“Hip Hop Came From Dancehall” Topic Came Up On The Breakfast Club

[K.O.N.Y]

Kool D and Tyrone, OG Black Spades dj's elaborate on this

@truth2you @Cadillac @Supper @K.O.N.Y @Father

true pharaohs of hip hop

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Kool D and Tyrone, OG Black Spades dj's elaborate on this

@truth2you @Cadillac @Supper @K.O.N.Y @Father

kool dj dee came before mario

 

[IllmaticDelta]

kool dj dee came before mario

technically, as far as being a dj, yes. Kool D was actually a professional club dj first around the likes of pete dj jones and grandmaster flowers

Born in Wilson North Carolina, Kool Dee and Tyrone came up from North Carolina to New York when he was 7 years old in 1963. We lived in Harlem, Brooklyn then we moved to the Bronx in the 70s. Dee was thirteen or 14. As Dee was growing up he was going to different clubs with fake ID to get in, also he were big for his age. Dee mother always gave parties and Dee stayed up listening to the music and watching people dance and having a good time. That's when Dee got interested in Djing. He followed Grandmaster flowers, Pete DJ Jones and other DJs of the era. At the age of 16 Dee received equipment with the help of his mother. Dee also was the president of the first division first chapter of the black Spades which was the largest gang in the Bronx at that time. Dee and Tyrone the mixologist his brother began playing in the Parks of Soundview bronxdale and Bronx River with Disco King Mario another Black Spade member. Playing music for The B- Boys also still playing in the clubs downtown as a professional DJ. Dee and Tyrone also played Brooklyn Queens Manhattan spreading hip hop wherever they went. Kool Dee and tyrone the mixologist has been recognized for having the first Crossfade mixer in the Bronx and for their contributions in the early seventies they are unsung but authentic hip hop pioneers

KOOL DJ DEE TYRONE THE MIXOLOGIST


Mario was the one that brought the more street/park energy. Kool D and Mario later teamed up in Bronxdale and played in the parks/venues that Mario would get access to

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Dancehall


What’s next, Hip Hop came from Calypso and Bachata?

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Hip-Hop did NOT come from Dancehall.

I'm tired of people other Black people from the islands spreading this lie and trying to take credit for OUR culture

a lot of Black islanders don't even like African-Americans, but always trying to take credit for rap music

Hell, we didn’t even fukk with Dancehall during the 70’s, let alone Reggae outside some of the shyt from Bob Marley and his crew. Many New York AA/FBA/ADOS were vibin to nothing but Soul music, Motown, Funk, Jazz, Rhythm & Blues, and Disco at the time…Those are the real forefathers of Hip Hop. I’m sure Dancehall might’ve helped with Hip Hop’s birth and/or evolution in some way but its influence in Hip Hop is grossly overstated, most especially compared to the likes of Funk, Jazz, and Disco. Matter of fact, Southern nikkas were rapping before Hip Hop even existed as far back as the 1940’s if not earlier….Hell, fukking James Brown is the father of many MC’s and their styles…It could be argued that James Brown is the GOAT musician in not just ADOS history but general American and world history because that nikka is practically The OG Godfather of Funk, Disco, House, Hip Hop, Reggae, Rock n Roll, Contemporary R&B, Soul, GoGo, Pop, and both Prince and Michael Jackson

 

[Cadillac]

Kool D and Tyrone, OG Black Spades dj's elaborate on this

@truth2you @Cadillac @Supper @K.O.N.Y @Father

one way or the other, facts and truth will always come toward the light no matter what

I notice more people are starting to understand the truth and realize it for what it is that Herc didnt make shyt. And where hip hop really comes from

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Hell, we didn’t even fukk with Dancehall during the 70’s, late alone Reggae outside some of the shyt from Bob Marley and his crew. Many New York AA/FBA/ADOS were vibin to nothing but Soul music, Motown, Funk, Jazz, Rhythm & Blues, and Disco at the time…Those are the real forefathers of Hip Hop. I’m sure Dancehall might’ve helped with Hip Hop’s birth and/or evolution in some way but its influence in Hip Hop is grossly overstated, most especially compared to the likes of Funk, Jazz, and Disco. Matter of fact, Southern nikkas were rapping before Hip Hop even existed as far back as the 1940’s if not earlier….Hell, fukking James Brown is the father of many MC’s and their styles…It could be argued that James Brown is the GOAT musician in not just ADOS history but general American and world history because that nikka is practically The OG Godfather of Funk, Disco, House, Hip Hop, Reggae, Rock n Roll, Contemporary R&B, Soul, GoGo, Pop, and both Prince and Michael Jackson

if dancehall did have an impact we would hear it in the samples. As far I’m concerned all sampled music from hip hop comes from Motown, disco, soul, funk, and blues records.

Brehs ain’t start sampling reggae records until the late 90s/early 00s

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

People who continue to repeat lies are simply stubbornly stupid at this point.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

there is no reggae influence or connection to early hiphop


Straight from Herc:






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Straight from Baam:

All facts. shyt, GoGo got more of a legit connection to early Hip Hop (especially by the mid 80’s) than Reggae does.

 

[Master Teacher]

If Hip Hop came from the carribean why can't none of them nikkaz rap for shyt

where the carribean Nas, Biggie, Pac, Rakim, Kanes, Run DMC, how come ain't no carribean artist ran shyt, where does this influence come from, it ain't in the damn music

James Brown drum loops the backbone of hip hop, where is this dancehall bullshyt come from

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

i guess i'll agree to disagree. Kool Herc is still the father. Listening to some random nikkas from Brooklyn isn't really factual information either. Kool Herc is in both the Smithsonian Institute as well as the Black History Museum as the founder of hiphop. I'll believe them over some random dusty nikkas from Bushwick lol

As someone who used to work for the Smithsonian for 5 years, trust everything the Smithsonian says brehs

 

[3rdWorld]

Well the Jews own it now..

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

And let’s not forget one of the greatest ny producers of all time was from Texas.

Arguably the Father of Boom Bap

And to add further, the most innovative producer in NYC Hip Hop got a Southern soul and roots his damn self….Otherwise he wouldn’t have made this:

 

[Don Mack]

Glad that shyt was shut down. People are always trying to latch on to us and rewrite history.

 

[frush11]

one way or the other, facts and truth will always come toward the light no matter what


I notice more people are starting to understand the truth and realize it for what it is that Herc didnt make shyt. And where hip hop really comes from

To say Herc didn't make Shiit is just as goofy. Cause every single one off the original bboys were rocking at His parties. And Herc was the first to play certain break records.