Hebrew Israelite videos

[observe]

So going by this logic Spain and Portugal should be black too?

You're also forgetting there were tons of non-black empires throughout the "Middle East" or Western Asia as well.

Spain and Africa are separated by a ocean breh..you can easily cross into the Middle East from Africa..plus the moors ruled Spain for like 700 years later on anyway..but the Persians, and Akkadians were black empires in the Middle East..

 

[Czar]

Spain and Africa are separated by a ocean breh..you can easily cross into the Middle East from Africa..plus the moors ruled Spain for like 700 years later on anyway..but the Persians, and Akkadians were black empires in the Middle East..

Already edited that part into my post. I knew you were going to bring it up.

My point still stands. There were many empires of different ehtnicities within the region. It wasn't just cut and dry "black" as you were implying.

 

[observe]

Already edited that part into my post. I knew you were going to bring it up.

My point still stands. There were many empires of different ehtnicities within the region. It wasn't just cut and dry "black" as you were implying.

Ya you're right..

 

[Czar]

Ya you're right..

To add on...

The Elamites (A people comprised of Shemite and Cushytes intermixing) become a RULING CLASS within the persian empire for a time. The persians themselves weren't black though.

Same deal with the Akkadians.

This is why I keep stressing to people that Western Asia was/is a mixed region. You had Japhetites mixing with Hamites, Hamites mixing with Shemites, Shemites mixing with both. It's why there is such a broad spectrum of colors over there.

 

[PoPimp84]

You DO know some of the people in those painting are 1st century Jews from Alexandria, Aka Egypt, right?

Google "Jew Fayum Portraits" so you can get a general idea of how mixed the hebrews actually were. Facts are facts b.

For t
he record, the last Israelite referred to as Adom/Admoniy or "ruddy" was Solomon and he died around 931 BC... 931 year BEFORE Jesus.

This is before the Hebrews were enslaved by the Assyrians. Before the Persian empire followed suit. Before Greece and Rome came through and crushed the buildings.

Wanna a small example of how much influence these cultures had on them outside of perhaps intermixing?

the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet was dropped in favor of the Aramaic script.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet

they had already gone through 2 before that one.

Most Jews in Alexandria didn't speak hebrew, which lead to the creation of the Septuagint/LXX by Hebrew scholars who spoke both languages.

http://www.septuagint.net

Key word SOME. You are painting the picture that ALL Hebrews were mixed and looked like the people in that link you posted and was the makeup of all of ancient Israel. The pics were from the 1st century CE and you do know ancient Egypt and ancient Israel goes back thousands of years before that right? No different from African Americans mixed for centuries with other ethnic groups but theres no mistaking we are black. There definitely was some mixing yet all Hebrews werent down with the swirl like you are so convienced of.

In the book of Numbers, chapter 12 verse 1, Moses' sister and brother, Miriam and Aaron spoke out against him because he married an Ethiopian woman, (not because she was black skinned, but because she was of another culture. / Nation) their behavior angered Yah. Verse 10 says, He TURNED MIRIAM LEPROUS, WHITE AS SNOW. Once again if Miriam, who was a Hebrew, was white to begin with, what would have been the curse of turning a white-skinned person white?

And since you want to bring up Egypt...

The Ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who visited Egypt in the 5th century B.C.E., saw the Egyptians face-to-face and described them as black-skinned with woolly hair.

Anthropologist, Count Constatin de Volney (1727-1820), spoke about the race of the Egyptians that produced the Pharaohs. He later paid tribute to Herodotus' discovery when he said:
"The ancient Egyptians were true Negroes of the same type as all native born Africans. That being so, we can see how their blood mixed for several centuries with that of the Romans and Greeks, must have lost the intensity of it's original color, while retaining none the less the imprint of its original mold. We can even state as a general principle that the face (referring to The Sphinx) is a kind of monument able, in many cases, to attest to or shed light on historical evidence on the origins of the people."

