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Harry Potter...not ashamed to admit I love the books/movies. Fred and George had the Marauders Map for years before giving it to Harry. The map can tell whoever is walking on the grounds of Hogwarts Castle. So in all the years they had it, they never saw Peter Pettigrew's name on it :why: They didn't find it weird that Peter Pettigrew's name was shown as sleeping in the boy's dorm (hidden as pet rat) with their 12 year old brother and his friends :why:
 
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Nah, you got it a bit wrong. The original timeline has no Kyle Reese and SkyNet is still born without the discovery of the first Terminator piece.

There was a debate on something like that several pages back. In the original timeline there's no Kyle Reese and SkyNet was made a different way but Judgment Day, John Connor and Skynet happen anyway. So if Past!John were to kill himself that would just give Skynet an easy victory. Here's what I posted way back to justify it:

A stable time loop (like the rule on how you can't just go back and kill Hitler) and then you realize that Future!John Connor probably sends Kyle Reese before he was conceived (before some random guy nutted up in his mom) that means Kyle was never really John's father in the original timeline.

So If Kyle Reese and the first T-800 aren't sent back in time, some random guy that Sarah fukks would have gotten her knocked up and we'd still have John Connor.

But because Kyle Reese and the T-800 are sent back it changes the game plan creating a new timeline where Future!John Connor unwittingly creates himself and SkyNet does the same when a piece of the original T-800 is found by scientists.


Watching Terminator and T2 and parts of that theory doesn't work. Kyle Reese states that John Connor is the biggest threat because he's been trained since he was a child. But Sarah was a waitress and probably would've been a career dead-end job lady. The only way she would develop the know-how and strength, and survival tactics is by encountering them before. This means they had to send a terminator back to kill her, she has to survive. She only survives because of the protector sent back. To ensure both future existence, they both have to keep sending people back. If John offs himself, that stops the loop. Skynet probably can get started another way, and the machines take over, but there are no terminators sent back and no John Connor to threaten them
 

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Nah, you got it a bit wrong. The original timeline has no Kyle Reese and SkyNet is still born without the discovery of the first Terminator piece.
There was a debate on something like that several pages back. In the original timeline there's no Kyle Reese and SkyNet was made a different way but Judgment Day, John Connor and Skynet happen anyway. So if Past!John were to kill himself that would just give Skynet an easy victory. Here's what I posted way back to justify it:
A stable time loop (like the rule on how you can't just go back and kill Hitler) and then you realize that Future!John Connor probably sends Kyle Reese before he was conceived (before some random guy nutted up in his mom) that means Kyle was never really John's father in the original timeline.
So If Kyle Reese and the first T-800 aren't sent back in time, some random guy that Sarah fukks would have gotten her knocked up and we'd still have John Connor.
But because Kyle Reese and the T-800 are sent back it changes the game plan creating a new timeline where Future!John Connor unwittingly creates himself and SkyNet does the same when a piece of the original T-800 is found by scientists.
they explained it at the end of 3.... something along the lines of... no matter what we did, we couldn't stop judgement day... only delay it.. it was meant to happen, fate wasn't what we made it, they couldn't avoid it... so running from his problems wasn't gonna work.. he had to step up
Watching Terminator and T2 and parts of that theory doesn't work. Kyle Reese states that John Connor is the biggest threat because he's been trained since he was a child. But Sarah was a waitress and probably would've been a career dead-end job lady. The only way she would develop the know-how and strength, and survival tactics is by encountering them before. This means they had to send a terminator back to kill her, she has to survive. She only survives because of the protector sent back. To ensure both future existence, they both have to keep sending people back. If John offs himself, that stops the loop. Skynet probably can get started another way, and the machines take over, but there are no terminators sent back and no John Connor to threaten them
shyt doesnt happen without kyle, sarah taught john from birth, from the shyt kyle taught her about survival (woulda been murked long before john), terminator followed kyle back, john & sarah knew the deal before part 2 when the terminator protected them, from kyle, john sent kyle back on purpose knowing he was his father (moms got knocked up by a dude you sent back at that time period, duh, plus she tells him his dad name, picture from mexico) skynet only got jump started by the machines found, it was already in effect (they made advancements & perfections of future parts) it got delayed & stopped by kyle fukkery & snitchin,....

if it was destined it woulda happened decades later, kyle touches the pillar of everything & every character, even his son who sent him back, dude had a wolverine effect on the timeline, terminator is extreme timelime plothole fukkery just off john & kyle alone.... never was john mentioned as a soldier raised by some random fukkboy from another timeline i recall....
 

