“Hip Hop Came From Dancehall” Topic Came Up On The Breakfast Club

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....read almost any book/article about hiphop history & coke la rock and you'll see everyone hashim as being a jamaican; Not one of them, mention him having North Carolinian roots Good thing that white guy intervied him and found the truth because lord knows, Kool Herc was never going to reveal this informationThe white guy had to complain to get it edited into his wiki page and get rid of that false jamaican narrative:





Talk:Coke La Rock - Wikipedia

And you know countless people done said it with they whole chest

 

[audemarzz]

Obviously most children in that period were either apart of, or few generations removed from the great migration (1916-70). But I don't understand if you're trying to deny hip hop being nyc culture. Nyc has always had people migrating from everywhere, domestic and international so "cultural exchange" isn't far fetched at all. Big took and a lot of west coast OG gang bangers were from the south too, but to say that's southern influence seems disingenuous. But obviously it's my opinion, and everyone can have their own.

The "non American" black community was in the literal thousands before the 1980s.

 

[truth2you]

from the Source (you know a hip hop publication, that is hip hop to the core) :

The Source |Happy Birthday To Hip Hop Founding Father DJ Kool Herc!


On this day in 1955, DJ Kool Herc was born Clive Campbell in Kingston, Jamaica. He moved to the Bronx when he was 12 years old and took on the name “Kool Herc” when he became a member of the graffiti crew the “Ex-Vandals”. The name is short for ‘Hercules’ because of his 6′ 4″ stature. He began DJing parties that he and his sister Cindy threw in their building, which was on 1520 Sedgewick Avenue(Sedgewick & Cedar) in the South Bronx.

Herc pioneered extending the breakbeat on records by playing the same record on two turntables and cueing the “break” in the record, which he noticed had the greatest effect on the dancers at the parties. This was emulated all over the NYC area during the 1970s, thus spawning the culture of Hip Hop. He coined the terms “B-Boys” and “B-Girls” for the dancers who were “breaking”, which Herc says was street slang for “acting energetically” or “causing a disturbance”.

Kool Herc has influenced other founding pioneers of Hip Hop culture including Afrika Bambaataa, Grandmaster Flash, and the Sugarhill Gang.

You have to remember journalists only go by what they were told cause very few, if any, we’re gonna go into Bronxdale, Webster, and other projects to find the street people to interview and find out the truth about hip hop. So, they just went along with what Zulu nation, specifically Bambatta said, and we see how much of a liar Bambatta is. He is only now acknowledging Disco King Mario when Mario was the one who let him use his set before getting his own! This is decades later, and only cause people on the internet are now exposing the lies of Bambatta and Krs-One who also admits to getting the history wrong cause he was too young.

now, with the internet you don’t need a journalist to tell the story, the OG’s can tell it themselves on their phone, and load it up to social media

 

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[KyokushinKarateMan]

 

[Whogivesafuck]

 

[IllmaticDelta]

oh sh1t, he's got interviews coming with some of the West Bronx bboys that came up with Herc

 

[Fresh]

Hip-Hop did NOT come from Dancehall.

I'm tired of people other Black people from the islands spreading this lie and trying to take credit for OUR culture

a lot of Black islanders don't even like African-Americans, but always trying to take credit for rap music

 

[Easy-E]

Hip-Hop did NOT come from Dancehall.

I'm tired of people other Black people from the islands spreading this lie and trying to take credit for OUR culture

It's seems to be crazy Black (Americans) people danced to break beats, then from they're DJs developed call and response and that turned into MCs performing with DJs = Rap/Hip-Hop.

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

Hip-Hop did NOT come from Dancehall.

I'm tired of people other Black people from the islands spreading this lie and trying to take credit for OUR culture

a lot of Black islanders don't even like African-Americans, but always trying to take credit for rap music

To be fair, I’ve never heard that theory being spread by actual Jamaicans, I always heard it in ADOS circles growing up(the brehs saying it would be “kicking knowledge”), and then thru hip hop media like The Source etc.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

To be fair, I’ve never heard that theory being spread by actual Jamaicans, I always heard it in ADOS circles growing up(the brehs saying it would be “kicking knowledge”), and then thru hip hop media like The Source etc.

I definitely heard it from Jamaicans but not in real life, I heard it more from Jamaicans on the internet. The Hiphop media didn't do their due diligence in the late 1970s and 1980s, so every hiphop media outlet from that time on got a partial or falsified summary of HipHop history by the time rappers/rap industry took over the game.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

finally someone else talking about Dj Smokey and the smoketrons (west bronx)

 

[UpAndComing]

Hip Hop actually started in Brooklyn by ADOS like Dj Flowers

And elements of Hip Hop has been around since the 1930s

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I definitely heard it from Jamaicans but not in real life, I heard it more from Jamaicans on the internet. The Hiphop media didn't do their due diligence in the late 1970s and 1980s, so every hiphop media outlet from that time on got a partial or falsified summary of HipHop history by the time rappers/rap industry took over the game.

Kool D and Tyrone, OG Black Spades dj's elaborate on this

@truth2you @Cadillac @Supper @K.O.N.Y @Father

 

[MIKE SPLEAN]

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