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Hip Hop was the 1st time in America where stereotypes of Blackfolks were self inflicted
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Your from Canada.
In the early 90's...Hearing Geto Boys and Kool G Rap spit pure evil out of their mouths in the form of lyrics was kind of like a new thing so in a way it got a pass. It was a rarity to hear a rapper talking about rapping a woman while robbing a train(Train Robbery by Kool G Rap)...But once everyone started spitting evil the appeal was lost and it didnt become rare anymore. Cuban Linx = selling coke..master P = selling Coke...ok rapping about coke has been done lets focus on being a lil more creative...LOX = selling coke..The Clipse = selling coke...Jeezy The Snowman = selling coke...Gotdamn we still rapping about selling coke in 2005??
....But it didnt stop there.......Seeing Rick Ross with his pants hanging off his ass at the BET awards years ago brought me to the realization that Hip Hop is not going to help improve our image at all and there needs to be some sort of counter alternative.
PhonZhi
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Hiphop/media is playing a large role in our own division and lack of unity. Its a large reason we view each other as the enemy/threat, instead of each others brother and sister. Its a large reason why some blacks would rather live around and spend $$$ at white establishments. Hiphop culture is killing the way we view ourselves. Its killing our image. The black image is a fukking joke because of hiphop culture
PhonZhi
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Plies is back in the limelight because he's acting like the stereotypical buffoon glorifying criminal activity:
Sad part is that Plies is smart and college educated, but hiphop culture glorifies being ignorant
Sad part is that Plies is smart and college educated, but hiphop culture glorifies being ignorant
Sure it exists but its not hip hops fault. Stop blaming black people and our culture.
You ever read Fredikk Douglas? That first chapter is.
Slavery fukked us up. Not hip hop.
Stop posting youtube videos blood. I dont respect these phony hotep nikkas.
OK....But after slavery we had the Black wallstreet (which was destroyed but later rebuilt only to be destroyed internally)and jazz music. And by that time we were looking on the up and up despite the laws of the land being on that jim crow BS.
How does it look with the strain of Jim Crow now removed our current most influential musical artform is where it is?? How do u explain that....Slavery still had 80's rappers like The Fat Boys who were from Brownsville rapping about having fun and partying. Hammer had Black folks on some 'get on the floor and dance" shyt. Where did this 180 leap in the 90's come from??
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Im just saying we been getting stereotyped since the beginning. Even jazz artists were stereotyped as weed smokers in zoot suits.
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
Blaxploitation movies
Rudy Ray Moore
Redd Foxx
Donald Goines
Iceberg Slim/Robert Beck
Funk was the original soundtrack to gang culture.
Gang culture existed before hip hop
Murder rates were in the 1000s in major cities like Chicago and NYC
/thread.
Rudy Ray Moore
Redd Foxx
Donald Goines
Iceberg Slim/Robert Beck
Funk was the original soundtrack to gang culture.
Gang culture existed before hip hop
Murder rates were in the 1000s in major cities like Chicago and NYC
/thread.
Read the Autobiography of Fredrick Douglass then get back at me.
That 1st chapter will wake ya game up my nikka. The similarities are surreal.
And stop caring about what these white folks think or portray.
Ya pro black but you care about our "image" in the media.
This isn't true. Before Hip Hop, there were blaxploixation films. You had films like The Mack and Superfly. You could argue that these films painted Black people in a negative light.
On top of that, people who stereotype aren't stereotyping because Blacks present themselves in a certain light. Stereotypes are formed based on the experiences and perceptions of the person doing the stereotyping. In essence, people will stereotype regardless of what a person does. A Black man in a suit is still viewed in the same light as a Black man wearing a hoodie by a person who stereotypes Black men as thugs or gangsters.
On top of that, people who stereotype aren't stereotyping because Blacks present themselves in a certain light. Stereotypes are formed based on the experiences and perceptions of the person doing the stereotyping. In essence, people will stereotype regardless of what a person does. A Black man in a suit is still viewed in the same light as a Black man wearing a hoodie by a person who stereotypes Black men as thugs or gangsters.
Social Engineering.
You think the ghetto was created on a fluke? nikka this shyt was planned.
But again its nikkas fault right? We gotsta do better.
Thats why Foxy and Kim cant really make a comeback like they want....all that ho rap shyt they were doing worked when they were young but its still looked down on the the community if you all old and still on it like that.....an old ho is never a good look, perfect example Vanessa Delrio looking like she really needs to go someowhere with that bullshyt. Or how Vanity had to turn religious because you cant age on some ho sh*t and hold ya head up high.
This is true....But like Immortal Tech said....can you speak about selling drugs creatively?? "Mind Playing Tricks On Me" by Geto Boys was a drug dealer/user rap song that was straight up and down creative as fukk lyrically and it speaks on the realistic consequences of selling/using dope. "Move That Dope" by Future is a drug dealer rap song that is not creative lyrically and is all over the place with its story telling. Both songs lure you in with a dope beat but one song is a more realistic take on American culture while the other is just wreckless words over a dope beat.
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"Hip Hop was the 1st time in America where stereotypes of Blackfolks were self inflicted"
OP makes some great points, but regarding the quoted title of this thread, I think the first time black people started to internalize stereotypes is when we took the n-word and claim it as our own. When people talk about that like it was some type of power move I always cringe. That was the lowest form of verbal abuse that the white man inflicted on our ancestors, and the LAST word a lot of them heard before they were killed. To take that and to incorporate it into our culture the way that we have I think has become so detrimental. Post integration is when it started to become most dangerous, and harmful to us. We now live in a time where white and black kids feel so comfortable around one another that the word gets thrown around like nothing. I would argue that, in terms of entertainment, hiphop music is a huge issue. I would also argue that the n-word, at this point, is THE issue. Again, I'm talking in terms of entertainment.
OP makes some great points, but regarding the quoted title of this thread, I think the first time black people started to internalize stereotypes is when we took the n-word and claim it as our own. When people talk about that like it was some type of power move I always cringe. That was the lowest form of verbal abuse that the white man inflicted on our ancestors, and the LAST word a lot of them heard before they were killed. To take that and to incorporate it into our culture the way that we have I think has become so detrimental. Post integration is when it started to become most dangerous, and harmful to us. We now live in a time where white and black kids feel so comfortable around one another that the word gets thrown around like nothing. I would argue that, in terms of entertainment, hiphop music is a huge issue. I would also argue that the n-word, at this point, is THE issue. Again, I'm talking in terms of entertainment.
PhonZhi
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This is exactly the problem yall
Everyone cares about and protects their image except us
