Hidden Colors 3: The Rules of Racism (Official Thread)

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Cut out all this tough guy shyt bruh. You always barking on dudes on the board then you get on the podcast and sound like Don Lemon. I made a comment that this thread should be in TLR because I don't think it meets the intellectual standards that HL is supposed to strive for (and fails miserably of course, largely due to posters like you). BarNone moved it here on his own volition because he agrees, he just won't say it directly like I will.

But I'm still curious as to why you seem reasonable on the podcast, then you sound like a fukking idiot on the board. You know I'm not the only person who's said that either. I guarantee you if we were on a podcast, you wouldn't be talking all this "cac/c00n" dumb shyt. You probably wouldn't co-sign this Olmec stuff. You'd probably be like, "Well I don't necessarily agree with methodology and the conclusions drawn in Hidden Colors. I just think it represents another view of history that is not represented in the eurocentric education system. Even though all the information in it isn't accurate, I think it offers a glimpse of pre-colonial African history and may inspire youth to explore and discover the truth about their history." Tell me I'm wrong.

Your wrong.
 

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you made it seem so far fetched that even I almost thought it sounded ludicrous.

this must've been how Black people throughout history felt when whites marginalized and dismissed their ideas, and of course, white's being the "superior, all knowing race" and blacks not having access to a wealth of knowledge such as the internet, Blacks would always be laughed off with little to no recourse...

:lupe: continue revealing your ways.

Do you see anything there about using a sense of smell? :leostare:
 

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I'm not saying that we shouldn't question things. I found a few things in HC2 questionable and had me scratchin my head :patrice: But to completley dismiss everything in the HC series is rediculous.


The HC series is needed. It tells our story compared to the same old slavery/civil rights/opressed story that we were taught in school our entire lives.

I'm gonna continue to support these films :salute:
 

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Do you see anything there about using a sense of smell? :leostare:

:lupe:

first you ask

Describe how a blind man would sense his way through water.

In detail.

Was it chemotaxis? :pachaha:

now it has to explicitly be via means of smell?

:ohlawd:

you guys just move from goal post to goal post every time, if I post evidence of people able to navigate water via sense of smell (and searchGOD will search), you just move to the next goal post...

:ufdup: you don't give a fukk in any event anyway as your true purpose is to be as divisive as possible.

we see skrate thru that shanty
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first you ask



now it has to explicitly be via means of smell?

:ohlawd:

you guys just move from goal post to goal post every time, if I post evidence of people able to navigate water via sense of smell (and searchGOD will search), you just move to the next goal post...

:ufdup: you don't give a fukk in any event anyway as your true purpose is to be as divisive as possible.

we see skrate thru that shanty
:youngsabo:

Well actually it DOES because thats what dude said he uses to determine his way around.

And your link doesn't show them actually navigating other than finding their way around a boat :stopitslime:
 

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Cut out all this tough guy shyt bruh. You always barking on dudes on the board then you get on the podcast and sound like Don Lemon. I made a comment that this thread should be in TLR because I don't think it meets the intellectual standards that HL is supposed to strive for (and fails miserably of course, largely due to posters like you). BarNone moved it here on his own volition because he agrees, he just won't say it directly like I will.

But I'm still curious as to why you seem reasonable on the podcast, then you sound like a fukking idiot on the board. You know I'm not the only person who's said that either. I guarantee you if we were on a podcast, you wouldn't be talking all this "cac/c00n" dumb shyt. You probably wouldn't co-sign this Olmec stuff. You'd probably be like, "Well I don't necessarily agree with methodology and the conclusions drawn in Hidden Colors. I just think it represents another view of history that is not represented in the eurocentric education system. Even though all the information in it isn't accurate, I think it offers a glimpse of pre-colonial African history and may inspire youth to explore and discover the truth about their history." Tell me I'm wrong.


I would like to know what you "refuted" in this thread? Your whole argument (along with the other cac trolls) is "just because people have black skin,big lips,big noses, and nappy hair,that doesn't mean they are Black". And you think anyone here takes you seriously?
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you made it seem so far fetched that even I almost thought it sounded ludicrous.

this must've been how Black people throughout history felt when whites marginalized and dismissed their ideas, and of course, white's being the "superior, all knowing race" and blacks not having access to a wealth of knowledge such as the internet, Blacks would always be laughed off with little to no recourse...

:lupe: continue revealing your ways.

Well actually it DOES because thats what dude said he uses to determine his way around.

And your link doesn't show them actually navigating other than finding their way around a boat :stopitslime:

Stfu

http://www.tongatapu.net.to/lore/tonga/tonga113.htm


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In about 1820 Taufaahau, the future king of Tonga, went to Samoa to be tattooed. As he was returning from Samoa he and the people journeying with him became lost.

They did not know if should they go south, east, west or north to get to Tonga. This was very serious because if they did not find land then they would die of thirst at sea.

In one of the kalias (double canoes) there was an old blind man. He told the people to tell the king's canoe to stop. Then he had his son lead him to the edge of the canoe. He reached down into the sea and felt it with his hands.

