Great article on white working class rejecting Dems

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@Pressure and @CrimsonTider have turned this thread into shyt. They know they got owned on the facts, so they're creating ridiculous strawmen and deflections.

Facts.

I've been trying to stay out of this shyt, but it's so frustrating to see the bullshyt @Pressure and @CrimsonTider are pushing and not say something. Who moderates this place? How are these dudes constantly just trolling, shytposting and arguing in bad faith constantly in a section called Higher Learning? They just keep on getting dunked on over and over again, just to come around with some more bullshyt and deflections. Embarrassing.
I can't stand you arrogant liberal scumbags.

 

[Pressure]

I'm sorry @Rhakim, but always going to question your opinions about "WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTERS".

Admittedly, you grew up in white neighborhoods and your first experience in predominantly black areas was as an Ivey league graduate trying to “live close to the people you work with.”

While that might be admirable on some level, I just don’t think you have much experience with the people you champion as being available and it shows.

 

[Pressure]

Facts.

I've been trying to stay out of this shyt, but it's so frustrating to see the bullshyt @Pressure and @CrimsonTider are pushing and not say something. Who moderates this place? How are these dudes constantly just trolling, shytposting and arguing in bad faith constantly in a section called Higher Learning? They just keep on getting dunked on over and over again, just to come around with some more bullshyt and deflections. Embarrassing.
I can't stand you arrogant liberal scumbags.

I know you think this is going to make you look cool, but the guys you’ve been dikk riding have been wrong about everything since I’ve joined this site

 

[rantanamo]

Lol.all these excuses. Culture? Lol. What culture does the avg southern white blue collar worker share with Donald Trump? Mitch McConnell. This is no different than the civil war. Whites like to say most of them owned no slaves,yet they fought a war for rich people that had nothing in common with them. Not ecenomic commonality. They didn't attend the same churches. Rich white America shares cultculture with poor white America. You know what's the common link is.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

@the cac mamba catching strays for no reason

There’s always a reason

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I'm sorry @Rhakim, but always going to question your opinions about "WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTERS".

Admittedly, you grew up in white neighborhoods and your first experience in predominantly black areas was as an Ivey league graduate trying to “live close to the people you work with.”

While that might be admirable on some level, I just don’t think you have much experience with the people you champion as being available and it shows.

This is why you look like a clown. You got completely owned on the objective facts, so you just delved into lies and ad hominins.


Your dumbass deflection is illogical as fukk too - you're trying to claim (falsely) that I'm an Ivy League grad who spent his entire upbringing in white working class neighborhoods and thus.....it follows that I wouldn't understand white working-class people? How does that even make sense?


Stop deflecting. Stop lying. If you have information and insight on a topic then give it, if you don't have shyt to contribute then just refrain from posting until you find a topic you have something useful to say on.

Do you have so little self-awareness that you can't see you've looked like a fool in this thread to everyone other than the WOAT you rushed in to White Knight for?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Facts.

I've been trying to stay out of this shyt, but it's so frustrating to see the bullshyt @Pressure and @CrimsonTider are pushing and not say something. Who moderates this place? How are these dudes constantly just trolling, shytposting and arguing in bad faith constantly in a section called Higher Learning? They just keep on getting dunked on over and over again, just to come around with some more bullshyt and deflections. Embarrassing.
I can't stand you arrogant liberal scumbags.

I know you think this is going to make you look cool, but the guys you’ve been dikk riding have been wrong about everything since I’ve joined this site

Notice that he couldn't defend his falsehoods in the thread, he couldn't defend his behavior in the thread, he just pivoted to a random, baseless ad hominem without receipts.

That is who he is. Every time.

 

[Pressure]

Notice that he couldn't defend his falsehoods in the thread, he couldn't defend his behavior in the thread, he just pivoted to a random, baseless ad hominem without receipts.

That is who he is. Every time.

Here’s your first mistake. You think people want to waste their time having these purely pseudo academic discussions with you.

Youre a wannabe cultural critic, but want the respect of someone who has accomplished something.

I believe your view on the American electorate is wrong simply because the people you support aren’t succeeding.

You have a million excuses why establishment dems aren’t good, but you can’t explain why your preferred candidates keep losing.

The reality is we’re in a thread about how to win over voters like @the cac mamba , but he is diametrically opposed to all your ideas.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Here’s your first mistake. You think people want to waste their time having these purely pseudo academic discussions with you.

Youre a wannabe cultural critic, but want the respect of someone who has accomplished something.

