Here we go....Floyd throws shade on Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, and Sugar Ray Robinson

[patscorpio]

Fakkit banned me and unbanned me because I was sonning him the other day, that lil nikka is comical I must admit

What the fukk are you talking about? I just son your lazy slovenly pothead ass but you haven't been banned by me...ol mr me too ass nikka

 

[Skip b]

What the fukk are you talking about? I just son your lazy slovenly pothead ass but you haven't been banned by me...ol mr me too ass nikka

Lets just keep that between me and u

 

[patscorpio]

Lets just keep that between me and u

Just go talk about the thread topic at hand breh..I'm sure you got some shyt to say

 

[Skip b]

Just go talk about the thread topic at hand breh..I'm sure you got some shyt to say

I'm done here, someone called on me and I answered, and got not one legit response from any of u lil nikkas...........


You troll away in a Floyd thread; that's your thing.........

 

[MIAlien]

Who said anything about avoiding criticism? If anything opeople avoid criticizing old fighters because they are scared of having there own opinion. They know if you don't slurp at the alter of yesteryear your gonna get heat from all directions.

I consider the Goat based on watching what a guy does in the ring and breaking down what he's doing in terms of defense, affective offense, footwork, chin ect.

"Boxing historians" and "real" fans are just as if not more so guilty of doing exactly what your saying Floyd fans do. They accept the narrative laid down by people with rose tinted glasses as a fact and over hype the older generation. Sun shines out they ass, ol Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player, Elvis is the best singer ass nikkas.

Real talk Max Kellerman should have been beaten to death with that hammer and not his brother.

You dropped a list of excuses for why Floyd didn't fight a few different guys. There's no good reason why Floyd didn't fight at least SOME of the aforementioned names. Floyd needs to be criticized for not fighting some of those guys. He needs to be questioned for those long gaps of inactivity and that "retirement". And he will ALWAYS be questioned for failing to fight the 2nd best fighter of his era in his prime, when he was the biggest possible threat to beat him.

BTW, I totally agree with challenging popular opinions about the athletes and musicians of yesteryear. I do it all the time. No one is above criticism, no matter how great.

 

[Master Teacher]

OMG!!!!! A FIGHTER LOST BEFORE THEY FOUGHT FLOYD!!!! OH NOOOOOO! NOW THEY DEFINITELY DONT DESERVE A FLOYD FIGHT!!!


I never realized Baldomir, Judah, Oscar, Marquez,, Mosley, Ortiz, Guerrero and Maidana were all undefeated.

Stop posting you fukking moron

when you lose you down in the rankings

Floyd has only fault belt holders since Zab Judah, shyt your dumb ass down somehwere

 

[seemorecizzy]

You either know exactly what the quote means and you're dodging the point, or you're slow. It's not about expecting to win once the fight is made. It's about not agreeing to fight a guy unless he KNOWS he can't lose. He's hedged his bets and played it safe. He's risk averse. That's the point. And you can't play it safe and be the greatest.

all u did was repeat the same thing

so answer me this,

what fight did floyd NOT agree to do because he thought he might lose?

u can cancel out the pacquaio fight since he agreed to the pacquaio fight 50 50 and even roach said they fukked up by not agreeing to it


so please tell me which fighter he looked at and said "i might lose to this guy, i aint fighting him"

 

[Master Teacher]

Another nikka I will ignore for now on.

you already ignoring facts so why not

smh

nikkaz make up their own scenarios and shyt when they come to floyd

the hate really got these nikkaz losing their minds

 

[Master Teacher]

nikkaz really thinking bum ass margarito stood a chance against Floyd, maybe he would've got a chance if he wasn't decapitated by shane

paul williams, has zero guys on his resume besides Margarito at the time, who was A NOBODY

Margarito became a somebody when he beat cotto which he had to cheat to, why are you even bringing up this fukking bum


Margarito got his belt out a crackerjack box, nikkaz can't name one legit opponent he beat to where he was suppose to take priority over the guys that Floyd had fought who were title holders

pure lunacy

 

[MIAlien]

all u did was repeat the same thing

so answer me this,

what fight did floyd NOT agree to do because he thought he might lose?

u can cancel out the pacquaio fight since he agreed to the pacquaio fight 50 50 and even roach said they fukked up by not agreeing to it


so please tell me which fighter he looked at and said "i might lose to this guy, i aint fighting him"

I didn't repeat the same thing. He has never tried to take on big risks to enhance his legacy. For example: DLH fought Hopkins, a fight he had no chance in, just to chase glory. Roy Jones moved up to heavyweight, even if it was Ruiz, to chase glory. Pac kept fighting JMM to close that chapter and erase that mark from his legacy.

