Ghanaian bodybuilder with minimal equipment puts us all to shame aesthetically

[Adam3000]

breh ive seen people turn to beast in two years and the fact that he confirms he has only been working out for 2.5 years proves my point.

Nah, it doesn't prove your point because you don't know if he is natural. His word is not good enough. The fact he is in Ghana is meaningless. Also, those people you say you have seen turn into beast in 2 years....how many of them were 194 lbs at 5'8" and 6% bodyfat? And can you guarantee me that they were not taking hormone affecting medications like steroids, pro-hormones, HGH, TRT, or peptides? Taking people at their word is meaningless. His weight and bodyfat percentage is equivalent to the top true-natural bodybuilders in the entire world. People who have been training for 10-20 years to reach their genetic maximum. People who have access to the top nutrition and training advice and coaching.

Dr. Layne Norton is one of the most respected natural lifters on the planet (assuming he is natural). He is 2 inches taller and his competition weight is around 194. So this Ghanian acquired thick, dense muscle in greater mass in 2.5 years than Layne Norton has in his entire life?

Former Mr. Olympia and steroid user Frank Zane had a competition weight of 185 lbs at 5'9"....he was probably at 3% BF for competition, so his weight at the BF% level of the Ghanian would be about 194 lbs. So the Ghanian has as much lean mass at 1 inch shorter than a man considered to have one of the greatest physiques of all time?

Top-respected muscle building mind Lyle McDonald has a well thought out, reasoned, and tested formula to determine maximum genetic potential:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html

If Mr. Ghana truly is 194 lbs and his BF% is around 6, he would be at near the peak of natural human potential. In 2 years.

You are truly under estimating the time of two years.

No, I am not. @Black Jesus has been at it for 2 years if I remember correctly and obviously has good genetics based on his progress pictures, ask him if he thinks he could have gotten to that level of muscle mass if he has just been eating a Ghana diet instead.

I personally have put on maybe 10 lbs of muscle mass in the last year, lots of them were noob gains since my training prior to last summer sucked. My nutrition is not spot on, but the difference between 10 lbs per year and 25 lbs per year (my quick esitmate for Mr. Ghana) is a gap that is not explainable

 

[The ADD]

Nah, it doesn't prove your point because you don't know if he is natural. His word is not good enough. The fact he is in Ghana is meaningless. Also, those people you say you have seen turn into beast in 2 years....how many of them were 194 lbs at 5'8" and 6% bodyfat? And can you guarantee me that they were not taking hormone affecting medications like steroids, pro-hormones, HGH, TRT, or peptides? Taking people at their word is meaningless. His weight and bodyfat percentage is equivalent to the top true-natural bodybuilders in the entire world. People who have been training for 10-20 years to reach their genetic maximum. People who have access to the top nutrition and training advice and coaching.

Dr. Layne Norton is one of the most respected natural lifters on the planet (assuming he is natural). He is 2 inches taller and his competition weight is around 194. So this Ghanian acquired thick, dense muscle in greater mass in 2.5 years than Layne Norton has in his entire life?

Former Mr. Olympia and steroid user Frank Zane had a competition weight of 185 lbs at 5'9"....he was probably at 3% BF for competition, so his weight at the BF% level of the Ghanian would be about 194 lbs. So the Ghanian has as much lean mass at 1 inch shorter than a man considered to have one of the greatest physiques of all time?

Top-respected muscle building mind Lyle McDonald has a well thought out, reasoned, and tested formula to determine maximum genetic potential:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html

If Mr. Ghana truly is 194 lbs and his BF% is around 6, he would be at near the peak of natural human potential. In 2 years.



No, I am not. @Black Jesus has been at it for 2 years if I remember correctly and obviously has good genetics based on his progress pictures, ask him if he thinks he could have gotten to that level of muscle mass if he has just been eating a Ghana diet instead.

I personally have put on maybe 10 lbs of muscle mass in the last year, lots of them were noob gains since my training prior to last summer sucked. My nutrition is not spot on, but the difference between 10 lbs per year and 25 lbs per year (my quick esitmate for Mr. Ghana) per year is a gap that is not explainable

Oh it could be explained

 

[Jesus]

I've made tremendous gains working out solo for 3 years with a shyt diet, but still....

nikka could be natural, but I doubt it given his resources and situation.

 

[bouncy]

@Adam3000 I'm not knocking what you're saying but, just because someone has access to people who claim to be the best in nutrition, doesn't mean they are correct in their knowledge. When I read all these bodybuilding magazines, I noticed they tend to over think nutrition. If you want health, yeah, you should go in depth, but for growing muscles it's not that hard. Eat complex carbohydrates in a high amount in the day, not much fat in the form of oil(nuts and seeds is different), and before you go to sleep make sure you have some type of slow digesting protein in your system because when you sleep, your body goes into repair mode.

Most people are so worried about how much protein they eat, that they forget carbohydrates are the best source of energy for the body when it is active during the day. Protein is used to repair and build your body, so it's best to take it at night when there is less chance of you shytting it out.

