Handcuffed inmate beaten to death. What purpose we want prison to serve?

[Jean toomer]

If you want to have any reasonable discussion about modern prison systems and the purpose they serve, I’d suggest reading Foucault. I go back to the principles and ideas often. You will understand why and how a man is beaten to death in prison.

 

[Kasgoinjail]

If you want to have any reasonable discussion about modern prison systems and the purpose they serve, I’d suggest reading Foucault. I go back to the principles and ideas often. You will understand why and how a man is beaten to death in prison.

Have u ever read the Zimbardo prison experiment?

 

[Jean toomer]

Have u ever read the Zimbardo prison experiment?

No I have not, but have just read a few summaries. Basically he recruited Stanford students and subjected them to brutal prison conditions for a few days before the ethics committees shut it down. The outcomes are interesting but I think its difficult to understand the results because:
1. Normal students were recruited and paid
2. The guards were given instructions and knew they were being watched (guards who beat the man to death turned off their body cams)
3. I read that the outcomes have never been reproduced.
Thanks for pointing this out. Never heard of this experiment. Zimbardo was a wild dude, even he admitted he should’ve shut the study down sooner because the guards started wilding on those kids.

 

[Pazzy]

Sad to say this but this isnt a shocker. Theres stories of bodies being found in the back of some of those upstate ny prisons, officers beating inmates half to death or worse, inmatea disappearing and all sorts of shyt that will make you think twice about doing anything to go to jail or prison.

 

[Kasgoinjail]

No I have not, but have just read a few summaries. Basically he recruited Stanford students and subjected them to brutal prison conditions for a few days before the ethics committees shut it down. The outcomes are interesting but I think its difficult to understand the results because:
1. Normal students were recruited and paid
2. The guards were given instructions and knew they were being watched (guards who beat the man to death turned off their body cams)
3. I read that the outcomes have never been reproduced.
Thanks for pointing this out. Never heard of this experiment. Zimbardo was a wild dude, even he admitted he should’ve shut the study down sooner because the guards started wilding on those kids.

Its a good example of not only unethical practice in psychological methodology
And also how social norms and roles are constructed all the while questioning true Agency

Thanks for bringing up Focault it's a name I haven't heard since I was 17

Also look at I think Milton has some good studies on this

 

[Sterling Archer]

I'll disagree with this slightly...

The inmates on some respectful shyt don't have a hard stay from officers. It's the ones who were victimizing people on the streets and are still victimizing people in prison who catch hell from officers. Because there's a mentality that's attached to their behavior.

A mentality of "im going do wtf i want even in here and I'm still that same person I always was, no one can control or punish me".

Inmates with non-violent crimes are trying to do their time, make some money, and go home.

You have no idea wtf you are talking about.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

 

[Jean toomer]

Its a good example of not only unethical practice in psychological methodology
And also how social norms and roles are constructed all the while questioning true Agency

Thanks for bringing up Focault it's a name I haven't heard since I was 17

Also look at I think Milton has some good studies on this

Reading Foucault, like Nietzsche, at 17 can do dark things to your mind. Glad you survived

I’ll definitely look into Milton. Cheers

 

[Kasgoinjail]

Reading Foucault, like Nietzsche, at 17 can do dark things to your mind. Glad you survived

I’ll definitely look into Milton. Cheers

Yes
Definitely allowed me to realise how dark the human mind can get and the lengths people will go to understand it can be even darker.


Imagine the covert psychological experimentation and manipulation those in custody are subject to...
Most welcome and much respect.

 

[Mowgli]

Prison is just a continuation of plantation culture.

 

[sportscribe]

Sad shyt man. That's why it's always best to stay out of a life of crime.

That's an interesting perspective, but what crime was committed by say - Rodney King Jr. that warranted him to be brutally beaten at the hands of LAPD?

What if an inmate is wrongfully convicted and receives the same treatment?

I don't think it should be as cut and dry as saying "stay away from crime", when those that have sworn to uphold the law abuse it to the furthest extent.

 

[King_Kamala61]

That's an interesting perspective, but what crime was committed by say - Rodney King Jr. that warranted him to be brutally beaten at the hands of LAPD?

What if an inmate is wrongfully convicted and receives the same treatment?

I don't think it should be as cut and dry as saying "stay away from crime", when those that have sworn to uphold the law abuse it to the furthest extent.

Ain't shyt gon change....

That's what they supposed to do and yes, as black folk it's hard to just avoid jail, but that's how it is until we ready to die fighting.

This is why voting for Kamala Devi Harris made 0 sense cause not one time did she speak on the Police while campaigning, not one time and she had at least 2 police murders during her campaign run and multiple since she was Vice President and she is called a Top Cop.

There is literally nothing we can do to resolve this hell bent system that affects, not immediately or within 50 yrs. We would literally have to produce black politicians who are on code and can win political races and become judges that are war bound to change the system.

 

[WIA20XX]

You have no idea wtf you are talking about.

Yeah, he's not really trying to have a serious discussion.

 

[Him]

They should have fired the nurses too

 

[Dzali OG]

You have no idea wtf you are talking about.

I know from 1st hand experience. I've worked in several prisons.