Hip Hop Really Deserves to Die At This Point
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Rembrandt
the artist
Mastamimd
Ain't shyt
We’ve been hearing it non-stop from rock fans since 97’. Jazz, even longer than that. Black pop has been sashaying around in R&B’s rotten, tattered flesh for decades.
It is what it is. Genres pop up, sub-genres appear, genres die, new genres come along. I’ve experienced more hip-hop than some adults have been alive. I’m okay with it dying off and the youth picking up something new that they’re actually passionate about and believe in.
Since 97? Hair metal bands were shytted on hard in the 80s so bad Kurt Cobain swang the block on them in 92 recursively. Whitney Houston was called Whitey Houston and was an actual punchline in the 80s.
Everything comes to an end, and I even tweeted last year that we're seeing the beginning of the end. shyts been so stale a rap beef of veterans is what it took to wake shyt up...look at what it became. We genuinely thought it'd be about who's the best rapper. Ha.
lol funny enough rap is in its “hair/glam metal cycle now
Mastamimd
Ain't shyt
I'll say the snap era was that...it's in its nu metal phase. A phase where the genre has no idea where it wants to go evolution wise so they're doing crappy fusions with so many genres(with the help of autotune) that people are saying is "innovative"... unfortunately the music is awful.
Source and XXL(and Rap Pages,Murder Dog etc) arent without their Respective fukkeries but at least they had good Journalists that covered more than just Mainstream Hip Hop..now we got TSR,Baller Alert & Spiritual Word
This ain't what we signed up for back in the day.
One week, we got dudes apologizing for making diss records and pulling them off of platforms because it wasn't in their heart to do it. Few days later, fools are talking about how dudes don’t even write most of their songs and how "it doesn't matter" because "that's not how records are made today". Literally doubling down on how "lyricism doesn't mean anything today".
Then we got fake manufactured beef that got these bums using AI for diss tracks now, and R&B singers releasing diss tracks. If you look at most of the threads on here, damn near all of them are about drama and some beauty salon gossip sh*t about rappers "beefing", and how so-and-so on whatever podcast thinks this and that about it. And in between all of those millions of threads, you'll catch the occasional "rappers on trial" thread, with all the couch attorneys we have on here predicting how much time dudes will serve or not serve.
The difference between now and the old SOHH days, is that nobody actually talks about the music anymore. Look at how trash the culture has become. This sh*t is like Basketball Wives. The losers, casuals and posers are running the damn asylum now. The standard is so low, that nobody even seems to notice that wackness is the new normal. All the rules and criteria that Hip Hop was built on has been tossed in the bushes so that the corny and less-knowledgable can function in this sh*t. And the problem with the OG's and the older fans, is that everyone is too scared to call it out because they don’t want to be called "old" or "haters".
The situation with Mos Def is a perfect example. Dude told the truth, but then he got scared that he was looking bitter, so he tried to scale it back. Every OG who sits back and is scared to call out this bullsh*t, that's been allowed to change this culture, is a sucka and has failed Hip Hop. Legends with mad classic albums are scared to call certain sh*t wack because they're scared of how their honest opinion is going to make them look. They're ALL mad quiet now. Back in the day, if you thought some sh*t was wack, you just said it. You got old ass dudes on here who are scared to call out sh*t because they don’t want to get flamed for being older, as if that's a bad thing. The damn culture is shambles. And if you don’t think there's people who are from outside the community, who manufactured this shift and are making mad money off this decline in the culture, then you're an idiot.
Long story short, Hip Hop seriously needs to be destroyed and rebuilt. Because all of the forced drama, antics and mediocrity that's become "normal" and gets a pass all day everyday, is not even close to what real Hip Hop looks like. And the more people stay silent and play along with it, just to fit in and hide their real opinions, the more we have to deal with the gentrified version of what was created for the people 50 years ago.
I hear your frustration. Things should be better.
Know that Hip Hop never "deserves" to die - and it will never die. Never in my world at least.
I will naturally be listening to classics and making hip hop untill I'm 110 years old. More if I die after. Till death.
