, then it's garbage. No album pushed that point harder than My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and Yeezus. It was all about "pushing the envelope" more so than how the music sounded. With MCHG, it had nothing to do with "white people's opinions", because it was those critics who dismissed the album as a "good album", but gave it a low score for being a Jay Z album.
 

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Single ratchet azz mommas influenced this shyt we call rap today. ......they still do u got 40yr old women bumping this Hannah Montana type shyt with her son in the car and all her other ratchet friends cosigning thatshyt .

Pretty much.
 

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Hip Hop still lives. It does suffer though. The thing it suffers most from are:

1) Everybody's a rapper.

2) Everybody's a critic

3) Hip Hop as a culture has been reduced to just the music

4) The other elements have been replaced by what these "Hip Hop" reality shows offer which is gossip and tabloid fodder. Artists who were on the cusp of blowing up and artists whose careers stalled get a second wind, not by releasing new music, but by going on a reality show. The music suffers because now they are stars for everything, but making music. It goes back to the point of everybody being a rapper, because we as "commentators" instead of fans see Hip Hop more as a hustle or an avenue for cash flow than an art form or culture. Like, hey I can make some records, make a few dollars and when my music is no longer poppin', I can just go to VH1.

We don't really have fans anymore, but more so commentators.
 

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the one luv female rnb hook remix
no showing all his shows.
then, deflecting and whining when big won the source award.
so, he could authenticate hiring sellout steve stout/trackmasters.
which, directly created the ability for jiggy to become profitable.
when, it had been outlawed in the culture as early as dj Hollywood.

followed up by the sellout whodini beat and prop'n of culture thief Curtis blow.
selling out the production of iww to the highest bidder.
one of the worst jiggy low quality skill off key rhyming on subsequent releases
throwing a bootyshake wet t-shirt party.
instead of performing, to mask how awful a performer he was.

aligning with puff to cause further erosion.
that fully destroyed the protection mechanism of the culture in the industry of rap.

hiding his hands....
then, deflecting on hiphop is dead's who killed't it.

just like you are doing.

there is more,......do you want me to continue.

stop giving passes to the main culture thieves...

art barr

Plenty of good points.

I'll even further it and say plenty of the older, respected artists sold out the art form, and yet years later will get respect for what they did when people call it "that real!"

There are exceptions in catalogues like Jay-Z dropping The Blueprint as a major artist. Other than H to the Izzo, nearly every song sounded like traditional hip-hop, and that includes Girls, Girls, Girls.

But looking elsewhere, such as when people talk about Bone Thugs N Harmony. Everybody mentions how dope they were when they look back, and plenty of people do get it right when they talk about Creepin on ah Come Up and East Eternal 1999. Yet they fail to mention how bad they all sold out. They completely changed up their version of singing.

Going from this:


To this:

I'm not fronting, it sounds dope and was my shyt back in the day. But think of it from the perspective of a loyal BTNH fan, that shyt is probably disappointing. We'll also complain about why music isn't like that Mo Thugs song anymore, but that's what happens when you continually sell out, the music gets weaker for all artists as a whole.

Granted, if they stuck to their same style over and over, they may have gotten exhausted and bland, I understand that. But however, there's great respect sticking to what you do and coming up with different ways to make it dope rather than take the easy way out.

Don't get this confused with another common occurence in hip-hop also which comes form the other side of the spectrum. When people just like to put clown and shame new music. Kendrick Lamar is a stong example of this when GKMC is obviously a classic album, but yet you got some people just hating on the moment and saying shyt like, "Section 80 > GKMC." Now if you really believe that then fine, as long as your opinion is completely about music and you're not hating on it just because his popularity sky rocketed after GKMC.

Also goes along the same lines as a ton of people hating Drake right now. But in a few years when another artist comes out with the same singing and rapping style, those same people gonna be like "This cat isn't on Drake's level. At least Drake kept it hip-hop."
 
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Hip Hop still lives. It does suffer though. The thing it suffers most from are:

1) Everybody's a rapper.

2) Everybody's a critic

3) Hip Hop as a culture has been reduced to just the music

4) The other elements have been replaced by what these "Hip Hop" reality shows offer which is gossip and tabloid fodder. Artists who were on the cusp of blowing up and artists whose careers stalled get a second wind, not by releasing new music, but by going on a reality show. The music suffers because now they are stars for everything, but making music. It goes back to the point of everybody being a rapper, because we as "commentators" instead of fans see Hip Hop more as a hustle or an avenue for cash flow than an art form or culture. Like, hey I can make some records, make a few dollars and when my music is no longer poppin', I can just go to VH1.

We don't really have fans anymore, but more so commentators.
BINGO!
 
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