Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City has sold more than any album in one week this year.

[Danie84]

Kendrick

for my Coli bet

 

[GoldenGlove]

no disrespect to Kendrick or any of his fans, but he is a product of a hype machine. seriously...he was on mag covers billed as "Rap's Next Big Star". 242k is respectable no doubt but Graduation sold almost a mil and Curtis sold almost 700k in the same week. If this is all hip hop's next big star is capable of then....

This further substantiates that Hip Hop is on life support. Its not just Hip Hop, it happens in sports too. Stars are rarely born anymore, rather manufactured. Not a Kendrick hater, his album is ok...just giving my perspective.

Just "ok"?

 

[surv2syn]

Just "ok"?

well, lemme say it like this....I dont like a lot of stuff that comes out today. Kendrick has a good album from what I have listened to. Its "good". By no means is it a classic to me, but I like the break from the monotony and I like creativity. Now I may end up liking it more once I cop it.

You guys say DAN is trash. I dont agree. Kendrick's album is better but that doesnt mean it will single handedly save hip hop. We need a collective effort. We need more Kendricks. Ironically, the s**t thats killing hip hop is groups like Slaughterhouse....who individually they kill it and their first album was great....but with their latest effort....I think it will hurt their longevity because it keeps fan bases flip flopping.

Hip Hop needs consistency. Kendrick will be the first major release I have supported in some time. Thats saying a lot.

 

[Youngdev]

Decent album aint no where near section 80, I even like overly dedicated better but kendrick is dope, 242 is a good look, props to kendrick tho

 

[hex]

I agree, most "stars" today are manufactured. But that's the whole gimmick. In an era of hip-hop when the hot phrase being thrown around is "rap is dead", publications and writers capitalize on that by hailing above-decent rappers as "intellectual saviors" and whatnot. That's also a gimmick being run by rappers themselves, more and more artists are coming out with songs with ad-libs yelling out "real hip-hop" like its some sort of certified stamp that makes their music legit. Take a look at how many MC's that have come out these past 6 years who were supposed to "rescue hip-hop". Lupgawd, the whole backpack movement (Kid Cudi, Tech N9ne, Asher Roth, Blu, Fashawn and more), Wale, Drake, J. Cole, Kendrick, Big KRIT, etc, etc....

Just remember that everything is for the sake of money and sales, you'll be hard pressed to find any real motivation to push forward hip-hop in our culture these days

Tech N9ne is "back pack rap"? And then you listed him with a bunch of new people despite the fact he's been around since the early 90s.

Uh....the fukk?

That undermines the credibility of your entire post.

Fred.

 

[boskey]

I'd like to see those industry numbers for just hip hop only between 2005 and today. I remember artists flopping pretty damn hard in 2006 and 2007. I don't think the decline has been that sharp...and there may be an increase if we take the average of everything that comes out.

Remember all those CD's that Def Jam was just pushing of the cliff with no promo. Lloyd Banks second album. The Roc when Jay was President. Snap music and all that bullsh!t.

Hip Hop has a few more stars now than in the ringtone rap phase

 

[45123]

Tech N9ne is "back pack rap"? And then you listed him with a bunch of new people despite the fact he's been around since the early 90s.

Uh....the fukk?

That undermines the credibility of your entire post.

Fred.

Uhh, who else besides backpack fans listen to Tech N9ne? I attribute him to the backpack movement regardless of when he came out, Kanye & Pharrell are backpackers too

 

[Trey0'5Blue2Gz]

nikkas always find something wrong with an artist they dislike.
Homie dropped a dope album with some serious heat on it, homie is doing what he was use to dream about it and genuinely comes off as humble for the opportunity to be able to show case his talent.i fukks with good kid m.A.A.d city but I wouldn't call it a classic either ya nikkas need to learn how to give props or just ignore the threads. Stop being bitter that it ain't your favorite rapper's turn.