Floyd has not done that, especially in the post DLH era. I thought he might go up to 155+ to take the MW title from Cotto or Canelo. Now I'm even starting to doubt he'd take THAT risk, even after having beaten both of them.

Also, you can't cancel the Pac fight out. It's the prime example. Instead of making the fight, Floyd went on a campaign about Pac being bigger and defaming him by throwing the PED stuff out there. Now that Pac got he'll mention him with no problem, and the odds of the fight being made have gone way up since then.


And I won't name other fighters and circumstances just to get into you and others spitting out Floyd's narrative for why the fights never happened. No need for all that back & forth to get to the same spot. You think Floyd has fought the best throughout his career without considering risk. Fine. You've got more than a few people in here explaining Floyd's calculated moves. But I guess it's just convenient that he missed out on fighting so many dangerous fighters during his run. Just a coincidence.

 

[HARLEM AL]

I didn't repeat the same thing. He has never tried to take on big risks to enhance his legacy. For example: DLH fought Hopkins, a fight he had no chance in, just to chase glory. Roy Jones moved up to heavyweight, even if it was Ruiz, to chase glory. Pac kept fighting JMM to close that chapter and erase that mark from his legacy.

Floyd has not done that, especially in the post DLH era. I thought he might go up to 155+ to take the MW title from Cotto or Canelo. Now I'm even starting to doubt he'd take THAT risk, even after having beaten both of them.

Also, you can't cancel the Pac fight out. It's the prime example. Instead of making the fight, Floyd went on a campaign about Pac being bigger and defaming him by throwing the PED stuff out there. Now that Pac got he'll mention him with no problem, and the odds of the fight being made have gone way up since then.


And I won't name other fighters and circumstances just to get into you and others spitting out Floyd's narrative for why the fights never happened. No need for all that back & forth to get to the same spot. You think Floyd has fought the best throughout his career without considering risk. Fine. You've got more than a few people in here explaining Floyd's calculated moves. But I guess it's just convenient that he missed out on fighting so many dangerous fighters during his run. Just a coincidence.

I keep seeing margarito name but none of them mention paul Williams name. And he beat margarito(mind you I don't think much of him) But still, Floyd don't get no automatic W because he CAN beat him. You have to prove it. Which is what all of us are saying really.

 

[HARLEM AL]

Margarito didn't beat anybody to deserve a fight with Floyd but Victor Ortiz did. What about Robert the Ghost?

 

[Newzz]

nikkaz really thinking bum ass margarito stood a chance against Floyd, maybe he would've got a chance if he wasn't decapitated by shane

paul williams, has zero guys on his resume besides Margarito at the time, who was A NOBODY

Margarito became a somebody when he beat cotto which he had to cheat to, why are you even bringing up this fukking bum


Margarito got his belt out a crackerjack box, nikkaz can't name one legit opponent he beat to where he was suppose to take priority over the guys that Floyd had fought who were title holders

pure lunacy

How about the FACT that Antonio Margarito was ranked by RING Magazine the #2 WW in 2002, #3 WW in 2003, #1 WW from 2004-2006, and the #4 WW in 2007.....all of that was BEFORE HE FOUGHT COTTO.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_Welterweight--2000s

Just because you follow only Floyd doesn't mean the hardcore fan didnt know these facts already and Margarito was widely considered an elite WW and most ducked fighter at that time, which is why Floyd (who couldn't draw old ladies to a bingo hall), was offered 8 million to fight him.

You dont get offered that much money to fight "nobodies"

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Stop posting you fukking moron

when you lose you down in the rankings

Floyd has only fault belt holders since Zab Judah, shyt your dumb ass down somehwere

And all of those fighters won again. So now what's your excuse? I can guarantee you have as many as floyd. Btw, do you even go to fights?

 

[Skip b]

I keep seeing margarito name but none of them mention paul Williams name. And he beat margarito(mind you I don't think much of him) But still, Floyd don't get no automatic W because he CAN beat him. You have to prove it. Which is what all of us are saying really.

So Williams got his ass whooped by a D class fighter in Quitana but Floyd supposed to fight him