Gilbert Arenas cites Grant Hill as reason Pippen and Jordan wouldn’t be as good defensively 2Day

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Didn’t Grant end up a first ballot HOF anyway?

yeah he was first ballot, but large part because of college but he was none the less. he had 3 great years in the league before his ankle went bye bye
 

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They werent the facilitator Grant was.

agreed, but grant didn't have a lot of things those guys had so it evened out.

grant wasn't the above the rim like doc, nor did he have bernards and dantleys mid post game. But hell scottie pippen is a better comparison because he did everything grant did except he wasn't the number 1 option
 

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this nikka acting like Grant dominated the league. He put up some good numbers but they werent crazy and his team wasnt winning.
 

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agreed, but grant didn't have a lot of things those guys had so it evened out.

grant wasn't the above the rim like doc, nor did he have bernards and dantleys mid post game. But hell scottie pippen is a better comparison because he did everything grant did except he wasn't the number 1 option
Scottie wasnt a ball to the floor creator like Grant or any of those guys either. Honestly, I love the SF position because it was the one position that is the mixed bag of everything scoring wise
 
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grant hill would've been without a doubt a first ballot HOF and one of the 20 best players ever had he not gotten hurt so I don't get why he cited grant hill for his hit piece.

great offense is always going to beat great defense no matter what.
Lol @ hit piece. He has a podcast, it’s just him and a host and occasionally a guest and he gives his prospective on all things hoops.
 

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first player of his kind? :mjlol: google julius ervin, bernard king, mark agguirre, adrian dantley, nique. there were PLENTY of cats that had similiar games skillsets as grant did decades before he came into the league.

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Miss the point brehs

Dr. J was not as advanced as Grant Hill as far as shiftiness and going left to right

Dr. J’s handle was nowhere near Grant’s and his lack of ball handling skill and breakdown moves were exposed in his 1991 1-on-1 game with KAJ

Most of those guys you listed were known for their midpost skills and had very traditional 80’s SF game
 

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Miss the point brehs

Dr. J was not as advanced as Grant Hill as far as shiftiness and going left to right

Dr. J’s handle was nowhere near Grant’s and his lack of ball handling skill and breakdown moves were exposed in his 1991 1-on-1 game with KAJ

Most of those guys you listed were known for their midpost skills and has very traditional 80’s SF game

go back and watch ABA doc, he was ferocious. In the NBA doc toned his game down because he played with a bunch of scorers like world b free, doug collins, chocolate thunder, etc.. and he was just trying to win.

you bring up a 1 on 1 game when doc was in his 40s drinking budweiser and fukkin javale mcgee's mom as some point to try and shyt on him. He at that point had been retired 4-5 years while cap was just retired 2 years prior.
 

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It works both ways. MJ n Pip would probably struggle more on defense, but they'd likely be a little more effective at scoring with the relaxed rules and open game.

Jordan AVERAGED 30 points/game for his whole damn career, and he played a good portion of his career in a slower, defensive era.

:mjlol: a little more effective on offense?







 
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