Healthcare in Africa on brink of crisis as US exits WHO and USAid freezes funds

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There’s a fair bit of ignorance on aid in this thread. I can’t comment on long term development programmes which do have much more political aims and strings attached but humanitarian aid is a different thing entirely. And the idea American humanitarian funding isn’t beneficial or liked in places it’s spent is ridiculous

The US are the biggest donors in emergencies and it is spent/ used by organisations USAID give it to with the humanitarian mandate in use (neutrality, impartiality and independence). Now the US will be selective in where money goes to a degree (see Ukraine) but the US spends millions keeping people alive from DRC, Mali and north east Nigeria to Gaza, Yemen and Syria. Now we can always dig deep and say ‘well America is the source of the problem’ but the humanitarian mandate doesn’t give a shyt about that. Its role is to help people stay alive and hopefully move back to normality. And this isn’t a sort of nice to have. I’ve worked my entire adult life in the humanitarian sector and when money dries up people die. So yeh US not providing UN funds to provide food in South Sudan or give money to an INGO to keep clean water running in Gaza, that has massive impact on families ability to live.

At the macro level sure there’s political reasons for the purpose of USAID but although it’s a fukked up system where western states keep refugees and displaced people alive, currently in the present system if the money stops, the clean water stops, the food stops. Shutting down USAID will have major repercussions.
Quoting this post from HL.
 

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China will build some shyt for you and make you pay a lease above market rate but they ain’t spending money to make sure people have food and contraceptives.
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One thing i get out that chart is...

:salute: to bill and melinda gates. Showing these other bytch ass billionaires like elon musk how things should be done
 

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Ok, b
Many former African countries were, despite getting their independence, are still In what you call colonial economical enslavement.

Many former colonies were still forced to use their European monetary systems in exchange for their 'freedom'. And many times they also had to prop up puppets of leaders that were very friendly to their former colonial powers to get restrictions lifted. France was/is notorious for that shyt

Look up the Francis Franc monetary system

Congo never really recovered from the atrocities Belgium pulled.
Ok, but at what point does the blaming stop and the rebuilding of the country occur?
 

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Sad, but let's be real how long are these African nations going to behave like children of the west. Get rid of all these trash ass alliances that serve to do nothing but enrich the corrupt leaders making the deals and become self sufficient. Imagine how much of that aid money was getting stolen in Nigeria of all places, mf normal citizens probably didn't even know that aid existed.
 

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Ok, b

Ok, but at what point does the blaming stop and the rebuilding of the country occur?

America took damn near 100 years after the Civil War to be stable.

Unfortunately I don't have the answers. But a lot of countries in Africa do exceptionally well.
 

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Now they'll be forced back into the hands of their Europeans colonizers for help :beli:
they’re already there.

I think donnie is the devil but Nigeria’s stinking rich no way they can’t pay their own medical bills.

They don’t even have super HIV cases like that.
 

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Sad, but let's be real how long are these African nations going to behave like children of the west. Get rid of all these trash ass alliances that serve to do nothing but enrich the corrupt leaders making the deals and become self sufficient. Imagine how much of that aid money was getting stolen in Nigeria of all places, mf normal citizens probably didn't even know that aid existed.
exactly Doctors in Kenya went on strike Twice for non payment way before this kicked in.
 

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Ppl dont realize USAID was actually a way for the US to soft power their way to raw materials…why does everybody think China has an interest in Africa?

One is Electronic/Hybrid Vehicles….theres many more

You scratch my back i’ll scratch yours
 

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NEW SUBSTACK: Foreign aid is surprisingly popular

There's a line of argument going around that Trump and Musk went after USAID first because they wanted an easy target and foreign aid is unpopular.

I have a new post on how that's not really true



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@TimH_B
People like David Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel would have you believe foreign aid is uniquely unpopular.

But when you look at polling, both from recent years and the polling from the last week, you see that a minority of Americans oppose foreign aid

[Quoted tweet]
Most Americans support U.S. foreign aid — even some Republicans
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@TimH_B
It's not a slam dunk, and public opinion on foreign aid is hampered by limited knowledge and contradictions.

But in the grand scheme of government programs, it's hardly out of the ordinary



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@TimH_B
So, Americans feel relatively positively towards foreign aid when they think about it, but they don’t think about it very much.

I think visibility is foreign aid's core vulnerability: not that it doesn't benefit Americans, but that these benefits aren't immediately visible



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@TimH_B
Self-interest can be interpreted in multiple ways, and people care about a lot more than self-interest.

More granular polling shows that humanitarian concerns often outrank traditional ideas of the national interest



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Because Americans don't know or think that much about foreign aid, their views are malleable.

At a moment when foreign aid is in the news, it's crucial to make sure that they are hearing stories of USAID saving lives and making us safer, not a torrent of lies about waste



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TLDR: don't concede the point that foreign aid is unpopular, because it's not (even if public opinion is nuanced).

Full post here, including an update on the USAID legal fights that I wrote about last time.

Please consider reading and subscribing 🙂
Foreign Aid Is Surprisingly Popular




To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
 

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those foreign aid polls are popular on the surface but easy to manipulate emotions: "why are we giving foreign aid when people need help here?" frame it another way "do you think the govt should help poor countries?" why yes of course i'm a good person. but it doesn't mean shyt and they know it so gut it and watch people accept it.
 
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