Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City has sold more than any album in one week this year.

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The REAL Death Of The Music Industry - Business Insider

Music Industry Sees Digital Sales Slowing Along With CDs - Peter Kafka - Media - AllThingsD

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The music industry is down 64% from it's peak. That's including digital sales too. And it's been dropping every year since '02. If you can't see how selling 200k today is similar to selling 400k a few years ago, then you're retarded.

You come into a thread, making no fukking sense at all, and have the audacity to claim anyone that disagrees with you is a stan. Stop talking.

Fred.

Add to that the fact that a lot Kendrick's fanbase is "internet savvy". This isn't country music. So his sales are even more impressive
 

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of COURSE nikkas are come in here and down play it...\

Anyway...:salute: to K. Dot for having the highest selling rap album of the year...

U see this is what happens when you have the fanbase...the talent..and good music to back it up...

K. Dot didn't need no "press conference" :youngsabo:

He didn't need to go on twitter all day and night and call his album a "classic" before it came out :youngsabo:

He didn't need no Eeyore looking nikka to write him a essay on his liner notes about how he is bigger then life..:youngsabo:

K. Dot did that on his own...:bryan:
 

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Album is actually pretty good and im in no way a Kendrick fan. Cant be mad at them sales at all
 

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The REAL Death Of The Music Industry - Business Insider

Music Industry Sees Digital Sales Slowing Along With CDs - Peter Kafka - Media - AllThingsD

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The music industry is down 64% from it's peak. That's including digital sales too. And it's been dropping every year since '02. If you can't see how selling 200k today is similar to selling 400k a few years ago, then you're retarded.

You come into a thread, making no fukking sense at all, and have the audacity to claim anyone that disagrees with you is a stan. Stop talking.

Fred.
He brought out the charts and graphs. Never thought I would see someone pull out graphs in a hip hop debate:gladbron::gladbron:
 

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The REAL Death Of The Music Industry - Business Insider

Music Industry Sees Digital Sales Slowing Along With CDs - Peter Kafka - Media - AllThingsD

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The music industry is down 64% from it's peak. That's including digital sales too. And it's been dropping every year since '02. If you can't see how selling 200k today is similar to selling 400k a few years ago, then you're retarded.

You come into a thread, making no fukking sense at all, and have the audacity to claim anyone that disagrees with you is a stan. Stop talking.

Fred.

If only u would apply this same logic when u be trollin in them Ross threads. Its amazing how some of u only make sense when discussing an artist u like :upsetfavre:
 

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If only u would apply this same logic when u be trollin in them Ross threads. Its amazing how some of u only make sense when discussing an artist u like :upsetfavre:

:heh: I've had this EXACT argument with him before on the old site before with him arguing the complete opposite stance and I posted some of the exact same graphs and figures...it's truly some :mindblown: shyt to see
 

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If only u would apply this same logic when u be trollin in them Ross threads. Its amazing how some of u only make sense when discussing an artist u like :upsetfavre:

:wtf:

KL dropped an album that had a bigger week than any Rick Ross album and it was 6 years after Ross's debut, in a much worse market, and with less marketable content.

Fred.
 

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:heh: I've had this EXACT argument with him before on the old site before with him arguing the complete opposite stance and I posted some the same same graphs and figures...it's truly some :mindblown: shyt to see
Hexagram is a great poster expect when it comes to Rick Ross.
It's like he throws objectivity out the window :pachaha:
And I ain't even much of a Ross fan and even I notice that shyt lol.
 

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The REAL Death Of The Music Industry - Business Insider

Music Industry Sees Digital Sales Slowing Along With CDs - Peter Kafka - Media - AllThingsD

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The music industry is down 64% from it's peak. That's including digital sales too. And it's been dropping every year since '02. If you can't see how selling 200k today is similar to selling 400k a few years ago, then you're retarded.

You come into a thread, making no fukking sense at all, and have the audacity to claim anyone that disagrees with you is a stan. Stop talking.

Fred.
While I agree when it comes to total sales, Idk if I would compare first week sales today to first week sales from back in the day. Why? cause it's different business models of how they do it today. The flow of information and promotion is a lot cheaper and easier today. Like Wayne moving a million copies today, is probably not like if he would move 2 million a few years ago.

