Has any modern basketball players career had more help around him than Kobe?

[Jesus Is Lord]

You forgot Mitch Richmond, Bynum, Artest, Caron Butler, Theo Ratliff and Vlade Divac

Ratliff, 35 year old Richmond, and Divac

Nice! Now THIS is how you dudes supposed to troll.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

so having wade bosh ray allen>>>>shaq howard gasol bynum nash


really kobe stans

At the same damn time? Yeah

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Kobe played with 9 all stars at age 34

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eh, perhaps off of international ball. drazen's death probably played a role with his induction even though it was in 02, no hate to drazen, hes a legend.

i dont think people are referencing his fiba stature, but his nba ability when saying hes a hof'er relative to his position in kobe's career though, and pau's nba resume is not hof worthy. if kobe won a ring with z-bo, they'd be saying the same thing about z-bo, but instead it was pau, so pau is a hofer and z-bo isnt, presumably. i dont see many making the claim he is.

This is really stupid. Guess what? Kobe didn't win rings with Z-Bo, and there's no guarantee than he would have if the Lakers had gotten him instead. You know who Kobe DID win rings with? Pau Gasol. So he gets credit. That's how it works. There's also no guarantee that Kobe would have won again if the Lakers hadn't raped the Grizz for Gasol, either.

Let's not forget that Kobe was ready to leave and join some other team just like Lebron...and he would have left the Lakers, not drab ass Cleveland, AND its not like he was a free agent like Lebron. No, he was actually demanding a trade. So that's actually much worse than what Lebron did. The ONLY difference is that Lakers management was able to lure more players in to play with Kobe on the Lakers, so he took back his trade demand and he stayed. That's it. None of this "Kobe is his own man while Lebron has to join other teams" bullshyt. Circumstance is the only thing that separated them.

As for Gasol, he is absolutely a HOF'er based on his NBA resume. His numbers and winning back to back titles (and possibly more on the way) is already better than some players in the Hall. Not to mention that he's in automatically just for being the greatest player ever from his home country.

 

[IGSaint12]

so having wade bosh ray allen>>>>shaq howard gasol bynum nash


really kobe stans

How you just gonna slip in shaq like that and bynum is gone. Wade, Bosh, Ray are playing with lebron right now..

 

[Vancouver Grizzly Fan]

You forgot Mitch Richmond, Bynum, Artest, Caron Butler, Theo Ratliff and Vlade Divac

Kobe carried all of them guys as well when they didn't pull their weight. Fisher can co-sign this.

 

[CantStop]

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This is really stupid. Guess what? Kobe didn't win rings with Z-Bo, and there's no guarantee than he would have if the Lakers had gotten him instead. You know who Kobe DID win rings with? Pau Gasol. So he gets credit. That's how it works. There's also no guarantee that Kobe would have won again if the Lakers hadn't raped the Grizz for Gasol, either.

Let's not forget that Kobe was ready to leave and join some other team just like Lebron...and he would have left the Lakers, not drab ass Cleveland, AND its not like he was a free agent like Lebron. No, he was actually demanding a trade. So that's actually much worse than what Lebron did. The ONLY difference is that Lakers management was able to lure more players in to play with Kobe on the Lakers, so he took back his trade demand and he stayed. That's it. None of this "Kobe is his own man while Lebron has to join other teams" bullshyt. Circumstance is the only thing that separated them.

As for Gasol, he is absolutely a HOF'er based on his NBA resume. His numbers and winning back to back titles (and possibly more on the way) is already better than some players in the Hall. Not to mention that he's in automatically just for being the greatest player ever from his home country.

Lebron has played with 12 all stars in 7 less years.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

At the same damn time? Yeah

nash gasol howard>>wade bosh ray

and were looking at the totality of kobes career..majority of his career he played with great players...minus the 2yrs he had kwame brown..and we know how he demanded a trade during that

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Ratliff, 35 year old Richmond, and Divac

Nice! Now THIS is how you dudes supposed to troll.

I'm not trolling, I'm just factually listing all the players that made all-star teams that Kobe played with at some point. OP didn't list any qualifiers or anything and already listed other players that were by the time they played with Kobe so we might as well be accurate.

 

[YBE]

so having wade bosh ray allen>>>>shaq howard gasol bynum nash


really kobe stans

Why are you comparing several LA rosters to one Miami roster?

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

nash gasol howard>>wade bosh ray

and were looking at the totality of kobes career..majority of his career he played with great players...minus the 2yrs he had kwame brown..and we know how he demanded a trade during that

Wade and Bosh are in their primes, only Howard is in his prime. Hence Lebron saying they would win 7 rings together. Nash and Pau aren't even gonna play 4 more seasons, Nash about to be 40.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Wade and Bosh are in their primes, only Howard is in his prime. Hence Lebron saying they would win 7 rings together. Nash and Pau aren't even gonna play 4 more seasons, Nash about to be 40.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

I'm not trolling, I'm just factually listing all the players that made all-star teams that Kobe played with at some point. OP didn't list any qualifiers or anything and already listed other players that were by the time they played with Kobe so we might as well be accurate.

Listing Divac, Ratliff and Mitch is trolling because they didn't help Kobe at all. why don't you factually list all-stars who played with Kobe in their primes.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Andrew Bynum didn't play in the 08' playoffs.

And in the 09'/10' playoffs

7 points/3rebounds per game

That nikka was a non factor on the title Teams, but it you listen to nikkaz he was prime shaq

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Wade the turned 30 still an all-star.

Also comment on the rest of my post. Of course you won't.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Andrew Bynum didn't play in the 08' playoffs.

And in the 09'/10' playoffs

7 points/3rebounds per game

That nikka was a non factor on the title Teams, but it you listen to nikkaz he was prime shaq

They know this already, they just choose to be dumb.