Then he said, "Tell the king that we are in Fijian waters." Then he asked, "Where is the sun?" He was told that it was rising. He then said, "By noon we shall see land." Several hours later, they arrived at an island which is one of the islands near Fiji. So what this old man had said was true. Because of this, this man was given the name Fƒfƒkitahi (Feel the ocean).


The first Europeans to come to Polynesia were surprised to find that people in Hawaii spoke almost the same language as the people in New Zealand, or Easter Island or Tonga. They were puzzled that a people with only open canoes could travel so far and find so many small islands in such a large ocean.

It is believed that the first people to come to Tonga came from Fiji. Then from Tonga they traveled to Samoa and then to the islands of eastern Polynesia. These people in ancient times did not find these islands by accident. They found them because they sailed out into the sea to look for them. For example, there is a very old Tongan legend about a chief named Loau who traveled from Tonga to the tafatafakilangi (horizon), the place where the sky meets the sea. During his journey, he sailed past Haapai, Vavau, Niue, Uvea, Samoa, Futuna, then through a red sea and then through a white sea. Finally he arrived at the tafatafakilangi. During each part of the journey the servants of Loau wanted to return to Tonga, but Loau faced the unknown sea and said, "Sail On!" This story is talking about how the ancient Polynesians sailed out from their homelands to look for new lands.

The old Tongans looked for new lands by preparing food and water and then sail from Tonga looking for new lands. Usually no lands were found and after maybe several weeks of traveling the people would turn around and sail back to Tonga. Hoping to get back to land before they ran out of food and water. However, if these voyagers found a new land they would sail back home and gather their relatives and return to the new land and live there. After the first Tongans discovered Samoa, they returned to Tonga, then gathered their relatives and returned to live in Samoa. That is why the Tongans and the Samoans are so much alike. You see they both came from the same people. It is just that the ancestors of the Samoans were Tongans who went to live in Samoa a couple of thousand years ago.

If you sail from Tonga in an open canoe to look for new lands you will need to be able to return to Tonga. The only way to return to Tonga is if you know the stars, the waves and the currents.

When the old Polynesians sailed they would point their canoe in the direction of the star that would guide them to an island. After that star rose a little, a second star would rise after from the same hole under the horizon. They would follow the second star until it was followed by other stars rising from the same hole, one after another. If they knew the right stars to follow they would find land. If they did not, then they would be lost and they may wonder for weeks until they drank all their water and they died at sea.

Stars guided the voyages in different ways. Certain pairs of stars rise or set at the same time in Tonga, but not in Samoa. If you are going to travel from Tonga to Samoa in a canoe watch the stars before you leave to see which pairs of stars set at the same time. Then when you return get to Samoa, watch those two stars. One will set before the other. When you sail back to Tonga, sail so that you will be east of Tonga or Haapai. Watch those two stars that you know will set at the same time. When you see that they set at the same time, then sail west until you come to Haapai or Tonga. You are home.

The old Polynesians knew when there was land, even though the land was too far away to be seen. There were things that they could look for that would tell them when land was near, even though they could not see it. Clouds that float over the sea are blue underneath, clouds that float over land are green underneath. The ocean currents flow from east to west in Polynesia. If there is an island east of your canoe, then the waves will be different than if you are in the open sea. Some birds fly to sea during the day, but they return to land at night. If it is evening and you see different birds flying in the same direction, then you know that there is land in that direction.

I respect the old Polynesians for many reasons. There is one reason in particular: they had courage. If you journey to the horizon to look for new lands, you might sail for weeks, far from your home. Your heart is scared because you wonder if you will be able to return to your home, but still you sail on into the unknown ocean.

School is starting for many Polynesians. If you are in your classroom it is easy to be quiet and not ask questions. But if you want to learn lots of things you have to have courage because you have to ask questions. In ancient times in Tonga, when there were battles the bravest warriors ran to the front of the battle to fight. Polynesians should be like that for education. They should go after knowledge like a big fish chasing little fish. It is a scary thing if you are in a classroom and you raise your hand and ask a question. Everyone looks at you, you might be scared that it is a dumb question. But, the old Polynesians have shown us an example of courage. They faced the unknown to look for new lands. Raise your hand in class, ask questions. If you do that then you are honoring the old Polynesians who faced the unknown sea to look for new lands.

Papaihia

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I would like to dhat you "refuted" in this thread? Your whole argument (along with the other cac trolls) is "just because people have black skin,big lips,big noses, and nappy hair,that doesn't mean they are Black". And you think anyone here takes you seriously?
LOL
The long post I wrote this afternoon in this thread debunked the whole Olmec hypothesis. It's not like it was hard to do. It debunks itself because it's just some made up dumb shyt by a crackpot professor in 1976, and there is zero archaeological, linguistic, DNA, or any other form of evidence that supports it, and it only exists to this day because there's a market for pseudohistorical :duck: that appeal to a internalized white supremacy, ignorance, and misplaced sense of ethnic pride.

