Guns, Germs, and Steel

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Another smart dumb nikka :mjkkk:
Didn't you see where I said bar North Africa and byzantine lands?
I'll give you Sudan tho. Get back to me when you find out how the universe came to be

I don't claim to know...but lets just go with Yahweh failing twice to tell humans to follow his advice and instead he's just gonna come back some time down the road

 

[thekingsmen]

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saw yall in that other thread. any option on this?

Kemet is right. Europeans sold weapons to beefing tribes and let them kill each other. The West Tribes of Africa did have ships and sailed many places...including the continent we call North America.

 

[theworldismine13]

Kemet is right. Europeans sold weapons to beefing tribes and let them kill each other. The West Tribes of Africa did have ships and sailed many places...including the continent we call North America.

hmm so what was so special about the weapons if they werent more advanced then the weapons the africans had? how were the europeans able to to bargain if they had nothing to offer?

and why do people ignore time frames?

during the time frame of the 1500's west africa had no ships and the advanced empires had dissipated, so when the portuguese and spanish came in their ships,they had a huge technological advantage

 

[thekingsmen]

hmm so what was so special about the weapons if they werent more advanced then the weapons the africans had? how were the europeans able to to bargain if they had nothing to offer?

and why do people ignore time frames?

during the time frame of the 1500's west africa had no ships and the advanced empires had dissipated, so when the portuguese and spanish came in their ships,they had a huge technological advantage

Im responding to a post that ask for me...I wasn't checking for time-lines.

 

[theworldismine13]

Im responding to a post that ask for me...I wasn't checking for time-lines.

oh my bad, you were responding to a cry for help, i forgot

 

[surv2syn]

Firearm isn't advanced tech?

Steel axes ain't advanced? I guess you prefer brittle iron tools with dull edges?

muhfukka, I said "to me". that chit is advanced to a youngling mind of a johnny-cum-lately ass nikka. A muhfukkin pyramid is advanced science built by advanced tech. Lemme see you build one.

technology like money or anything else is RELATIVE. still....its not the technology of weaponry that always wins battles. its the methodology and strategy. if you fighting with guns...naturally you would have an advantage over someone who is not accustomed to or familiar with that type of warfare. for everyone that supplied arms there had to be some training involved. its all relative.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

muhfukka, I said "to me". that chit is advanced to a youngling mind of a johnny-cum-lately ass nikka. A muhfukkin pyramid is advanced science built by advanced tech. Lemme see you build one.

technology like money or anything else is RELATIVE. still....its not the technology of weaponry that always wins battles. its the methodology and strategy. if you fighting with guns...naturally you would have an advantage over someone who is not accustomed to or familiar with that type of warfare. its all relative.

...i'm still not understanding you.

technology is merely the substitution of efficiency towards a goal.

If your goal is to coerce or to kill, guns do a better job of than than swords.

I don't really understand what you're rambling about.

 

[surv2syn]

i think divide and conquer was definitely in the mix, but lets talk about HOW they divided and conquered, the number #1 way is through offering one tribe arms or allegiance or manufactured goods, divide and conquer is based on the fact that the europeans had something valuable, and that something was technology and manufactured good and advanced weapons which made them valuable allies

and the same thing with ghadafi, who i am glad is gone, but any politics around ghadafii was based on the fact that western nations had technology that enabled them to drop bombs on him anytime and anywhere they wanted

the notion that technology is secondary or minor is nutty, technology is one of the main forces that drive and decide conflicts

thats why I said we on a different frequency and wavelength. Technology and anything else is always secondary to mental capacity. You cant make a firearm without brains to conceptualize the shyt. this is why military strategies of those such as Hannibal are still studied. The mind is primary over anything else. Thats what wins battles and wars. And there are many DnC tactics ranging from class-ism to light-skinned/dark-skinned. You think technology was the death-knell of Qaddafi? then you dont know chit!

 

[theworldismine13]

...i'm still not understanding you.

technology is merely the substitution of efficiency towards a goal.

If your goal is to coerce or to kill, guns do a better job of than than swords.

I don't really understand what you're rambling about.

the pyramid technology that has been lost for 6000 years and his little to no connection to the yaruba and igbo of west africa in 1500AD is a nice little comforting blanky for some of these dudes

 

[surv2syn]

...i'm still not understanding you.

technology is merely the substitution of efficiency towards a goal.

If your goal is to coerce or to kill, guns do a better job of than than swords.

I don't really understand what you're rambling about.

I thought I said earlier it was simply an means to an end.

so you think whoever has the "greater" technology always wins?

 

[theworldismine13]

thats why I said we on a different frequency and wavelength. Technology and anything else is always secondary to mental capacity. You cant make a firearm without brains to conceptualize the shyt. this is why military strategies of those such as Hannibal are still studied. The mind is primary over anything else. Thats what wins battles and wars. And there are many DnC tactics ranging from class-ism to light-skinned/dark-skinned. You think technology was the death-knell of Qaddafi? then you dont know chit!

so you are saying the europeans had greater mental capacity and greater ability to conceptualize than the africans?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I thought I said earlier it was simply an means to an end.

so you think whoever has the "greater" technology always wins?

what are you talking about?

I'm not saying "tech wins"

i'm saying that there is a degree of complexity and efficiency that MUST be acknowledged whether you like it or not.

call it tech or call it creativity. I don't give a fukk.

At the end of the day, europeans had certain shyt that others didn't.

End of story.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

so you are saying the europeans had greater mental capacity and greater ability to conceptualize than the africans?

uh...with the division of labor that arises from agriculture and idle time of citizens...yes. Inevitably.

If a civilization fulfills the basic needs of most of its inhabitants, theres more time for other things

 

[surv2syn]

so you are saying the europeans had greater mental capacity and greater ability to conceptualize than the africans?

not at all. dont put words in my mouth and dont try and cheapen what I said. if you are not accustomed to a certain brand of warfare it doesnt mean that you have less mental capacity. you cant tell me Africans saw the chit coming....and dont tell me Europeans didnt devise plans to carry out their actions. Just as with today....if it were implied that Europeans can go on an extermination path using weaponry be it chemical or otherwise and that strategy be overt do you think they could accomplish such a goal? No. It has to be calculated and covert. The physical aspect is always secondary.

 

[surv2syn]

what are you talking about?

I'm not saying "tech wins"

i'm saying that there is a degree of complexity and efficiency that MUST be acknowledged whether you like it or not.

call it tech or call it creativity. I don't give a fukk.

At the end of the day, europeans had certain shyt that others didn't.

End of story.

they always did. its called tricknology. its called savagery. its distributing smallpox through blankets passed off as gifts then saying the whole thing is a hoax. Europeans of the past are the most barbaric people in history....and they rarely needed superior weaponry to prove that.