“Hip Hop Came From Dancehall” Topic Came Up On The Breakfast Club

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

if we are going to do that then the blues is African in origin.

you can't pick and choose when to start and end date shyt to your liking

if you tryna take credit for Jamaican music then think about that. What is the blues sound?

On this website the acronym gang will say all Jamaican music is derived from America then you are all the same people in the Michael B Jordan thread mad that they got at him for his brand name being cultural appropriation. But here you are taking credit for everything Jamaica made

make sense of this shyt....

What is a "Jamaican" sound? Putting an accent on something doesn't make it a new genre.

It was AMERICAN IN ORIGIN.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Hip hop did come from dancehall but dancehall comes from Motown/stax music. Diaspora wars on the coli

negative

 

[King Sun]

negative

 

[JackRoss]

if we are going to do that then the blues is African in origin.

you can't pick and choose when to start and end date shyt to your liking

if you tryna take credit for Jamaican music then think about that. What is the blues sound?

On this website the acronym gang will say all Jamaican music is derived from America then you are all the same people in the Michael B Jordan thread mad that they got at him for his brand name being cultural appropriation. But here you are taking credit for everything Jamaica made

make sense of this shyt....

Michael B Jordan was an investor. He didn't trademark or come up with the name of the company or design. He was an investor and the face.

 

[tuckgod]

Go find a coconut, nikka.
1965

1968

 

[JackRoss]

Even out of Herc mouth and still pushing a lie

 

[mcellas]

Did Herc make a record or he just had the system and played the records?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

if we are going to do that then the blues is African in origin.

you can't pick and choose when to start and end date shyt to your liking

if you tryna take credit for Jamaican music then think about that. What is the blues sound?

On this website the acronym gang will say all Jamaican music is derived from America then you are all the same people in the Michael B Jordan thread mad that they got at him for his brand name being cultural appropriation. But here you are taking credit for everything Jamaica made

make sense of this shyt....

The difference is Ska originated as nothing more than afram R&B with a jamaican accent on the vocals. This 50s R&B song is 100% Ska before Jamaicans had a style of music called Ska



The two styles share an ancient tonality that Aframs inherited through slavery but there are no 12 bar blues with chord changes in Africa

Spoiler

Many West Africans, especially in Mali, heard blues on the radio or were exposed to it through Ali Farka Touré; this would certainly have been true in Segu, the center of Bamana culture where Kouyaté grew up. African radio programmers were naturally attracted to blues. They sensed something of themselves in it, likely because, as Kouyaté firmly believes, the Delta blues grew from traditions transported across the Atlantic by Bamana musicians sold as slaves. Listeners weren’t exactly blues aficionados, but you would be hard-pressed to find a Malian musician who does not know and love John Lee Hooker. Malian music, too, puts a premium on emotionally charged improvising, and early in his career Kouyaté experimented with bending notes and working blues ideas into his improvisations.

“Segu Blue,” the title track from Ngoni Ba’s debut album, is Kouyaté’s interpretation of an ancient and distinctly bluesy Bamana song, “Poyi,” and it offers a clear example of how easily he is able to interweave his inherited tradition with borrowings from American blues. It starts with Kouyaté improvising alone in a G-minor blues scale, with sudden note bursts and note bends. When the backing comes in, it unfolds as a rootsy blues, with Bassekou and his cousin Barou riffing within a single mode rather than following 12-bar or 8-bar progressions typical of American Delta blues. That preference for a modal, one-chord tonality, rather than a repeating chord structure, reflects a great deal of Malian, and particularly Bamana, traditional music. The soloists stir the blues and Bamana elements together: rapid trilling and hammer-on-pull-off phrases that incorporate chromatic notes not found in the straight pentatonic scale.

“Segu Blue (Poyi)”

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Did Herc make a record or he just had the system and played the records?

he just played funk records.........

 

[Deuterion]

These tethers I tell you...they want to talk for us on TV and then take our contributions...We need to be stomp down.

 

[Budda]

There is a plan in place. The "we all black" and Pan African shyt was terrible for us. shyts dead. Lies must be deaded as well.

This is nothing to do with Pan Africanism you stupid fukk

 

[Ake1725]

It's misinformation due to people lacking full knowledge of the straight-black male overground Disco culture/scene.

Dj Ron Plummer talks about battling another DJ and blasting him

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In fact, there are documented "battle" (the essence of a vz) traditions in all Afram pop music going back the Ragtime era. For example

1930s Jazz

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1960s Soul

Cutting contest

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Cutting contest

yes sir...cutting contest is of the same essence as a sound clash or a hiphop beef/diss track

 

[JackRoss]

This is nothing to do with Pan Africanism you stupid fukk

It shows the hypocrisy. There will never be black unity.



Why did he dispute or call out the lies? Pan Africanists have no interest in fixing Africa. They are interested in replacing the ones that have been putting up a fight in the belly of the beast. Black unity and Pan Africanism can't be achieved by gatekeeping all black cultures while looking to erase one. It's targeted and deliberate. I'm not blind. Please don't use OG's to support Pan Africanism.

It's clear as day that it's been a one sided affair.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

The difference is Ska originated as nothing more than afram R&B with a jamaican accent on the vocals. This 50s R&B song is 100% Ska before Jamaicans had a style of music called Ska



The two styles share an ancient tonality that Aframs inherited through slavery but there are no 12 bar blues with chord changes in Africa

Spoiler

“Segu Blue (Poyi)”

hey if Jamaican music is American then Blues is African.

makes sense to me

otherwise let's stop moving goal posts when it suits us.