If you are serious about learning, look up sympathetic nervous system, and parasympathetic nervous system. These will dictate how much weight you build or lose, as well as your health. Put simple, the sympathetic nervous system is more active during the day which is why carbohydrates are burned more during this time because the body needs a quick source of energy because you are making quick movements. At night, and way more when you are sleep, your body goes into parasympathetic mode, and this is when you are repairing or building the body up. The body wants monounsaturated fats, and protein, during this time since it needs a constant source of slow, dense energy because you will be nonactive for at least 4-8 hours, and it will be building up the immune system which is what the monounsaturated fat is for since it gets absorbed into the lymphatic system which is where most of your immune system is located.

 

[Adam3000]

@Adam3000 I'm not knocking what you're saying but, just because someone has access to people who claim to be the best in nutrition, doesn't mean they are correct in their knowledge. When I read all these bodybuilding magazines, I noticed they tend to over think nutrition. If you want health, yeah, you should go in depth, but for growing muscles it's not that hard. Eat complex carbohydrates in a high amount in the day, not much fat in the form of oil(nuts and seeds is different), and before you go to sleep make sure you have some type of slow digesting protein in your system because when you sleep, your body goes into repair mode.

Most people are so worried about how much protein they eat, that they forget carbohydrates are the best source of energy for the body when it is active during the day. Protein is used to repair and build your body, so it's best to take it at night when there is less chance of you shytting it out.

I know that breh, and so do the top natural bodybuilders in the world. Anyone worth their weight in salt is likely eating at least 50% of their daily calories from complex carbs during muscle-building periods

But eating and eating and eating will only get your so far. The human body has its own system for nutrient partitioning, and there is a limit to how much of that can be for muscle building. Your body likes to store fat, it does not like to build muscle. Muscle is built out of necessity due to the stress of weight training. It is an energy intensive process, we did not evolve to be muscle freaks. We evolved to be fat fukks, because storing fat is easy and during periods of famine, fat stores are a plentiful and quick source of energy for our famished bodies. Thus, in the presence of too much energy, most of it is going to fat. No matter how "clean" you eat.

One more thing about the diet issue....I guarantee that if you do your research on the powerlifting community, people who only care about putting on muscle and don't give a shyt about fat, you will find that most of them eat a piss-poor diet. Probably worse than anyone posting in this thread. But underneath those thick layers of fat is also and incredibly thick and dense layer of muscle. And they build that muscle with diets full of plenty of donuts and pizza. shyt food does not prevent muscle gain. In fact, insulin spikes from shytty carbs PROMOTE muscle gain by shuttling nutrients into broken town muscle tissue. Many professional bodybuilders inject insulin. And yet these powerlifters with these brick wall slabs of muscle still play by the same genetic rules as we all do. If they dieted down, they would not be bigger than a good bodybuilder.

The point I'm making is that as long as energy intake is high enough, muscle will be built. But no matter how good or bad your diet is, we all play by similar rules. Mr. Ghana doesn't seem to be....

 

[bouncy]

I know that breh, and so do the top natural bodybuilders in the world. Anyone worth their weight in salt is likely eating at least 50% of their daily calories from complex carbs during muscle-building periods

But eating and eating and eating will only get your so far. The human body has its own system for nutrient partitioning, and there is a limit to how much of that can be for muscle building. Your body likes to store fat, it does not like to build muscle. Muscle is built out of necessity due to the stress of weight training. It is an energy intensive process, we did not evolve to be muscle freaks. We evolved to be fat fukks, because storing fat is easy and during periods of famine, fat stores are a plentiful and quick source of energy for our famished bodies

One more thing about the diet issue....I guarantee that if you do your research on the powerlifting community, people who only care about putting on muscle and don't give a shyt about fat, you will find that most of them eat a piss-poor diet. Probably worse than anyone posting in this thread. But underneath those thick layers of fat is also and incredibly thick and dense layer of muscle. And they build that muscle with diets full of plenty of donuts and pizza. shyt food does not prevent muscle gain. In fact, insulin spikes from shytty carbs PROMOTE muscle gain. Many professional bodybuilders inject insulin. And yet these powerlifters with these brick wall slabs of muscle still play by the same genetic rules as we all do. If they dieted down, they would not be bigger than a good bodybuilder.

The point I'm making is that as long as energy intake is high enough, muscle will be built. But no matter how good or bad your diet is, we all play by similar rules. Mr. Ghana doesn't seem to be....

That is not true. Yeah, you can eat donuts and get carbs but within an hour your blood sugar will drop, and not you are in a deficit, which increases the chances of the new food you eat to go to fat cells if you eat too much of the simple carbs. While someone who eats the same amount of a complex carbohydrate will keep a constant supply going, and has less chance of the carbohydrates going to fat cells. As long as they keep working their muscles to the fullest or in other words do hard manual labor work, they will grow dense muscles, and very little fat. Also, most people don't just eat carbohydrates in the day, they eat a good amount of protein with it, so that changes things a lot.

