Hebrew Israelite videos

[MR. SNIFLES]

I just told you. He's saying black meant to mourn, and I'm saying it meant to mourn, AND refer to skin color. he himself already said the original Israelites were black, so why deny this? Also, Jesus was out of the tribe of Judah, and the scriptures clearly describe him as a Black man. If Jesus, who came out of the tribe of Judah, was Black, it would stand to reason the rest of Judah was also.

I'M NOT DENYING ANYTHING. ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT PARTICULAR VERSE COULD POSSIBLY NOT BE TALKING ABOUT SKIN COLOR. AND IT'S POSSIBLE. PLAUSIBLE ALTERNATIVES HAVE BEEN PUT UP. YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE OTHER POSSIBILITIES FOR THAT VERSE. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US QUALIFY AS HEBREW SPECIALISTS SO WE CAN'T SAY FOR SURE. NOW IF SOMEBODY CAN POST SOME ANSWERS FROM SOME SPECIALISTS THAT WOULD GREAT BUT UNTIL THEN I CAN'T CALL IT.

 

[LionofJudah]

I'M NOT DENYING ANYTHING. ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT PARTICULAR VERSE COULD POSSIBLY NOT BE TALKING ABOUT SKIN COLOR. AND IT'S POSSIBLE. PLAUSIBLE ALTERNATIVES HAVE BEEN PUT UP. YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE OTHER POSSIBILITIES FOR THAT VERSE. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US QUALIFY AS HEBREW SPECIALISTS SO WE CAN'T SAY FOR SURE. NOW IF SOMEBODY CAN POST SOME ANSWERS FROM SOME SPECIALISTS THAT WOULD GREAT BUT UNTIL THEN I CAN'T CALL IT.

I didn't say you were denying this, you were not the topic of discussion. Your reading comprehension from just the banter we've had back and forth tells me you should probably listen, and not speak for now.

 

[LionofJudah]

The more you post, the more you show yourself to be a liar. I've literally got a physical Strong's Concordance in front of me and it says this

qadar,kaw-dar';a primitive root, to be ashy, i.e. dark-coloured; by implication to mourn (in sackcloth or sordid garments):--be black (-ish), be (make) dark(-en), X heavily, (cause to) mourn

It's essentially the same word used in Songs of Solomon 1:5

I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

It refers to Judah being Black (mourning), and their skin color, hence the reason they are 'black unto the ground.' They were Black all over...You're a god damn devil and the Most High is going to destroy you.

Notice this clown @Czar didn't address this. He'll gloss over it and go to another one of his lies.

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

I know like I stated earlier in the thread, that one word can mean numerous things, although there is generally one definition that is widely used. For someone that claims to be a follower of Christ, your works are of the devil.

WIDELY USED DOES NOT MEAN ACCURATE ALL THE TIME. THE WORD WOULD NOT HAVE A SECOND OR THIRD MEANING IF THOSE MEANINGS DID NOT APPLY SOMETIMES. YOU'RE PLACING THE WHOLE OF YOUR BELIEFS ON THIS. I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD DO BETTER THAN TO SAY THAT WORD MEANS THIS BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST USED DEFINITION OF THE WORD RATHER THAN USING THE DEFINITION THAT FITS.

YOU LIKE FAGS.

 

[Czar]

Yet you ignore the part about Moses own sister and brother getting mad because he mixed with a none Hebrew but all Israelites were down with mixing though right? And what do those fine ass chicks have to do with anything? I dont know man but it seems you have some kind of agenda with this saying on some all Hebrews were on some light skinned shyt. Common sense would say they were all different complexions of black like Egyptians after intermixing with Arabs Roman Greeks etc and present day black people. I see u though

Bruh, I used those pics of hands with skin disease to prove that one doesn't need vast amounts of melanin to produce "white skin". In no way was I attempting to say the OG hebrews were caucasian.

I also posted those women to show what centuries of intermixing typically does to the ethnic makeup of people..

