HOES KILLED HIP HOP...end of story

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bytches, and the hoe nikkas who simp them did play an integral part in the destruction of hip hop.

I try and tell you lil nikkas...we had bytches tweaking to some straight gangsta shyt! bytches if you got all that ass, you can pop it to this Rakim as well as 2 live crew. When a batch got in your car, they listened and nodded to what you were plying. Usually something they knew nothing about, but that respect they had for you MADE them wanna hear what you had.

nikkas stopped being leaders and started following these hoes! So really you can't be mad at the birds...birds follow the nikka they fukkin with.

I wanna place a big responsibility on the black label owners and rappers who made it big, for not taking that next step and securing hip hop as a black multi - billion dollar business. Guys like puff, j. Prince, russell, etc., should have BEEN clique up and formed distribution chains etc. They should have been formed an all black label and monopolize hip hop for us. Instead, they continue to allow cacs to make the most from hip hop.

If ever I get the ear of one of these rich rappers tho...I'm going to present a way we can recapture hip hop and bring this baby home. I also want to contact Dr. Claud with this because he's trying to bring wealth to the black community.
 

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originally, cotc were called out for biting wu tang.
just like yaggfu front and the umc's were, in that time period.

it is just revisionist history, has tried to take over.
for the legacy of cotc.
hpk, had nikkaz mad and calling up to never play cotc, back then.
I distinctly remember the backlash.

yet, many people like to revise history.

just, like ancient rome trying to say they were not a gay society.
then, gays acting as if they have been put in a box as extreme as slavery/discrimination.
when, it is all a farce and a lie.

when it comes to mase.
mase, distinctly and purposefully sold out.
by dumbing down his skillset and vocal tonality/mic presence/delivery.
plus, aligned with puff to desecrate the one of the greatest records in history.
not, just rap records, in history.
one of the greatest records in history on hold me down.

It is a complete distinct difference between mase in the eight is enough/cotc era.
as opposed to his dumbed down gargles puff cum in his mouth delivery on badboy.


this is mase originally:



who was lightyears ahead of others in his immediate company and others in rap.
his grasp, was far from the bitten developing members of cotc.
who were biting wu tang....
to becoming the worst unconvincing dumbed down skill sellout artist in rap history.

if you read one of the youtube comments.
someone there is like...
this can't be 93.
or mase would have been the best emcee.
when, argueably as a newcomer.
mase, could have been so powerful if he never sold out and dumbed down.
that no one could have possibly seen him.
plus, he would have probably been bigger.
if he never dumbed down, and he would have never had to leave the rap world.
as he may have mentally been more sound, if he stayed true to himself.






art barr


Damn I remember Mase saying in interview way back that Big L and someone else used to steal the shyt he used to spit when they ciphered at the park or something of that nature... when I hear this old mase freestyle it convinces me that he wasn't bullshyttin, dude would of been neck and neck with nas had he stuck to his guns.

Another thing, Mase had nikkas thinking he was slow or something when its clearly obvious now that he is far from slow and after hearing that freestyle i'd assume he had what it took to be the Best MC in NYC.
 
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bytches, and the hoe nikkas who simp them did play an integral part in the destruction of hip hop.

I try and tell you lil nikkas...we had bytches tweaking to some straight gangsta shyt! bytches if you got all that ass, you can pop it to this Rakim as well as 2 live crew. When a batch got in your car, they listened and nodded to what you were plying. Usually something they knew nothing about, but that respect they had for you MADE them wanna hear what you had.

nikkas stopped being leaders and started following these hoes! So really you can't be mad at the birds...birds follow the nikka they fukkin with.

I wanna place a big responsibility on the black label owners and rappers who made it big, for not taking that next step and securing hip hop as a black multi - billion dollar business. Guys like puff, j. Prince, russell, etc., should have BEEN clique up and formed distribution chains etc. They should have been formed an all black label and monopolize hip hop for us. Instead, they continue to allow cacs to make the most from hip hop.

If ever I get the ear of one of these rich rappers tho...I'm going to present a way we can recapture hip hop and bring this baby home. I also want to contact Dr. Claud with this because he's trying to bring wealth to the black community.

:lawd:

Nowadays, everything is catered to hoes and they still mad.
 