I'm not interested in whether a bunch of uneducated, ignorant clowns who possess the reasoning capacity of a bread mold, have presented literally zero evidence for any of the ideas they're co-signing, and think "you're a c00n or a cac" is a viable counterargument in a discussion of history and anthropology take what I say seriously because my only allegiance is to logic and truth, and I have upheld that.

Now what do you think about the fact that the consensus among academia from people of all races as well as the majority of average people of all races don't take your position seriously, and the only reason you endorse those views is because you saw a video by a so-called relationship expert who found a hustle by excavating the corpses of kooky ideas from the lunatic fringe of academia, and that was probably the only inquiry you've ever made into history in your life?
 

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The long post I wrote this afternoon in this thread debunked the whole Olmec hypothesis. It's not like it was hard to do. It debunks itself because it's just some made up dumb shyt by a crackpot professor in 1976, and there is zero archaeological, linguistic, DNA, or any other form of evidence that supports it, and it only exists to this day because there's a market for pseudohistorical :duck: that appeal to a internalized white supremacy, ignorance, and misplaced sense of ethnic pride.

I'm not interested in whether a bunch of uneducated, ignorant clowns who possess the reasoning capacity of a bread mold, have presented literally zero evidence for any of the ideas they're co-signing, and think "you're a c00n or a cac" is a viable counterargument in a discussion of history and anthropology take what I say seriously because my only allegiance is to logic and truth, and I have upheld that.

Now what do you think about the fact that the consensus among academia from people of all races as well as the majority of average people of all races don't take your position seriously, and the only reason you endorse those views is because you saw a video by a so-called relationship expert who found a hustle by excavating the corpses of kooky ideas from the lunatic fringe of academia, and that was probably the only inquiry you've ever made into history in your life?


You're not even a fukking archeologist so stfu..really..you got archeologists and anthropologists co signing this shyt..there is DNA..you can't get DNA from an Olmec cuz they don't exist anymore..but the Mayans have a African Y Chromosome..foh

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/olmecs01.htm
 

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The long post I wrote this afternoon in this thread debunked the whole Olmec hypothesis. It's not like it was hard to do. It debunks itself because it's just some made up dumb shyt by a crackpot professor in 1976, and there is zero archaeological, linguistic, DNA, or any other form of evidence that supports it, and it only exists to this day because there's a market for pseudohistorical :duck: that appeal to a internalized white supremacy, ignorance, and misplaced sense of ethnic pride.

I'm not interested in whether a bunch of uneducated, ignorant clowns who possess the reasoning capacity of a bread mold, have presented literally zero evidence for any of the ideas they're co-signing, and think "you're a c00n or a cac" is a viable counterargument in a discussion of history and anthropology take what I say seriously because my only allegiance is to logic and truth, and I have upheld that.

Now what do you think about the fact that the consensus among academia from people of all races as well as the majority of average people of all races don't take your position seriously, and the only reason you endorse those views is because you saw a video by a so-called relationship expert who found a hustle by excavating the corpses of kooky ideas from the lunatic fringe of academia, and that was probably the only inquiry you've ever made into history in your life?
You did not debunk or disprove one single thing in this thread.Not one.People here (including myself) posted tons of proof and evidence of the African presence/influence in Meso America,and all you did was ignore the proof. I know thats a common cac tactic,but again,you aren't fooling anyone. LOL
Even YOU know you are full of $#!t LOL
Denying facts is not "debunking". LOL
 

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You did not debunk or disprove one single thing in this thread.Not one.People here (including myself) posted tons of proof and evidence of the African presence/influence in Meso America,and all you did was ignore the proof. I know thats a common cac tactic,but again,you aren't fooling anyone. LOL
Even YOU know you are full of $#!t LOL
Denying facts is not "debunking". LOL


Really tho..all him and Napolian are talking about are the "etiquettes of debating"

They're not saying shyt..
 

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Does Tariq Nasheed have an e-mail address where he'll answer questions? I don't do the facebook thing like that, but this thread has me curious how he would answer some of the questions that have been asked in here
 

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Not ONE post in here celebrates a dark(er)-skinned black person. Just focuses on bringing in lighter shades to our black image. But then when you show them what exactly they are doing (ie. me posting up that pic of Paula Patton's son), then they don't wanna claim it and they wanna back down.

Only light brights and people who "pass"/ would run from their blackness if it ever caught up to them in this whole thread. Beethoven ain't black to me. And I'm pretty sure he wasn't black to himself. But here you have a thread of nikkas heralding him as some epoch of Blackness that they wanna use to show "black pride". Trying to convince someone that they aren't desperate.

No wonder y'all are plagued by simpery on this board..
This. This is the problem I have with these muthafukkas. And then wanna be the first to call nikkas c00ns, while they sit there and try to claim some octoroon like Beethoven as black. When we have REAL black musicians. They have no pride what so ever. Deep down they are ashamed of their color and ancestry.
 

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A 64 year old man traveled across the atlantic from Senegal to Brazil in a canoe, friend. The currents basically took him there. After 6 months these same currents reverse and will take you back. Pretty cool, friend. But i guess if theres no record, this old man was the first to do it in history. :heh: O friend, you.
thats the shortest possible route, take a look at the map from africa to mexico. :heh:
 
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