Here we go....Floyd throws shade on Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, and Sugar Ray Robinson

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So ironic :russ:

I knew what Floyd meant when he said it and even If he was mistaken ill give him a bit of a pass since hes been getting hit in the head for over 30 years and he actually fights for a living, you as a "fan" of the sport only have any real connection to the sport from watching and leaning about its history and not actually experiencing boxing in the ring, and thusly should know some simple history.

Floyd dismantling of the # 2 p4p fighter in the world is greater than Ali catching a fade after 2 tune ups to Frazier. You should thank God Manny was smart enough to duck that ass whooping he was gonna catch from Floyd because then he would just be another nikka Floyd beat and not some ATG like people try to say.

The hype and legend of Frazier vs Ali 1 is much greater than the actual fight (although still a really good - great fight)

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Really nikka?? Your stanning is at an astronomical level.. This whole thread is about what Floyd said out of his mouth.. But he gets a pass from you regardless of how inaccurate and illogical what hes saying is... yet when I repeat it and use his own logic to expose how much of an ass clown he is, I get criticized lol..

You're a joke breh

You can keep bringing up Floyd beating "the #2 p4p in the world" all you want... Dont change the fact that Floyd came in above the specified weight limit... dont change the fact that JMM was moving up from featherweight. . And it dont change the fact that he was Pacquiao's leftovers.. Floyd should've been trying to fight Pac, not JMM.. But according to you Pac ducked an asswhooping :mjlol: bwooooy you need to get re accumulated with reality
 

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We have already been over the Cheeto "prime Cotto" shyt before. Manny ducked the test in 2010 the fight would have went down Floyd would have wrecked him in a once sided ass kicking then hed be bushes status. Floyd been called out Kosta a bunch of times and Paul couldn't get his shyt right at the right time to make the fight happen but he would have caugh the L too.
Floyd can't have it both ways. He can't throw shade at Ali, SRL, and SRR and avoid the criticism. Since he wants to be TBE, he needs to face criticism for not fighting Manny, his "retirement", not fighting all the best around his weight, etc. And you can't build a case for GOAT status when half of it consists of "would have". And he can't do anything about it at this point, because the talent isn't where it was then. But his fans will just accepts whatever narrative he pushes. Boxing historians, writers, and real fans see through it, so it's no big deal. History will remember Floyd with ATG skill but not an ATG resume.

Max Kellerman said it best: Floyd will only take a fight if he's 100% sure he's going to win it. He cares more about his Zero than his legacy.
 

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:russ: U have no shame

Why would I be ashamed of facts breh. Floyd brags about beating someone who Pac beat 3 times who Floyd dragged up from featherweight and came in way above the weight limit. And in the same breath he compares a fight with someone manny beat 3 times to Ali/Frazier.. im not the one who should feel shame
 
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Kosta was Showtime, Floyd was HBO if memory serves me correctly. Cotto was at the fight with Floyd and Gatti. That was around the time Floyd left Top Rank. After he saw what happened to Arturo, Bob Arum or Miguel Cotto were interested in that fight. He didn't want Floyd to leave his company while giving the remaining #1 fighter on the roster his first L. Margarito didn't have a strap and I'll give y'all Paul Williams. Something like Thurman is nowadays, but Paul was a better fighter.
Margarito did have a belt...
 

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So Ali didn't make and star in a movie calling himself the greatest? People were saying he was wiling, and some of the reasons were exactly what
Floyd stated in the article

Floyd basically following the same blueprint Ali..Floyd a smart dude, I don't know if it's actually him or his team around him but them dudes are geniuses....agree with it or not 20 years from now, it's gonna be ppl calling him TBE
 

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Margarito did have a belt...

And he was ranked Top 5 by RING at 147.

The top 5 WW's when Floyd instead fought Ricky Hatton, a 140lber and then retired after that fight, were:

Champion: Floyd Mayweather
1) Miguel Cotto
2) Paul Williams
3) Shane Mosley
4) Antonio Margarito
5) Zab Judah


:wow:
 

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Nah, I dont think so. I think he legitimately believes he's greater than SRR, SRL, and Muhammad Ali....which is PURE non-sense.


He should believe he is better than those guys and I don't see anything wrong with that. My issue is him slandering their records when his shyt is looking real flabby as far as prime great fighters go.