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Damn I remember Mase saying in interview way back that Big L and someone else used to steal the shyt he used to spit when they ciphered at the park or something of that nature... when I hear this old mase freestyle it convinces me that he wasn't bullshyttin, dude would of been neck and neck with nas had he stuck to his guns.

Another thing, Mase had nikkas thinking he was slow or something when its clearly obvious now that he is far from slow and after hearing that freestyle i'd assume he had what it took to be the Best MC in NYC.


I don't believe him on the big l, thing at all.
as he is a piece of shyt, and has always done a lot of culturally wrong bullshyt for sensationalism.
yet, mase was nasty as fukk.
before he dumbed down to the corky from life goes on, gargles puff's whizz juice in his mouth flow.


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still dont understand how females would or could make u like songs or point u in the direction tho /:dahell: dont u guys find music on your own or what?
 

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still dont understand how females would or could make u like songs or point u in the direction tho /:dahell: dont u guys find music on your own or what?
my father always told me boy if I catch you lying, I can be 90 and old and feeble, but if youre lying im gonna crack your mouth open. not only are most of these rappers faking it, the listeners too. but is it a bad thing to fake it? I honestly dont know anymore. either this is the beginning of an evolution or the demise of a culture.
 

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still dont understand how females would or could make u like songs or point u in the direction tho /:dahell: dont u guys find music on your own or what?

Lemme show...

What reason would a grown man have for riding round to songs like laffy taffy, stinky leg, or any other bullshyt, bytches song? I've seen nikkas switch co's when they get close to some birds. So basically nikkas are catering to them hoes.

It used be a bytch wouldn't even expect no real man to dance with them to some bullshyt ass song. Now...nikkas beat the hoes to the dance floor...:wow:
 

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Lemme show...

What reason would a grown man have for riding round to songs like laffy taffy, stinky leg, or any other bullshyt, bytches song? I've seen nikkas switch co's when they get close to some birds. So basically nikkas are catering to them hoes.

It used be a bytch wouldn't even expect no real man to dance with them to some bullshyt ass song. Now...nikkas beat the hoes to the dance floor...:wow:

cause they like the songs? i dunno but no female as made me like a song

i see what you're saying tho
 

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my father always told me boy if I catch you lying, I can be 90 and old and feeble, but if youre lying im gonna crack your mouth open. not only are most of these rappers faking it, the listeners too. but is it a bad thing to fake it? I honestly dont know anymore. either this is the beginning of an evolution or the demise of a culture.

:ohhh:

id say most rap listeners hop from wagon to wagon
 

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oh for sure....
as he exactly knew who and what he was as an emcee, culturally.
this is not like some southern rap artist.
who never really partook or had the cultural connection.
or some Midwest guy who never had experience or know how culturally.
since, nas the herald does adhere to the culture.
in the mecca, of hiphop.
the thinking became,...
sheit,..I don't either...
if nas says fukk hiphop, by his actions.

I can front on hiphop.
whenever and however, I want to.
which became the idealogy and mantra nas set, and is fully eroding the voice of the impoverished.
into a minstrel parody based bullshyt show.
that only encompasses one economic business from one pillar, which is rap.


this is nas.
the herald and protégé of:

large professor

the same large professor, who made fake'n the funk.
amoung other cultural line drawn in the sand style mantra records.
the same large professor, that was aligned with the producers of organized confusion.
where nas bit, I gave you power.
then, acted like he never knew about organized.
when, organized had a follow up.
to a highly certified high quality classic, just as nas during 1994.
nas, is the guy who was put on by serch.
the same serch, who smacked up a foam hammer, and dissed vanilla ice.

after, nas gave away the cultural blueprint to credible emcee'n.
rap has and may never be the same.
the exact reason why guys like jayz, and others of the jiggy sellout nature.
got to draw, on a larger level.
when originally they were landlocked sales wise being ny artist.
plus, were culturally never cosignable as artist.
is nas, and others in his cultural company.
sold out the culture to the highest bidder.
in the exact moment that hiphop as a culture was being marketed and given the main template to marketing products in America in 1996, from leo burnett.

if nas, would have stuck to his guns, and the culture.
he was destined to blow up, regardless.
as he was in the prime cultural position as a key figure head in the draw of rap.

when he sold out,...
he eliminated other artist from having traction.
who were also, culturally right there with him as well.

when he sold out,...
it allowed the flood gate of toys to attempt and now succeed.