I'm committed to it, and it's a natural commitment.
fukk what's popular and what they "show" us.
Just listen to Kool G Rap's 4,5,6 and you'll be good.
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Mac Ten
Class of 97 !!!
I don't see how any mature minded black adult haven't BEEN becoming less and less interested in hip-hop.
I grew up damn near obsessed with rap music but I started feeling differently about it about a decade ago.
The content alone started making me
, especially when damn near every song started referencing poppin percs/xans and sipping lean
Most rap music has become extremely anti -black in nature and the entire genre reminds me of Minstrel Shows of the past.....an artform broadcasting the worse stereotypes of black people to the world.
I barely listen to rap now...it doesn't align with my spirit anymore even down to the language...I prefer my music profanity and Nword free now.
Generally speaking, rap music has become pure mental & spiritual poison.
I grew up damn near obsessed with rap music but I started feeling differently about it about a decade ago.
The content alone started making me
, especially when damn near every song started referencing poppin percs/xans and sipping lean Most rap music has become extremely anti -black in nature and the entire genre reminds me of Minstrel Shows of the past.....an artform broadcasting the worse stereotypes of black people to the world.
I barely listen to rap now...it doesn't align with my spirit anymore even down to the language...I prefer my music profanity and Nword free now.
Generally speaking, rap music has become pure mental & spiritual poison.
FeverPitch2
Superstar
Nah, all you fossils need to die. Old heads ruined this planet and left us to fix shyt and fend for ourselves, then we stuck you in retirement homes and now you bitter and waving your fists at the passing cars through the screen door. Sit down on that bench and feed the birds old man
Typical bullshyt knee jerk rebuttal because people don't want to acknowledge how far the music and culture have fallen and they especially don't want to own their acceptance of such wackness and mediocrity as the one of the main reasons for that downfall.
Instead of presenting a factual, logic based counter argument, they just spit out baseless insults from the dusty ass peanut gallery.
Nice work, jim.
Ignore mfs like this in these conversations. They have nothing of substance to contribute.
FeverPitch2
Superstar
Hip hop was ALWAYS dope. The past has forever classics, if you look and seek in the present you will find dope new hip hop. Pras complained about "hope everyone is sick of sucking dikk in 1995" in the liner notes for a Fugees album...only for 95 to be a great year in rap. Ppl thought hip hop was dead in 2000, 05, 10, 15. Looking at myself, it's where I decided to look.
And the future, we can expect great things from our active favorites.
Or again - go back to the classics. You can analyze and write papers on them. I did that for Ice Cubes Amerikkas most wanted, Big Puns capital Pun, and Breaking Atoms. You can dig in.
AND classics hit you different when your in your 30s and 40s. They actually fukk your head up.
I recently revisited Supreme Clientele and that album has been wrecking my brain for weeks now. The discipline of Ghost against that wild crackhead in that skit - that's a lesson. That's about not losing your cool - but the craziest thing is - it's Ghostface!!!!
And the future, we can expect great things from our active favorites.
Or again - go back to the classics. You can analyze and write papers on them. I did that for Ice Cubes Amerikkas most wanted, Big Puns capital Pun, and Breaking Atoms. You can dig in.
AND classics hit you different when your in your 30s and 40s. They actually fukk your head up.
I recently revisited Supreme Clientele and that album has been wrecking my brain for weeks now. The discipline of Ghost against that wild crackhead in that skit - that's a lesson. That's about not losing your cool - but the craziest thing is - it's Ghostface!!!!
StfuI don't see how any mature minded black adult haven't BEEN becoming less and less interested in hip-hop.
I grew up damn near obsessed with rap music but I started feeling differently about it about a decade ago.
The content alone started making me
Most rap music has become extremely anti -black in nature and the entire genre reminds me of Minstrel Shows of the past.....an artform broadcasting the worse stereotypes of black people to the world.
I barely listen to rap now...it doesn't align with my spirit anymore even down to the language...I prefer my music profanity and Nword free now.
Generally speaking, rap music has become pure mental & spiritual poison.