Has any modern basketball players career had more help around him than Kobe?
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pau is a hall of famer how?
maybe if he gets 2/3 more rings
maybe if he gets 2/3 more rings
Cant blame Kobe for being surrounded with great talent..he plays for a great franchise with a competent GM. Mitch makes moves and gets players that enable us to compete for titles on a yearly basis. Maybe some of you in here are aggy cause your GMs cant make the necessary moves to win
naah no one is blaming kobe breh..he aint do anything wrong
but how many players played with this amount of bigs
howard shaq gasol bynum
a 38 year-old Shaq? Besides Wade and Bosh, that list is straight trash... full of over-the-hill players and role players.
Are you trolling or you're just stupid?
Word because Payton and Malone were in their primes. I'm just using the same logic threadstarter is using.
Kobe played with 9 all stars at age 34
Bron has had
Mo Williams
Jamison
Shaq
Dwyane Wade
Juwan Howard
Chris Bosh
Big Z
Ben Wallace
Jamal Magloire
Jerry Stackhouse
at age 28
You can add Ray Allen & Rashard Lewis to that now.
I'm indifferent to this thread. Just trolls trolling & nikkas who have no intention whatsoever of hearing the other side. If you support Bron teaming up with Bosh & Wade, then bringing in Allen & Lewis but, have problems with LA trying to compete with that then we have nothing to talk about
You got Bron & Wade both commanding doubles, Bosh spacing the floor pulling the big men out, Ray Allen/Rashard Lewis/Mario Chalmers who will be wide the fukk open
plus Haslem & Battier for grunt work. Yall nikkas should be the LAST nikkas to be complaining. Is the league supposed to just sit back & let yall win? 
superunknown23
Superstar
Drazen Petrovic is in, despite never being an All-Star
FIBA will definitely guarantee him a spot.
difference between Kobe and Lebron is that Kobe stayed on the same team and let his FO do work while Bron ran like a ho to team up with two other all stars. The fact that Kobe has had many all stars with him says a lot about him and the respect his peers have for him.
Was it 2006-2007 that Kobe Bryant finally wasnt surrounded with Allstars...and the team was like 41-41?? During Kobes "Prime" (28 years old)
Then u put Lebron on a team with no help (his whole career in Cleveland) and they made the finals and had 60 win seasons
lebron's scrubs were better players than kobe's scrubs. I don't know how I can be anymore clear, all scrubs are not equal.
eh, perhaps off of international ball. drazen's death probably played a role with his induction even though it was in 02, no hate to drazen, hes a legend.
i dont think people are referencing his fiba stature, but his nba ability when saying hes a hof'er relative to his position in kobe's career though, and pau's nba resume is not hof worthy. if kobe won a ring with z-bo, they'd be saying the same thing about z-bo, but instead it was pau, so pau is a hofer and z-bo isnt, presumably. i dont see many making the claim he is.
qwerty_jones
Rookie
He became a star after doesn't really count.
Haven't read through the thread but having luxury of playing with Shaq, Gasol, And Howard all in thier prime is unheard of.
Gasol is a future hall of famer
He made ONE all star team before Kobe and didn't win a playoff game
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Gasol is a future hall of famer
ONLY because of international play, not his NBA play. The Naismith Basketball HOF isn't only for NBA players Stymie.
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a 38 year-old Shaq? Besides Wade and Bosh, that list is straight trash... full of over-the-hill players and role players.
Are you trolling or you're just stupid?
Did you say te same to the TS or other's list? Or is it different? Nope, it's the same dumb logic. Are you trolling as usual or just plain stupid?
so having wade bosh ray allen>>>>shaq howard gasol bynum nash
really kobe stans
really kobe stans