I believe your view on the American electorate is wrong simply because the people you support aren’t succeeding.

You have a million excuses why establishment dems aren’t good, but you can’t explain why your preferred candidates keep losing.

The reality is we’re in a thread about how to win over voters like @the cac mamba , but he is diametrically opposed to all your ideas.

Again, wild-ass deflections and ad hominems mixed in with ample lies.


Pointing out the exact places elections were won and the exact voters who voted for them is not "pseudo academic".


I listed the states where Dems had won statewide elections and showed with the exit polls where the votes came from. That's not rocket science. But it challenges the complete bullshyt you and 'bama made up in your head with no receipts, so you decided it was too intellectual to discuss honestly.

 

[Pressure]

Again, wild-ass deflections and ad hominems mixed in with ample lies.


Pointing out the exact places elections were won and the exact voters who voted for them is not "pseudo academic".


I listed the states where Dems had won statewide elections and showed with the exit polls where the votes came from. That's not rocket science. But it challenges the complete bullshyt you and 'bama made up in your head with no receipts, so you decided it was too intellectual to discuss honestly.

My guy. Are you still arguing that Obama didn’t win do to a historical turnout of black voters?

 

[Pressure]

Argue with yourself you sanctimonious clown

Trump won the election because he won Wisconsin by 0.8%, Pennsylvania by 0.7%, and Michigan by 0.2%.

Black voter turnout declined 19% in Wisconsin from 2012 to 2016. That decline is 1.3% of the total voter turnout, larger than the 0.8% gap.

Pennsylvania is 11% Black. So there even a 7-8% decline in Black turnout could have made the difference.

Michigan is 14% Black. So even a 2% shift in Black voter turnout could have made the difference there.

Black people can certainly shift elections in purple states like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Make or break Florida too with 16%, plus North Carolina, Ohio, Nevada, and even Minnesota. Black people are what are holding Virgina in the blue column right now. If Black turnout was huge in Georgia with 31% of the population there that state could flip too. Even in a deep red state like Alabama the Black turnout was enough to make the difference in the last Senate election.


Just counting Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Nevada, Minnesota, Virginia, and Georgia, that's 153 electoral votes in purple states that could be swayed one way or the other by Black voters. That's more than half of what a presidential candidate needs to win.

You could also make arguments that D.C., New Jersey, Maryland, Illinois, Delaware, and Colorado are getting held as strong blue states in part by Black voters right now. Or that if there was ever a blue wave in Indiana, Missouri, Mississippi, or Louisiana, Black voters would be a big part of it.

It's defeatist to say that Black people can't make a difference at the polls. There are a lot of states where Black people do make a difference. The vote just has to be used effectively.

@CrimsonTider
What was he saying about the black vote to you and calling you all sorts of idiots and shyt?

 

[Pressure]

@Rhakim in TLR:
Hillary lost and Obama won on the strength of black voters

@Wokehim in HL:
“ Obama won on the strength of white working class voters. Just look at the exit polls, black peoples couldn’t have made a difference.”

Clown posting.

Your desire to be right or the smartest man in the wrong has you consistently contradicting yourself.

I

 

[Pressure]

And here I am wasting my time going back and forth with a guy who was just thumping his chest about being recognized by these establishment dem mayors and writing a book for a publisher that will never see the light of day

 

[Professor Emeritus]

My guy. Are you still arguing that Obama didn’t win do to a historical turnout of black voters?

I have never argued that, liar. And that particular lie has already been called out in this thread yet you are repeating it.

I argued that Obama won with historical Black turnout AND with lots of support from working-class white voters in critical states.

I specifically argued that in white-ass Iowa, the working-class white support was an order of magnitude more important than the 3% of the electorate that was Black.

You can't address my actual argument, so you deflect, insult, and lie

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Argue with yourself you sanctimonious clown


@CrimsonTider
What was he saying about the black vote to you and calling you all sorts of idiots and shyt?

You're previously bragged that you have a six-figure income and run a business. Thus I'm guessing you have some degree of critical thinking. That means that your lies and misrepresentations in this thread are intentional and can't be due to mere ignorance.



Can the Black vote flip an election? YES!

Can the working-class White vote flip an election? YES!

Do the Dems need both kinds of support to win particular swing states that have around 85-95% White electorates? YES!



Pointing out that a drop in Black turnout hurt Hillary doesn't somehow make working-class White turnout irrelevant. The Dems. Need. Some. Of. Both.

What part of that do you not understand?