originally, when biting was outlawed.
a guy like mic Geronimo biting nas never had much traction.
after nas sold out,...anyone who followed the jiggy blueprint to now.
after the death of biggie and pac,..
which, took out the white people's TWO and shattered the glass ceiling.
can have drawing traction with no cultural responsibility.

so, a guy like mic Geronimo back in the day.
biting nas, and failing with puff.
now, is j cole, biting nas as a jayz troll joke.
similar to heath slater and 3mb being a troll joke of chris Jericho's fozzy.
cole, is aligned with the jiggy jigga, and has traction.
plus, able to fake as a fukkin biter filled toy.
all because he sounds and bites nas.
on a major label level, that fakes the funk.
when, aligning with jayz.
after, jay's fool the culture run.
along with puff's fool the culture pr, run in the 40th anniversary of hiphop.

yet, since...
the culture, it's protection mechanisms, and significance was destroyed.
you have toys able to market toys as being culturally aware.
when it is a fukk'n lie and a farce.
nas, knows he is behind it.

that is why a record like:

who killed't it, exist by nas.

nas is the darth vader of rap.
the evil annakin skywalker,...emotionally despondent from his own lack of cultural responsibility.
on top of a failure to appear at shows, and lowly performance skill on stage.
taking it out on every one, else from his own issues.
then, blaming them on the source.

like, Anakin did in starwars.
when, he killed his princess of the universe.
then, deflected it on to everyone else.
backed by the sith lords, steve stout and puff.

nas, is the worst.
before nas, fully sold out writing will smith sellout records, and hate me now.
the culture had some resistance, to the poison of jiggy-ism.

after nas, sold out,..
the culture had no new gen herald.
plus, had to look at the new gen herald completely sell it out.
for, the exact riches that he accused jayz of, ether.

nas, is a hide your hands face ass nikka.....
if you know the exact history, and lived it.

you know the truth.

the people who are resistant.
are the mtv convoy of non-culturally aware fans.
who were fooled by mtv saturation marketing of if I ruled the world.
the same cultural sellout saturation marketing that began with naughty by nature's, ghetto b*stard.




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= arguably the best remix in rap history.




"having hard times writing rhymes"
so he knows all my metaphors and dines on my lines

and copiers,...
so i'm corona bound




I hate a rhyme biters rhyme.

I agree with you on a lot of things but this one I gotta disagree with. Nas saw his peers getting money, while he was still struggling, Steve stout came with a plan to help him get money, it worked, and that's how things turned out. We know he wasn't happy with this because he spoke on it in his songs since stillmatic dropped. A lot of people would do the same if that opportunity presented itself. I remember he said some where he didn't have new clothes to wear to the source awards because he went through all his money, and was damn near broke. Imagine everyone loving you in a city big as NY, and you can barely afford to live, while everyone else is average and eating like kings?. What needs to be done is hip hop needs to take control of the commercial aspects so the money can circulate within the community. Just calling someone a sellout for trying to gain money through commercial appeal is why people stopped giving props to the underground because if I need to eat and live, the only way to do it effectively and efficiently is commercially.

To me Nas still didn't sell out completely while he was doing those things because he still spoke about things that those who loved hip hop and those who didn't have a lot of money could relate to. Then he made up for selling out for years to come after stillmatic so nas is cool with me.
 

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id say most rap listeners hop from wagon to wagon
because they aren't real fans. to some, rap is a genre, to others it is a culture and way of life. I grew up expecting the opening bars to resonate. look at that war ready song. ross said when he was 17 he was moving them thangs for 17. when you hear garbage like that you know these would suck dikk if it was socially accepted.
 

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I agree with you on a lot of things but this one I gotta disagree with. Nas saw his peers getting money, while he was still struggling, Steve stout came with a plan to help him get money, it worked, and that's how things turned out. We know he wasn't happy with this because he spoke on it in his songs since stillmatic dropped. A lot of people would do the same if that opportunity presented itself. I remember he said some where he didn't have new clothes to wear to the source awards because he went through all his money, and was damn near broke. Imagine everyone loving you in a city big as NY, and you can barely afford to live, while everyone else is average and eating like kings?. What needs to be done is hip hop needs to take control of the commercial aspects so the money can circulate within the community. Just calling someone a sellout for trying to gain money through commercial appeal is why people stopped giving props to the underground because if I need to eat and live, the only way to do it effectively and efficiently is commercially.

