Hip Hop Really Deserves to Die At This Point
- Thread starter Awesome Wells
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I don't see how any mature minded black adult haven't BEEN becoming less and less interested in hip-hop.
I grew up damn near obsessed with rap music but I started feeling differently about it about a decade ago.
The content alone started making me, especially when damn near every song started referencing poppin percs/xans and sipping lean
Most rap music has become extremely anti -black in nature and the entire genre reminds me of Minstrel Shows of the past.....an artform broadcasting the worse stereotypes of black people to the world.
I barely listen to rap now...it doesn't align with my spirit anymore even down to the language...I prefer my music profanity and Nword free now.
Generally speaking, rap music has become pure mental & spiritual poison.
I hear you.
But you remind me of these construction dudes who are like fukk hip hop. You gonna be a kid forever?
Uh yes!
I earn my money, I'm educated. Both me and my girl rock hip hop fashion in our 40s.
I don't give a fukk. I'm not going to subscribe to no grown and sexy life.
We're passionate about our music.
I have old friends with families that are negative, dead, and alcoholics. Like that's better than having a passionate hip hop life.
I've seen ppl die with terrible lives.
Hip hop is colorful and vibrant.
If ppl aren't passionate about rap in their 40s good for them.
Listen to Country. That's cool too.
But Wu and Krs is literally forever if you understand the lessons underneath.
No disrespect to @MasterThought
But @CrimsonTider thank you for being so fast and blunt with that response.
I know you love hip hop.
Thank you for that.
Ty Daniels
Superstar
Modern Hip Hop, has become a Vehicle for BLACK GENOCIDE!
YOU ARE NOT BLACK, YOU HAVE ZERO FUKKIN BUSINESS,"THANKING"
Someone for Being Disrespectful to a Breh, RIGHTFULLY POINTING OUT ANTI-BLACK MUSIC.
You are a "Guest" in OUR CULTURE.
I DON'T CARE THAT "YOU RAP", OR "LOVE HIP HOP".
Modern Hip Hop, has become a Vehicle for BLACK GENOCIDE!
YOU ARE NOT BLACK, YOU HAVE ZERO FUKKIN BUSINESS,"THANKING"
Someone for Being Disrespectful to a Breh, RIGHTFULLY POINTING OUT ANTI-BLACK MUSIC.
You are a "Guest" in OUR CULTURE.
I DON'T CARE THAT "YOU RAP", OR "LOVE HIP HOP".
Okay. I hear you. I know about the psychological warfare. I am for life so I apologize if you took offence.
I was more bothered by the "grown/mature" side of things where hip hop is shunned to the point once fans stop listening to it altogether. That's where I took issue. Nas and Onyx keep leading the way with tours and new music while alot of older heads quit.
TheWiseWon
Pro
This is what happens when artists move algorithmically instead of organically. When the game migrated to clicks, cultural influence shifted from music to content. Now, the consumer is at fault too because there is no demand for lyricism or creativity on the mainstream level. So, discourse surrounds the artist, but not the art.
"Having no talent is the new talent." - Murda Mook
Attention spans will continue to worsen, so music itself will likely undergo a fundamental change via AI.
"Having no talent is the new talent." - Murda Mook
Attention spans will continue to worsen, so music itself will likely undergo a fundamental change via AI.
Maximus Rex
Superstar
Yall oldheads gonna be alright, yall can continue your talks about the final hours of what happened at The ROC
no one is gonna take that away from you
no one is gonna take that away from you
Heavy_Handz
Superstar
Agree with everything said. It’s sad how many phony people there all across all social media platforms that thrive because of the destruction of the foundation of the culture. That’s life. It’s like with kids and sports. You can’t talk sports with these kids like back in the day. They just watch highlights. Same thing goes for Hip-Hop they just skim the surface for the easy shyt to talk about trying to go viral. shyt is a disease.
