You can't be serious. This proves my point more than it does yours. You just stated the Hebrew word 'alluph' was translated into the word 'duke' by people in the Roman Empire (white people), and was then incorporated into Old English, Spanish, Portugese, and French (other white people) 'as a title of nobility'. The King James version is written in Old English. You essentially saying that the word duke today and 'alluph' translated to duke back in 1611 when the people knew of the Dukes of Scotland, England etc., but instead of using a different word because it wasn't accurate, they still used that word anyway? There's a reason the word 'duke' is what was used. Plus, just because it was changed to chiefs in some versions, it wasn't changed in every version hence Wycliffe, Tyndale, The Webster Bible, and Douay-Rheims versions which still use the word 'duke'. A simple online search can confirm this.
Wrong
The hebrew word alluph was translated as hegemon in the septuagint and NT.
Hegemon is used in reference to the Israelites along with other nations, not just the edomites.
http://lexicon.katabiblon.com/search.php?mode=fetch&text=LXX&range=Jer48:13&lemma=ἡγεμών&i=on
http://lexicon.katabiblon.com/search.php?mode=fetch&text=LXX&range=Jer48:16&lemma=ἡγεμών&i=on
http://lexicon.katabiblon.com/search.php?mode=fetch&text=LXX&range=Ps54:14&lemma=ἡγεμών&i=on
http://lexicon.katabiblon.com/search.php?mode=fetch&text=LXX&range=Ez23:23&lemma=ἡγεμών&i=on
http://biblesuite.com/greek/strongs_2233.htm
And guess what?
Dux was also used for the Israelites in the Vulgate.
http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/s?t=0&q=dux&b=lvb
So i guess that makes everyone an Edomite according to your silly logic.
Learn how to research stuff.
LionofJudah said:
False. People like you who like to pervert the scripture try to say 1 Samuel 16:12, Songs 5:10 & Lamentations say 'red', when the word used is clearly the word 'ruddy'.
1 Samuel 16:12
And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he.
Song of Solomon 5:10
My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.
Lamentations 4:7
Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:
Esau is described as 'red'.
Genesis 25:25
And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.
Although the same Strong's H132 - 'admoniy is used to describe Esau as red (excluding Song of Soloman and Lamentations), King David is ONLY described as 'ruddy' throughout the scriptures using that same 132. The word ruddy doesn't ONLY mean red, and since you claim to know Hebrew, you also know that one word can have MANY meanings, although there is one that is usually generally accepted as the MAIN meaning. The word ruddy only means that he was attractive, and easy on the eyes, not that he was 'red' the way Esau is described. For more proof of this, people can watch this video.
Also, the word 'ruddy' was changed to also mean red so these devil Edomites could hide who they are. Regarding Esau and his wives, you're off on that also. A white male and a Black female can have a white child. One look at Robin Thicke's son with Paula Patton proves this. And if this wasn't the case, you would have to explain how whites came about because everyone on the Earth in the beginning was BLACK. Science proves this.
Red and ruddy are the same thing bruh.
http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/132.htm
red, ruddy
Or (fully) admowniy {ad-mo-nee'}; from 'adam; reddish (of the hair or the complexion) -- red, ruddy.
http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/119.htm
adom: to be red
Short Definition: red
Both Esau AND David are called Admoniy.
Facts >>>>> Speculation.
Obadiah 1:17-18
17 But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.
18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.
The Book of Malachi, which is the LAST book of the Old Testament says this
Chapter 1:3-4
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.
These scriptures clearly tell us Edomites STILL exist and the LORD will hate them 'for ever.' The book of Obadiah is a FUTURE judgement. It has not happened yet.
Lol you thought you were slick leaving out the rest of Obadiah.
Obadiah 1:19-21
People from the Negev will occupy
the mountains of Esau,
and people from the foothills will possess
the land of the Philistines.
They will occupy the fields of Ephraim and Samaria,
and Benjamin will possess Gilead.
This company of Israelite exiles who are in Canaan
will possess the land as far as Zarephath;
the exiles from Jerusalem who are in Sepharad
will possess the towns of the Negev.
Deliverers will go up on Mount Zion
to govern the mountains of Esau.
And the kingdom will be the Lord’s.
Which is what The Hasmonian Dynasty accomplished when it took the land of Idumea/Edom and added it into the Kingdom of Judea.
Now let's read Malachi 1:3-5 in a proper translation that isn't the erroneous and utterly laughable KJV.
1 A prophecy: The word of the Lord to Israel through Malachi.2 “I have loved you,” says the Lord. “But you ask, ‘How have you loved us?’ “Was not Esau Jacob’s brother?” declares the Lord. “Yet I have loved Jacob, 3 but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his hill country into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals.” 4 Edom may say, “Though we have been crushed, we will rebuild the ruins.” But this is what the Lord Almighty says: “They may build, but I will demolish. They will be called the Wicked Land, a people always under the wrath of the Lord.
This was also fufilled when Herod the Great overthrew the Hasmonian Dynasty with the help of Rome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(37_BC)
The Idumeans became the ruling class in Judea... until they were completely wiped out during the Judeo-Roman wars.
LionofJudah said:
More bullshyt, that's not backed up by scripture, nor historical fact.
More BHI talking points which can't be substantiated with facts.
The difference between us is everything I'm saying is 100% backed up by history & reputable sources. Everything you're saying was made up by high school dropouts.
again why is this stuff never taught in Sunday School or in Church period? And the term miry beside clay is very important in this discussion. Miry is a type or look to the clay. When you look up the word miry there is no question who the OG Hebrew or OG man period was.
God will still have his people.
worthy on your part).
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