 

[labelplant]

Was Bishop Lamont on a mag cover with Dre being hailed as raps next big star? Even if Dre doesnt have a beat on there, perception is reality....this is Forbes $110 million dollar man for the year introducing you to a hip hop artist. That has to help. Who was he when Section 80 was out. Obviously there is something different between Kendrick and Lamont...I am not trying to downplay that. Kendrick has a good album. How is that hate?

I still think you guys are missing my point. Somehow you feel selling this amount means that Hip Hop is in a better state than when more units were being moved. I dont agree. If you want to blame it on piracy, then do that. I am only speaking of reality. like you said, I am out of touch and just trying to get an understanding. Not being sarcastic...I really have been away for a while. I used to work in a record store for years and artists that were little more than regional stars were shipping 200k.

Different time, yeah I know. My point is, this is some brainwashing s**t to think less is better. Thats like you get SS taken out of your check and 10 years later you know the dollar isnt worth as much....but yet less dollar value is better because time has moved forward. Thats not reality.

To say 240k is great by todays standards is cool but to say its better than selling a larger number is flawed logic. If he moved 400k in a week imagine how yall would act. Its like yall intentionally lowballing predictions then when a dude scans an extra 20-40k, you act as if he has moved mountains.

Based on the 240k...(assuming that number is accurate because his double disc sales MAY be counted as 2 units....not sure because the musical content was less than 100 min)

is Kendrick raps next big star?

is he recouping more now off that physical number than he would have off of twice that amount 5 years ago?

Because artists are smarter and into their own branding, business wise, they can do better than someone who moved 700k 10 years ago. The number of artist on majors who are doing that is paltry. That doesnt put the state of Hip Hop in a better place. Actually, I am rooting for dude...I want him to sell more and I plan on supporting him today/tomorrow when I hit the store.

I took exception in this thread when yall said 240k>>>>>>>441k. If thats what you are selling...I aint buyin.

If gas goes below $3 per gal, thats damn good... for 2012, but dont sit here and tell me s**t is better now than when it was $0.99 per gal.

That's all gibberish, the only good point you had is whether it was counted as a double album. To my knowledge it wasn't but if so....

 

[Loose]

Ehhhh a lot of those is hipster sales,id appreciate it more if I felt like he had the streets buzzin for real....this is the equivelant to J Cole doin good...suprising but

hipster and college touring sales he winning though

 

[5n0man]

Was Bishop Lamont on a mag cover with Dre being hailed as raps next big star? Even if Dre doesnt have a beat on there, perception is reality....this is Forbes $110 million dollar man for the year introducing you to a hip hop artist. That has to help. Who was he when Section 80 was out. Obviously there is something different between Kendrick and Lamont...I am not trying to downplay that. Kendrick has a good album. How is that hate?

I still think you guys are missing my point. Somehow you feel selling this amount means that Hip Hop is in a better state than when more units were being moved. I dont agree. If you want to blame it on piracy, then do that. I am only speaking of reality. like you said, I am out of touch and just trying to get an understanding. Not being sarcastic...I really have been away for a while. I used to work in a record store for years and artists that were little more than regional stars were shipping 200k.

Different time, yeah I know. My point is, this is some brainwashing s**t to think less is better. Thats like you get SS taken out of your check and 10 years later you know the dollar isnt worth as much....but yet less dollar value is better because time has moved forward. Thats not reality.

To say 240k is great by todays standards is cool but to say its better than selling a larger number is flawed logic. If he moved 400k in a week imagine how yall would act. Its like yall intentionally lowballing predictions then when a dude scans an extra 20-40k, you act as if he has moved mountains.

Based on the 240k...(assuming that number is accurate because his double disc sales MAY be counted as 2 units....not sure because the musical content was less than 100 min)

is Kendrick raps next big star?

is he recouping more now off that physical number than he would have off of twice that amount 5 years ago?