Abstract83
Superstar
I use to argue this Hip-Hop shyt with my boys until I was blue in the face. Some yrs back I got to the point where I just said fukk it they can have it. I just bump my goats and classic albums. Plus the mixes that I make and call it a day. There's no use in arguing an objective opinion to these die hard casual fans. With all this going on I agreed with Nas when he said Hip-Hop Is Dead back in 06. I truly feel that now.This ain't what we signed up for back in the day.
One week, we got dudes apologizing for making diss records and pulling them off of platforms because it wasn't in their heart to do it. Few days later, fools are talking about how dudes don’t even write most of their songs and how "it doesn't matter" because "that's not how records are made today". Literally doubling down on how "lyricism doesn't mean anything today".
Then we got fake manufactured beef that got these bums using AI for diss tracks now, and R&B singers releasing diss tracks. If you look at most of the threads on here, damn near all of them are about drama and some beauty salon gossip sh*t about rappers "beefing", and how so-and-so on whatever podcast thinks this and that about it. And in between all of those millions of threads, you'll catch the occasional "rappers on trial" thread, with all the couch attorneys we have on here predicting how much time dudes will serve or not serve.
The difference between now and the old SOHH days, is that nobody actually talks about the music anymore. Look at how trash the culture has become. This sh*t is like Basketball Wives. The losers, casuals and posers are running the damn asylum now. The standard is so low, that nobody even seems to notice that wackness is the new normal. All the rules and criteria that Hip Hop was built on has been tossed in the bushes so that the corny and less-knowledgable can function in this sh*t. And the problem with the OG's and the older fans, is that everyone is too scared to call it out because they don’t want to be called "old" or "haters".
The situation with Mos Def is a perfect example. Dude told the truth, but then he got scared that he was looking bitter, so he tried to scale it back. Every OG who sits back and is scared to call out this bullsh*t, that's been allowed to change this culture, is a sucka and has failed Hip Hop. Legends with mad classic albums are scared to call certain sh*t wack because they're scared of how their honest opinion is going to make them look. They're ALL mad quiet now. Back in the day, if you thought some sh*t was wack, you just said it. You got old ass dudes on here who are scared to call out sh*t because they don’t want to get flamed for being older, as if that's a bad thing. The damn culture is shambles. And if you don’t think there's people who are from outside the community, who manufactured this shift and are making mad money off this decline in the culture, then you're an idiot.
Long story short, Hip Hop seriously needs to be destroyed and rebuilt. Because all of the forced drama, antics and mediocrity that's become "normal" and gets a pass all day everyday, is not even close to what real Hip Hop looks like. And the more people stay silent and play along with it, just to fit in and hide their real opinions, the more we have to deal with the gentrified version of what was created for the people 50 years ago.
You can't have an opinion without being called old and a hater like you said. You have to be 100% with or against the artist. This fake as cancel culture that's going on. This shyt is really just gossip and drama.
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Nas was wrong then and you’re wrong now
Abstract83
Superstar
If you say so smh
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
The thing about the hair bands of the 80's and Whitney when the community was criticizing her, was that both her and a lot of the bands were making classic and great music during the time when they caught mad heat. But the Whitney example, back when they booed her for basically not "keeping it real" shows how much authenticity mattered to the people back then. You had to check every box back then. No one was allowed to get over. Even when the talent was GOAT level and the music was good! So what's going on today is a mad embarrassment.
So this might actually be the beginning of the end, like you said. Which is why we need to see how trash this culture can get if we don’t get back to overseeing this sh*t the way we used to, and exiling all wackness the minute we see it trying to sneak in and get active.
Once you commidify culture it's going to die a slow death. People understood this which is why you had rappers dissing Hammer. It's why EPMD made Crossover. It's why De La was saying "it might blow up but it won't go pop."
Eventually the machine always wins. The money and desire for popularity will outweigh purism. You just gotta embrace the artists that stay true to the culture. The one good thing about this era is that the internet has allowed the underground to thrive and be profitable.