I can't wait until he takes his L so we can disqualify him from the GOAT category using his own words.

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He should believe he is better than those guys and I don't see anything wrong with that. My issue is him slandering their records when his shyt is looking real flabby as far as prime great fighters go.

I can't wait until he takes his L so we can disqualify him from the GOAT category using his own words.

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For him to believe it, I have no problem with it. He's supposed to be supremely confident about himself.

For OTHERS to believe it, I think it's pure non-sense:manny:
 

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For him to believe it, I have no problem with it. He's supposed to be supremely confident about himself.

For OTHERS to believe it, I think it's pure non-sense:manny:

Anyone who does believe he is the GOAT is either a dikkrider or doesn't know what they're talking.

If BHop wins in Nov it can be argued that Floyd isn't even the best of this generation let alone of all time.
 

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So Ali didn't make and star in a movie calling himself the greatest? People were saying he was wiling, and some of the reasons were exactly what
Floyd stated in the article

Floyd basically following the same blueprint Ali..Floyd a smart dude, I don't know if it's actually him or his team around him but them dudes are geniuses....agree with it or not 20 years from now, it's gonna be ppl calling him TBE

The difference is Ali claimed he could beat those greats who came before him and Ali believed it.. and being a heavyweight he could definitely make the argument.. Ali also fought the top guys of his era

Floyd aint even claiming he can beat any of the greats.. His whole pussified argument is that he beat "#2 p4p" Marquez coming off a break.. "look at how Ali lost to Frazier when he came off a break.. Floyd dont have a legit argument to be the GOAT.. He just declares it and you dummy stans eat it up.. Cries about how he's given his life to the sport as if Ali and Robinson didn't.. The nikka has the audacity to try to compare resumes breh.. :snoop:
 
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The difference is Ali claimed he could beat those guys who came before him and Ali believed it.. and being a heavyweight he could definitely make the argument..

Floyd aint even claiming he can beat any of the greats.. His whole pussified argument is that he beat "#2 p4p" Marquez coming off a break.. "look at how Ali lost to Frazier when he came off a break.. Floyd dont have a legit argument to be the GOAT.. He just declares it and you dummy stans eat it up.. Crys about how he's given his life to the sport as if Ali and Robinson didn't.. The nikka has the audacity to try to compare resumes breh.. :snoop:

I agree most of his reasoning is dumb.....But they laying the groundwork for his legacy now, and like you said people are gonna eat it up, the same way they did with Ali
 
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And he was ranked Top 5 by RING at 147.

The top 5 WW's when Floyd instead fought Ricky Hatton, a 140lber and then retired after that fight, were:

Champion: Floyd Mayweather
1) Miguel Cotto
2) Paul Williams
3) Shane Mosley
4) Antonio Margarito
5) Zab Judah


:wow:

Ricky Hatton was undefeated, and they said floyd was ducking him, where were you man

look at the end of this video

its the same story, you name a bunch of fighters, what do you want him to do fight them all at once


you nikkaz are retarded




all them fighters they he dodged he beat
 
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Floyd can't have it both ways. He can't throw shade at Ali, SRL, and SRR and avoid the criticism. Since he wants to be TBE, he needs to face criticism for not fighting Manny, his "retirement", not fighting all the best around his weight, etc. And you can't build a case for GOAT status when half of it consists of "would have". And he can't do anything about it at this point, because the talent isn't where it was then. But his fans will just accepts whatever narrative he pushes. Boxing historians, writers, and real fans see through it, so it's no big deal. History will remember Floyd with ATG skill but not an ATG resume.

Max Kellerman said it best: Floyd will only take a fight if he's 100% sure he's going to win it. He cares more about his Zero than his legacy.


Who said anything about avoiding criticism? If anything opeople avoid criticizing old fighters because they are scared of having there own opinion. They know if you don't slurp at the alter of yesteryear your gonna get heat from all directions.

I consider the Goat based on watching what a guy does in the ring and breaking down what he's doing in terms of defense, affective offense, footwork, chin ect.

"Boxing historians" and "real" fans are just as if not more so guilty of doing exactly what your saying Floyd fans do. They accept the narrative laid down by people with rose tinted glasses as a fact and over hype the older generation. Sun shines out they ass, ol Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player, Elvis is the best singer ass nikkas.

Real talk Max Kellerman should have been beaten to death with that hammer and not his brother.
 
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