I'm telling you straight up that the OG Hebrews were neither 100% black or 100% white. They were a mixed multitude. Scripture & history confirm that.

Read Genesis 21:21, Genesis 38, Exodus 2:21, Numbers 25, Numbers 31, Deuteronomy 21:10-14, Judges 14, The book of Ruth, 2 Samuel 3:3, 2 Samuel 11, 1 Kings 3:1; 11:1-3; 16:31, 2 Kings 17:24, The book of Esther, Acts 16:1-3, Acts 24:24, etc etc.

Then read up on History. See what the Persian, Greek and Roman Empires did within that region.

If you wanna agree to disagree, cool. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But what i'm showing you are facts. The truth is the truth b.

 

[observe]

So we're ignoring two things..

1. The persians conquered parts of africa and intergrated soldiers into the camps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire

I'm sure you noticed how the movie 300 correctly depicted that.

2. There had already been dark skinned/black ruling classes in Persia, just as there had been non-black ruling classes in Egypt.

So are we picking and choosing definitions now? Or pretending certain people didn't mix with others?

Those are fake Persian artifacts breh..sorry to tell you..

 

[Czar]

Notice this clown @Czar didn't address this. He'll gloss over it and go to another one of his lies.

Kedar and Qadar are two different words. Although Kedar derives from Qadar.

http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/6938.htm
Kedar is of the skin, which means swarthy or dark. It was used for Ishmael's son Kedar & the Shulamite women.


http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/6937.htm
Qadar is used in reference to mourning. I.E, To become dark/sad in reference to mourning.

 

[MaLi]

Based on the information shared in this thread:

The original Hebrews were black--- then the Romans, Greeks, Asians, and Hamites mixed with the original Hebrews. Even after all that mixing, they were depicted as black.

West Africans were black--- then the "mixed" Hebrews came down and mixed with some of the West Africans. Then the English, Portuguese, Spanish, and Native Americans mixed with West African and multiracial Hebrew slaves (in the Americas). Even after all that mixing, they're depicted as black


One group is considered "Black" and the other one isn't.



I think we have different definitions on what it is to be Black

 

[LionofJudah]

@Czar And that's not addressing the fact it also means to 'be black (-ish), be (make) dark(-en)', yet you ONLY mentioned it could mean to mourn. You're full of half-truths and lies.

 

[Czar]

Those are fake Persian artifacts breh..sorry to tell you..

Lol so if they're black, they're real.

If they're not black, they're fake.

Brilliant logic.

 

[observe]

Lol so if they're black, they're real.

If they're not black, they're fake.

Brilliant logic.

Naw they're fake

https://www.google.com/search?q=fak...Q&biw=1024&bih=672&sei=NQwfUuqBDcLcyQGm3IGIBQ

 

[Czar]

@Czar And that's not addressing the fact it also means to 'be black (-ish), be (make) dark(-en)', yet you ONLY mentioned it could mean to mourn. You're full of half-truths and lies.

Lol in reference to mourning.

http://www.karaitejudaism.org/talks/Mourning_in_the_Tanakh_Part_1.pdf

Step your research game up.

 

[Czar]

Naw they're fake

https://www.google.com/search?q=fake persian artifacts&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=LQwfUunSDtTHqAGN-YHgAQ&biw=1024&bih=672&sei=NQwfUuqBDcLcyQGm3IGIBQ

Look what happens when I type in fake black persian artifacts in google.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en....0....0...1ac.1.26.img..13.15.818.Uja2hBIc1zE

 

[LionofJudah]

Lol in reference to mourning.

http://www.karaitejudaism.org/talks/Mourning_in_the_Tanakh_Part_1.pdf

Step your research game up.

Like a snake, you continue to slither. Address what I posted, or shut the fukk up.

 

[Czar]

Like a snake, you continue to slither. Address what I posted, or shut the fukk up.

I already did smart guy.

Now refute it.

You claim to know Hebrew, this shouldn't be difficult for you.

Point out the syntax in that verse.