Because artists are smarter and into their own branding, business wise, they can do better than someone who moved 700k 10 years ago. The number of artist on majors who are doing that is paltry. That doesnt put the state of Hip Hop in a better place. Actually, I am rooting for dude...I want him to sell more and I plan on supporting him today/tomorrow when I hit the store.

I took exception in this thread when yall said 240k>>>>>>>441k. If thats what you are selling...I aint buyin.

If gas goes below $3 per gal, thats damn good... for 2012, but dont sit here and tell me s**t is better now than when it was $0.99 per gal.

Breh shut up already,you twisting everyone's words to make your stupid ass point and you seem outta touch.

What your trying to say basically is having 200,000$ during the Great Depression is better than having 100,000$ now

When gas was .99$ minimum wage was 3$.
You ignore and downplay illegal downloads as a reason why sales are low, then you act like 240k isn't huge numbers TODAY, it's the highest hip hop sales to date this year.

Section 80 made his name ring, people started checking for him, he made good music and established a core fan base, proved that he was a talented artist, THEN and only THEN, did dre and inter scope get on board with dude, as their suppose to seeing that he's their artist. You act like dre boosted this nikka up from a nobody to a gold selling artist, like he wasn't grinding outthere for that shine. Kendrick built Kendrick's hype, not dre.

I'm tired of you nikkas acting like dude laid back and let dre do the work, with these sideways ass compliments followed by backhanded insults

" yeah I'm rooting for him, but he's nothing special"

 

[5n0man]

I agree, most "stars" today are manufactured. But that's the whole gimmick. In an era of hip-hop when the hot phrase being thrown around is "rap is dead", publications and writers capitalize on that by hailing above-decent rappers as "intellectual saviors" and whatnot. That's also a gimmick being run by rappers themselves, more and more artists are coming out with songs with ad-libs yelling out "real hip-hop" like its some sort of certified stamp that makes their music legit. Take a look at how many MC's that have come out these past 6 years who were supposed to "rescue hip-hop". Lupgawd, the whole backpack movement (Kid Cudi, Tech N9ne, Asher Roth, Blu, Fashawn and more), Wale, Drake, J. Cole, Kendrick, Big KRIT, etc, etc....

Just remember that everything is for the sake of money and sales, you'll be hard pressed to find any real motivation to push forward hip-hop in our culture these days

nikka if tech n9ne is a back packer then so is broths lynch hung and icp

Plus you name him with a bunch of new nikkas, you do realize tech had been around since the early 90s and is 40+ years old right? This nikkas said tech came out in the past six years, you know nothing about hiphop

 

[45123]

nikka if tech n9ne is a back packer then so is broths lynch hung and icp

Plus you name him with a bunch of new nikkas, you do realize tech had been around since the early 90s and is 40+ years old right? This nikkas said tech came out in the past six years, you know nothing about hiphop

Uhh, who else besides backpack fans listen to Tech N9ne? I attribute him to the backpack movement regardless of when he came out, Kanye & Pharrell are backpackers too

 

[hex]

Uhh, who else besides backpack fans listen to Tech N9ne? I attribute him to the backpack movement regardless of when he came out, Kanye & Pharrell are backpackers too

Breh, what the fukk are you talking about? Tech N9ne was a gangster rapper for most of his career. I'm actually from KC, dude has been repping Blood since the early 90s.

He was in the Regime with Yukmouth back around '96. The sole reason uneducated people such as yourself consider him a "backpack rapper" is because of "The Anthem". Meanwhile he was on the "Gang Related" soundtrack with Pac, Cube, Daz, etc. 2-3 years before that.

Fred.

 

[5n0man]

Uhh, who else besides backpack fans listen to Tech N9ne? I attribute him to the backpack movement regardless of when he came out, Kanye & Pharrell are backpackers too

Every person I know that listen to tech n9ne listens to rock music insane clown posse and eminem.

No breh, back packers don't listen to tech n9ne