“Hip Hop Came From Dancehall” Topic Came Up On The Breakfast Club

[frush11]

Arguably the Father of Boom Bap

And to add further, the most innovative producer in NYC Hip Hop got a Southern soul and roots his damn self….Otherwise he wouldn’t have made this:

You do a disservice to AA culture with statements like this. Yall have as much history in the North and South.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You do a disservice to AA culture with statements like this. Yall have as much history in the North and South.

Afram northern culture is rich but don't get it twisted: Afram Southern Culture is the father of the Northern one from a musical POV

 

[The Fade]

Reminds me when that white “jass” band claimed to create jazz because they were the first to record it (not to perform it) but everything they did was black because most of the time they were mocking black people

shid or even how them nirvana boys had to lowkey pay homage to black artists because nikkas did it first

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Arguably the Father of Boom Bap

And to add further, the most innovative producer in NYC Hip Hop got a Southern soul and roots his damn self….Otherwise he wouldn’t have made this:

RZA's people are from the Carolinas

WU-TANG: URBAN SOUND, BUILT ON CAROLINA DREAMS

Wu-Tang: Urban sound, built on Carolina dreams

 

[Unemployed GM]

Everybody that listened to dancehall and rap can tell they evolved from 2 different places. Back in the day a Jamaican into dancehall would have been embarrassed to even say something like this.

 

[Collateral]

If Hip Hop came from the carribean why can't none of them nikkaz rap for shyt

where the carribean Nas, Biggie, Pac, Rakim, Kanes, Run DMC, how come ain't no carribean artist ran shyt, where does this influence come from, it ain't in the damn music

James Brown drum loops the backbone of hip hop, where is this dancehall bullshyt come from

You do realize Biggie and a lot of other rappers are from carribean descent right?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You do realize Biggie and a lot of other rappers are from carribean descent right?

but they're americanized/grew up in ADOS pop culture. He means straight from the island/within island culture

 

[Deuterion]

A good analogue to this is Reggaeton, that shyt didn't start in Puerto Rico, it started in Panama and you have all types of records that pre-date anything in Puerto Rico proving that it started there. You can hear dembow and all that in the earlier cuts and then Puerto Ricans took Rap from Black Americans and added it on top of the beat.



The point is, Reggaeton started in Panama and you can literally hear it in the music. You can't hear nothing in Jamaica that sounds like the precursor to Rap buuuut you sure can in Black American music. Pigmeat Markham was straight up spitting in 1968...Grandmaster Flash actually bit that nikka style if we being honest.

This is nothing but tether babble.

 

[Master Teacher]

You do realize Biggie and a lot of other rappers are from carribean descent right?

Biggie is from Bedstuy, he grew up on American Hip Hop and was influenced by the pioneers who all black american, he don't go a carribean accent, he ain't from over there. biggie is a black american, he not from over there, all his hits sampled black american music, why wasn't sampling that carribean shyt and making carribean music lmao he don't have an accent he never even repped over there

Carribean isn't a race or a bloodline, its a fukking place, if you wasn't born there or live over there you ain't from there they some nikkaz on an island

 

[MajesticLion]

 

[K.O.N.Y]

To say Herc didn't make Shiit is just as goofy. Cause every single one off the original bboys were rocking at His parties. And Herc was the first to play certain break records.

kool herc spearheaded a movement, but he didn't "make" anything. All of the musical innovations were afram

 

[Budda]

These type of threads are what make the coli great, so much musical information

 

[Budda]

A good analogue to this is Reggaeton, that shyt didn't start in Puerto Rico, it started in Panama and you have all types of records that pre-date anything in Puerto Rico proving that it started there. You can hear dembow and all that in the earlier cuts and then Puerto Ricans took Rap from Black Americans and added it on top of the beat.



The point is, Reggaeton started in Panama and you can literally hear it in the music. You can't hear nothing in Jamaica that sounds like the precursor to Rap buuuut you sure can in Black American music. Pigmeat Markham was straight up spitting in 1968...Grandmaster Flash actually bit that nikka style if we being honest.

This is nothing but tether babble.

I thought Reggaeton was started by Jamaicans who migrated to Panama...

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Biggie is from Bedstuy, he grew up on American Hip Hop and was influenced by the pioneers who all black american, he don't go a carribean accent, he ain't from over there. biggie is a black american, he not from over there, all his hits sampled black american music, why wasn't sampling that carribean shyt and making carribean music lmao he don't have an accent he never even repped over there

Carribean isn't a race or a bloodline, its a fukking place, if you wasn't born there or live over there you ain't from there they some nikkaz on an island

na, he's still Jamaican but his cultural foundation was 100% ADOSian. Biggie even soaked in Jazz which is where his flow came from

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

You do a disservice to AA culture with statements like this. Yall have as much history in the North and South.

Fam, grits is Southern AA culture in origin. This shouldn’t even be an issue. And I’m well aware of Northern AA cultural history but are RZA’s ancestors Northern in origin?