“Hip Hop Came From Dancehall” Topic Came Up On The Breakfast Club
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you tryna argue with Chuck?
why didn't he see things exactly your way? now he's a Pan African?
Yall should be having this conversation in the middle of the bronx and have a real conversation with the OGs and also bring in the Jamaican fam.
The problem is people eating off Black Americans then wanting to gatekeep or box us out. Then just flat out lying. You could go to the source and ask Herc.
you tryna argue with Chuck?
why didn't he see things exactly your way?
Herc said he didn't. Chuck made a documentary where they admit it wasn't a Jamaican or Caribbean thing.
He's contradicting himself.
Has nothing to do with what I'm saying or trying to say.
spliz
SplizThaDon
nikka Chuck D ain’t infallible. Hip hop DID NOT COME FROM JAMAICA AT ALL. It has ZERO roots in Jamaica. Do u understand this? fukking KOOL HERC can admit this. Get over it.you tryna argue with Chuck?
why didn't he see things exactly your way? now he's a Pan African?
do you think that hip hop having or not having other influences changes it being a Black American art form?
We respected Jim Brown too lol
I would never say that. fukk you lol. Foundation though? Come on now. You got lessons all in this thread.
And DANCEHALL "nikka"??? DANCEHALL???? Stop
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
hey if Jamaican music is American then Blues is African.
makes sense to me
otherwise let's stop moving goal posts when it suits us.
your logic doesn't add up:
Jamaicans didn't look within their own creole culture or inherited African roots to produce Ska: they looked to a whole other region (USA). Aframs doing in the 1930s what would later become Ska for Jamaicans in the 60s
spooky
Aframs looked within their own creole culture which includes their inherited African roots to produce the Blues
....these two situations couldn't be more different
i'm playing devils advocate for acronym gang because they claim that there is no Caribbean influence in American music but all the American influence in Caribbean music.
I don't think that Herc being from Jamaica changes the birthplace of hip hop no matter what his actual input was. And Chuck doesn't disagree.
I don’t get this post, what’s Chuck d got to do with it and what does pan Africanism got to do with people both Ados and particularly non ados crediting Jamaicans with the foundation of hip hop?
I don’t get the correlation.
your logic doesn't add up:
Jamaicans didn't look within their own creole culture or inherited African roots to produce Ska: they looked to a whole other region (USA). Aframs doing in the 1930s what would later become Ska for Jamaicans in the 60s
spooky
Aframs looked within their own creole culture which includes their inherited African roots to produce the Blues
....these two situations couldn't be more different
you talking in circles now. blues didn't come out of a vacuum and it's the foundation of everything to come... where do we draw the line... where it suits you?
It's a disservice to say ska was jacked directly from Motown, when Mento has always existed. I wont say it was influenced, but to say it was a flip on American music is not all the way true.
Mento is a style of Jamaican folk music that predates and has greatly influenced ska and reggae music. It is a fusion of African rhythmic elements and European elements, which reached peak popularity in the 1940s and 1950s
Plus all our music is coming from Africa, so are both Jamaicans and black.Americans culturally appropriating?
When is the cut off from who created what?
Mento is a style of Jamaican folk music that predates and has greatly influenced ska and reggae music. It is a fusion of African rhythmic elements and European elements, which reached peak popularity in the 1940s and 1950s
Plus all our music is coming from Africa, so are both Jamaicans and black.Americans culturally appropriating?
When is the cut off from who created what?
IllmaticDelta
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you tryna argue with Chuck?
why didn't he see things exactly your way? now he's a Pan African?
Chuck wasn't/isn't a pioneer to foundational HipHop.....he came along in the 1980s recorded music era. HipHop has been around since 1970/1971
Chuck is or was a Pan Africanists. They seem to let a lot of bullshyt fly when it comes to slander and leech behavior when it comes to Black Americans.
In what way are Jamaicans the foundation? Explain the dancehall connection .