To me Nas still didn't sell out completely while he was doing those things because he still spoke about things that those who loved hip hop and those who didn't have a lot of money could relate to. Then he made up for selling out for years to come after stillmatic so nas is cool with me.



first,...
nas did not get money.
as he no-showed his shows from 94-96.
to the point....

in 94, nas no-showed congress, and the Alcatraz, in Chicago alone.
two venues everyone from krs, wu, even africka bambatta and the entire Zulu fuc'n nation appeared at.
where I still have the promo posters of: krs and wu

in 1996, common had to fill in for him as the host at the DePaul show.
that, even az actually showed up for and rocked.
then, an unpaid common went to rock as a performer.
plus, unveiled and debuted the acapella version of :

THE ICE CUBE DISS ; bytch IN YOO

so, spare me the talk about why he did not have money.
nas did not have money, because he did not fulfill his duty as a performer and his booking, consistently.
also, the missed shows in Chicago were not the only ones nationally.

next,..he aligned with steve stout.
whom was already known as a cultural business scourge.
so, that is also another note on top of the other points and facts.
you would like to deflect on.
you are doing nuffin but creating a pass system.
the same pass system and sentiments,..
I already spoke on that have created the exact erosion.
that plagues the rap business and limited the creation of culturally sound economy and bboy/bgirls.


stop deflecting and creating a narcissistic brain trust for your agenda.

nas is a sellout, period.
how are melle mel, and Curtis blow sellouts in the old school way of thought.
where nas is a newschool artist subscribing to old school and new school ways of thought that were clearly outlined as selling out.
then, you trying to come give a pass.

if that is the case, then go create a large draw and resurrect the career of melle mel, bdk, and others.

it won't happen as they are entrenched as non-draws from their acts.

the only reason nas is still a draw is .
he was apart of an mtv pr blitz for if I ruled the world.
where the introduction of hiphop as the template for marketing worldwide had taken over.

if not for leo burnett taking marketing global for the culture.
nas, would be non-defunct like those before him.
the only people giving nas a pass.
are his fanbase who were duped in that pr blitz of, if I ruled the world.
if you run into a real bboy.
who keeps it all the way real and live.
they will tell you the real.
just as I have:



art barr
 
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first,...
nas did not get money.
as he no-showed his shows from 94-96.
to the point....

in 94, he no-showed congress, and the Alcatraz, in Chicago alone.
two venues everyone from krs, wu, even africka bambatta and the entire Zulu fuc'n nation appeared at.
where I still have the promo posters of: krs and wu

in 1996, common had to fill in for him as the host at the DePaul show.
then, an unpaid common went to rock as a performer.
plus, unveiled and debuted the acapella version of :

THE ICE CUBE DISS ; bytch IN YOO

so, spare me the talk about why he did not have money.
nas did not have money, because he did not fulfill his duty as a performer and his booking, consistently.
also, the missed shows in Chicago were not the only ones nationally.

next,..he aligned with steve stout.
whom was already known as a cultural business scourge.
so, that is also another note on top of the other points and facts.
you would like to deflect on.
you are doing nuffin but creating a pass system.
the same pass system and sentiments,..
I already spoke on that have created the exact erosion.
that plagues the rap business and limited the creation of culturally sound economy and bboy/bgirls.


stop deflecting and creating a narcissistic brain trust for your agenda.

nas is a sellout, period.
how are melle mel, and Curtis blow sellouts in the old school way of thought.
where nas is a newschool artist subscribing to old school and new school ways of thought that were clearly outlined as selling out.
then, you trying to come give a pass.

if that is the case, then go create a large draw and resurrect the career of melle mel, bdk, and others.

it won't happen as they are entrenched as non-draws from their acts.

the only reason nas is still a draw is .
he was apart of an mtv pr blitz for if I ruled the world.
where the introduction of hiphop as the template for marketing worldwide had taken over.

if not for leo burnett taking marketing global for the culture.
nas, would be non-defunct like those before him.
the only people giving nas a pass.
are his fanbase who were duped in that pr blitz of, if I ruled the world.
if you run into a real bboy.
who keeps it all the way real and live.
they will tell you the real.
just as I have:



art barr

U strict when it comes to this hiphop shyt bruh.
 
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