The fact that the ancient Egyptians were black-skinned prompted Volney to make the following statement:

"What a subject for meditation, just think that the race of black men today our slaves and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, science and even the use of our speech."

 

[Czar]

Key word SOME. You are painting the picture that ALL Hebrews were mixed and looked like the people in that link you posted and was the makeup of all of ancient Israel. The pics were from the 1st century CE and you do know ancient Egypt and ancient Israel goes back thousands of years before that right? No different from African Americans mixed for centuries with other ethnic groups but theres no mistaking we are black. There definitely was some mixing yet all Hebrews werent down with the swirl like you are so convienced of.

In the book of Numbers, chapter 12 verse 1, Moses' sister and brother, Miriam and Aaron spoke out against him because he married an Ethiopian woman, (not because she was black skinned, but because she was of another culture. / Nation) their behavior angered Yah. Verse 10 says, He TURNED MIRIAM LEPROUS, WHITE AS SNOW. Once again if Miriam, who was a Hebrew, was white to begin with, what would have been the curse of turning a white-skinned person white?

And since you want to bring up Egypt...

The Ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who visited Egypt in the 5th century B.C.E., saw the Egyptians face-to-face and described them as black-skinned with woolly hair.
Anthropologist, Count Constatin de Volney (1727-1820), spoke about the race of the Egyptians that produced the Pharaohs. He later paid tribute to Herodotus' discovery when he said:
"The ancient Egyptians were true Negroes of the same type as all native born Africans. That being so, we can see how their blood mixed for several centuries with that of the Romans and Greeks, must have lost the intensity of it's original color, while retaining none the less the imprint of its original mold. We can even state as a general principle that the face (referring to The Sphinx) is a kind of monument able, in many cases, to attest to or shed light on historical evidence on the origins of the people."

The fact that the ancient Egyptians were black-skinned prompted Volney to make the following statement:

"What a subject for meditation, just think that the race of black men today our slaves and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, science and even the use of our speech."

Lol once again someone quotes Herodotus....without factoring in the time in which he wrote that... Which was 440 years BEFORE the time of Jesus.

By contrast, it only took the moors 100 years to change the genetic makeup of the Sicilians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islam_in_southern_Italy

Nobody is denying the OG kemets started off black. But during the time of the messiah, Egypt was a pretty multicultural place. Especially since the Persians, Greeks and Romans all set up shop there back to back to back.

This is why understanding history is important.

 

[PoPimp84]

Breh @Czar Black people get darker when famished and white people get pale as shyt. Look at those Holocaust pics or those pics from Serbia back in the day

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

False..To assume these people are the Edomites, you would have to believe that they are the ones who are currently ruling the Earth at this point and time, which they obviously aren't.

Job 9:24
The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?

WELL YOU'RE ASSUMING YOUR VERSE IS SPEAKING OF THE CURRENT TIME NO? THING IS THERE ARE NO DATES IN THE BIBLE WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE FUTURE.

 

[PoPimp84]

Lol once again someone quotes Herodotus....without factoring in the time in which he wrote that... Which was 440 years BEFORE the time of Jesus.

By contrast, it only took the moors 100 years to change the genetic makeup of the Sicilians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islam_in_southern_Italy

Nobody is denying the OG kemets started off black. But during the time of the messiah, Egypt was a pretty multicultural place. Especially since the Persians, Greeks and Romans all set up shop there back to back to back.

This is why understanding history is important.

I understand history but u are disregarding genetics. No doubt Hebrews mixed but you dont seem to grasp that Hebrews were diferent shades BLACK. If i follow you correctly are you saying all of them would pass the paper bag test on some AKA sorority shyt back in day?

 

[observe]

Btw, The Elamites (A people comprised of Shemite and Cushytes intermixing) become a RULING CLASS within the persian empire for a time. The persians themselves weren't black though.

The persians however were generally fair skinned. Same with the akkadians.


To add on...

The Elamites (A people comprised of Shemite and Cushytes intermixing) become a RULING CLASS within the persian empire for a time. The persians themselves weren't black though.