The only people in the 90s that moved gold first week were Jay, Pac, Big, BTNH, Dr. Dre, Snoop and Dmx if I recall right. Probably someone else.
But I remember that they used to talk about "first month" sales and shyt.
 

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The nikka created his own hype, saying dre was the reason he sold so much is like saying jay z was the reason j cole sold a lot, these nikkas was on their grind for a few years, they did it them selves. What happen to bishop Lamont and all the other nikkas with the dre co sign? Dre had nothing to do with od, or section 80, he doesn't even have a single beat on this album

And nobody is saying 400k<<200k, we are simply stating that selling. 200k is the equivalent of selling 400k 5 years ago.


Graduation was Kanyes 3rd album, and the whole first week sales war between him and 50 was manufactured by Def Jam and Interscope to sell more records...and that was 2007.

why do you think the state of hip hop album sales 5 years ago applies today?

College Dropout sold 441k in 2004

242k in 2012>>>>>>>>>>>>>>441k in 03.

Was Bishop Lamont on a mag cover with Dre being hailed as raps next big star? Even if Dre doesnt have a beat on there, perception is reality....this is Forbes $110 million dollar man for the year introducing you to a hip hop artist. That has to help. Who was he when Section 80 was out. Obviously there is something different between Kendrick and Lamont...I am not trying to downplay that. Kendrick has a good album. How is that hate?

I still think you guys are missing my point. Somehow you feel selling this amount means that Hip Hop is in a better state than when more units were being moved. I dont agree. If you want to blame it on piracy, then do that. I am only speaking of reality. like you said, I am out of touch and just trying to get an understanding. Not being sarcastic...I really have been away for a while. I used to work in a record store for years and artists that were little more than regional stars were shipping 200k.

Different time, yeah I know. My point is, this is some brainwashing s**t to think less is better. Thats like you get SS taken out of your check and 10 years later you know the dollar isnt worth as much....but yet less dollar value is better because time has moved forward. Thats not reality.

To say 240k is great by todays standards is cool but to say its better than selling a larger number is flawed logic. If he moved 400k in a week imagine how yall would act. Its like yall intentionally lowballing predictions then when a dude scans an extra 20-40k, you act as if he has moved mountains.

Based on the 240k...(assuming that number is accurate because his double disc sales MAY be counted as 2 units....not sure because the musical content was less than 100 min)

is Kendrick raps next big star?

is he recouping more now off that physical number than he would have off of twice that amount 5 years ago?

Because artists are smarter and into their own branding, business wise, they can do better than someone who moved 700k 10 years ago. The number of artist on majors who are doing that is paltry. That doesnt put the state of Hip Hop in a better place. Actually, I am rooting for dude...I want him to sell more and I plan on supporting him today/tomorrow when I hit the store.

I took exception in this thread when yall said 240k>>>>>>>441k. If thats what you are selling...I aint buyin.

If gas goes below $3 per gal, thats damn good... for 2012, but dont sit here and tell me s**t is better now than when it was $0.99 per gal.
 

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no disrespect to Kendrick or any of his fans, but he is a product of a hype machine. seriously...he was on mag covers billed as "Rap's Next Big Star". 242k is respectable no doubt but Graduation sold almost a mil and Curtis sold almost 700k in the same week. If this is all hip hop's next big star is capable of then....:manny:

This further substantiates that Hip Hop is on life support. Its not just Hip Hop, it happens in sports too. Stars are rarely born anymore, rather manufactured. Not a Kendrick hater, his album is ok...just giving my perspective. :yeshrug:


I agree, most "stars" today are manufactured. But that's the whole gimmick. In an era of hip-hop when the hot phrase being thrown around is "rap is dead", publications and writers capitalize on that by hailing above-decent rappers as "intellectual saviors" and whatnot. That's also a gimmick being run by rappers themselves, more and more artists are coming out with songs with ad-libs yelling out "real hip-hop" like its some sort of certified stamp that makes their music legit. Take a look at how many MC's that have come out these past 6 years who were supposed to "rescue hip-hop". Lupgawd, the whole backpack movement (Kid Cudi, Tech N9ne, Asher Roth, Blu, Fashawn and more), Wale, Drake, J. Cole, Kendrick, Big KRIT, etc, etc....

Just remember that everything is for the sake of money and sales, you'll be hard pressed to find any real motivation to push forward hip-hop in our culture these days
 
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