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Harry Potter...not ashamed to admit I love the books/movies. Fred and George had the Marauders Map for years before giving it to Harry. The map can tell whoever is walking on the grounds of Hogwarts Castle. So in all the years they had it, they never saw Peter Pettigrew's name on it :why: They didn't find it weird that Peter Pettigrew's name was shown as sleeping in the boy's dorm (hidden as pet rat) with their 12 year old brother and his friends :why:
They probably only used that map to find hoes and ignored every other name shown:yeshrug:
 

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They probably only used that map to find hoes and ignored every other name shown:yeshrug:

It's alot plotholes in Harry Potter. Ron and his family was poor as fukk but, they're witches. Rowlings wrote that witches couldn't create anything out of thin air but, they could duplicate something that was already there a million times.



What's stopping Ron from buying steak, lobsters and potatoes and just duplicating it every night for dinner? :rudy: What's stopping Ron from duplicating 20 pairs of Bred 11's from the mall :rudy: It was no law in her world saying that was illegal but, his family and a whole bunch of other characters chose to be poor :rudy:
 

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It's alot plotholes in Harry Potter. Ron and his family was poor as fukk but, they're witches. Rowlings wrote that witches couldn't create anything out of thin air but, they could duplicate something that was already there a million times.



What's stopping Ron from buying steak, lobsters and potatoes and just duplicating it every night for dinner? :rudy: What's stopping Ron from duplicating 20 pairs of Bred 11's from the mall :rudy: It was no law in her world saying that was illegal but, his family and a whole bunch of other characters chose to be poor :rudy:
You know that authors and creators like to make characters do that "it wouldn't be right to use our powers for ANYTHING other than good" bullshyt, Ron's family was living that Kent Family From Smallville lifestyle.
 

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Family Matters....

Urkel's parents were virtually non-existant....and Urkel was livin in a house...building expensive robots...rockets...etc...with no source of income....who the hell was payin the mortgage??:what:

Herb and Diane were most likely professionals

thats the least thing about that show that needs ruining with common logic
 

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Herb and Diane were most likely professionals

thats the least thing about that show that needs ruining with common logic

professionals who leave their underage teenage son (the early years of FM) home alone to his own dangerous devices for weeks on end?....in reality a neighbor would have called child services and Urkel would have become a ward of the state.....
 

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professionals who leave their underage teenage son (the early years of FM) home alone to his own dangerous devices for weeks on end?....in reality a neighbor would have called child services and Urkel would have become a ward of the state.....

he was a teenager

he's old enough to be alone
 

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Family Matters....

Urkel's parents were virtually non-existant....and Urkel was livin in a house...building expensive robots...rockets...etc...with no source of income....who the hell was payin the mortgage??:what:
Weren't his parents smart as fukk too? Think they were always on business so they probably just had the bank pay it off.

Which begs the question, if his parents were smart as fukk, had jobs that had them on the road all the time, surely that made enough that it didn't make sense for them to live in the city next to a low level cop's family.
 

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Scarface- Wasn't it a bit overkill for Sosa to send 40 dudes to kill Tony, and how did Tony stay in power so long with his inept ass crew? Sosa just told you :ufdup: and all you got is a handful of soldiers to go to war with. I know he was coked out of his mind but still.
 

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Weren't his parents smart as fukk too? Think they were always on business so they probably just had the bank pay it off.

Which begs the question, if his parents were smart as fukk, had jobs that had them on the road all the time, surely that made enough that it didn't make sense for them to live in the city next to a low level cop's family.

they were smart enough to not spend too much money on a mortgage

Legally it doesn't work like that... He was under the age of 16...in Illinois his parents would have been breaking the law
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they were smart enough to not spend too much money on a mortgage


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Under the Illinois babysitting laws, children under the age of 13 need a babysitter. If any child this age is left alone, the parent is guilty of child abuse under Illinois law. The law reads, “Any minor under the age of 14 years whose parent or other person responsible for the minor’s welfare leaves the minor without supervision for an unreasonable period of time without regard for the mental or physical health, safety or welfare of that minor.”


http://blog.laborlawtalk.com/2006/11/10/illinois-babysitting-laws/

these are penal laws for Illinois that are still in affect....urkel had to be at least 13-14 when FM first started...his parents should be with OJ right now breh....
 
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