Same deal with the Akkadians.

This is why I keep stressing to people that Western Asia was/is a mixed region. You had Japhetites mixing with Hamites, Hamites mixing with Shemites, Shemites mixing with both. It's why there is such a broad spectrum of colors over there.

The reliefs show Elamites and Akkadians with nappy beards and hair..also braids..

Here's how the Persians looked

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

MAN AND I JUST FOUND OUT MY GREAT GRANDADDY WAS A WHITE JEW. SO 1/8 MORE JEWISH THAN ALL YOU GUYS.

 

[Czar]

Key word SOME. You are painting the picture that ALL Hebrews were mixed and looked like the people in that link you posted and was the makeup of all of ancient Israel. The pics were from the 1st century CE and you do know ancient Egypt and ancient Israel goes back thousands of years before that right? No different from African Americans mixed for centuries with other ethnic groups but theres no mistaking we are black. There definitely was some mixing yet all Hebrews werent down with the swirl like you are so convienced of.

In the book of Numbers, chapter 12 verse 1, Moses' sister and brother, Miriam and Aaron spoke out against him because he married an Ethiopian woman, (not because she was black skinned, but because she was of another culture. / Nation) their behavior angered Yah. Verse 10 says, He TURNED MIRIAM LEPROUS, WHITE AS SNOW. Once again if Miriam, who was a Hebrew, was white to begin with, what would have been the curse of turning a white-skinned person white?

Ah, Lemme tackle these two sections as well.

First...

One doesn't need mass amounts of melanin for skin to appear "white" due to skin disease/act of god.

Second..

Would you consider these women to be african?

 

[PoPimp84]

Lol once again someone quotes Herodotus....without factoring in the time in which he wrote that... Which was 440 years BEFORE the time of Jesus.

By contrast, it only took the moors 100 years to change the genetic makeup of the Sicilians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islam_in_southern_Italy

Nobody is denying the OG kemets started off black. But during the time of the messiah, Egypt was a pretty multicultural place. Especially since the Persians, Greeks and Romans all set up shop there back to back to back.

This is why understanding history is important.

And you ignored my quote from Count Constatin de Volney whose quote was made well after Jesus

 

[LionofJudah]

But yeah...

Here's another misquoted verse: Jeremiah 14:2 (KJV).

Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.

http://biblehub.com/lexicon/jeremiah/14-2.htm
^In Hebrew

The Hebrew word there, qadar, means to MOURN or become dark/sad in reference to mourning. Skintone is not being implied at all.
http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/6937.htm

The correct translation would be:

Judah mourns, and her gates languish; her people lament on the ground, and the cry of Jerusalem goes up.


This is why understanding the languages of scripture is important. Cause everything you're posting is a reach.

I should know. I was IN the BHI. I can spot the talking points and terrible exegesis a mile away.

The more you post, the more you show yourself to be a liar. I've literally got a physical Strong's Concordance in front of me and it says this

qadar,kaw-dar';a primitive root, to be ashy, i.e. dark-coloured; by implication to mourn (in sackcloth or sordid garments):--be black (-ish), be (make) dark(-en), X heavily, (cause to) mourn

It's essentially the same word used in Songs of Solomon 1:5

I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

It refers to Judah being Black (mourning), and their skin color, hence the reason they are 'black unto the ground.' They were Black all over...You're a god damn devil and the Most High is going to destroy you.

 

[PoPimp84]

Ah, Lemme tackle these two sections as well.

First...

One doesn't need mass amounts of melanin for skin to appear "white" due to skin disease/act of god.

Second..

Would you consider these women to be african?

Yet you ignore the part about Moses own sister and brother getting mad because he mixed with a none Hebrew but all Israelites were down with mixing though right? And what do those fine ass chicks have to do with anything? I dont know man but it seems you have some kind of agenda with this saying on some all Hebrews were on some light skinned shyt. Common sense would say they were all different complexions of black like Egyptians after intermixing with Arabs Roman Greeks etc and present day black people. I see u though