Let me ask you, what do you consider complex carbohydrates, and give me examples that you or people you know eat, as far as complex carbohydrates?

 

[Adam3000]

That is not true. Yeah, you can eat donuts and get carbs but within an hour your blood sugar will drop, and not you are in a deficit, which increases the chances of the new food you eat to go to fat cells if you eat too much of the simple carbs. While someone who eats the same amount of a complex carbohydrate will keep a constant supply going, and has less chance of the carbohydrates going to fat cells. As long as they keep working their muscles to the fullest or in other words do hard manual labor work, they will grow dense muscles, and very little fat. Also, most people don't just eat carbohydrates in the day, they eat a good amount of protein with it, so that changes things a lot.

Let me ask you, what do you consider complex carbohydrates, and give me examples that you or people you know eat, as far as complex carbohydrates?

I'm not even sure what you are trying to argue here. Are you implying that Ghanian follows a diet that is superior to that of the top competing natural-bodybuilders and nutritionists in the world? I never said that eating shyt carbs was optimal for peak gains, I simply said that muscle will be built either way (which is 100% true, don't try and bro science me with that blood sugar shyt). The point of that little rant was that comparing Ghana to a random Gym member's diet does not explain a 10-15 lbs of lean muscle per year difference.

A true comparison of his diet would be vs. that of a competing professional natural lifter. Someone following a diet built on decades of science and personal trial and error. To imply that Ghanian has discovered the secret of muscle building without fat gain is laughable.

Anybody that tells you that you can put on muscle without fat is lying to you or selling you something or both. Period. If you want to argue that, please post a transformation video of yourself gaining 25 lbs of pure muscle mass in the next year eating a diet of sweet potatoes and steel cut oats. Oh, and also become a professional trainer/dietician/magazine editor. Anyone will hire you, after all you have discovered a secret that has evaded the natural bodybuilding community for its entire existence.

The truth is that if you gain muscle and fat in a 1:1 ratio, you are doing amazingly well. Some of that muscle will then be lost during your cut, so after an additional period of zero muscle gain your ratio will naturally be even lower.

Excess energy (calories) is excess energy. If you eat more than you can use to synthesize protein and refill muscle glycogen during the course of a day, it will go to fat whether it came from a donut or a sweet potato. The physiological response will make body composition changes differ slightly between the two (muscle vs. fat gain), but the end result (excess energy at the end once muscle protein is synthesized as much as your body will allow) will have the same result (fat storage)

 

[Apollo Creed]

lol @ clean food
lol @ layne norton being natty
lol @ lol

 

[Adam3000]

Man....after all this ranting, I need to re-emphasize that I have not committed to a stance on whether he is natural or not. I need solid numbers first (LBM previous to his training and current LBM).

I'm just basing all my ranting on the assumption that his LBM is higher than that of an experienced true-natural competing lifter.

In reality, his LBM could be 175-180 which is potentially achievable if he was elite

lol @ clean food
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I'm only using the term out of convenience. I agree with your lol

 

[bouncy]

I'm not even sure what you are trying to argue here. Are you implying that Ghanian follows a diet that is superior to that of the top competing natural-bodybuilders and nutritionists in the world? I never said that eating shyt carbs was optimal for peak gains, I simply said that muscle will be built either way (which is 100% true, don't try and bro science me with that blood sugar shyt). The point of that little rant was that comparing Ghana to a random Gym member's diet does not explain a 10-15 lbs of lean muscle per year difference.

A true comparison of his diet would be vs. that of a competing professional natural lifter. Someone following a diet built on decades of science and personal trial and error. To imply that Ghanian has discovered the secret of muscle building without fat gain is laughable.

Anybody that tells you that you can put on muscle without fat is lying to you or selling you something or both. Period. If you want to argue that, please post a transformation video of yourself gaining 25 lbs of pure muscle mass in the next year eating a diet of sweet potatoes and steel cut oats. Oh, and also become a professional trainer/dietician/magazine editor. Anyone will hire you, after all you have discovered a secret that has evaded the natural bodybuilding community for its entire existence.

The truth is that if you gain muscle and fat in a 1:1 ratio, you are doing amazingly well. Some of that muscle will then be lost during your cut, so after an additional period of zero muscle gain your ratio will naturally be even lower.

Excess energy (calories) is excess energy. If you eat more than you can use to synthesize protein and refill muscle glycogen during the course of a day, it will go to fat whether it came from a donut or a sweet potato. The physiological response will make body composition changes differ slightly between the two (muscle vs. fat gain), but the end result (excess energy at the end once muscle protein is synthesized as much as your body will allow) will have the same result (fat storage)

You are arguing just to argue because what did I write in my op? "Plus, he's in a hot land so the excess food that the muscles don't use would be burned off to keep the body cool, and that keeps his body fat low."

That is very important to the whole equation! It is always a constant warm or hot temperature there so excess energy has less of a chance to turn to fat. This is why that ratio you mentioned is just a number that these bodybuilders love to throw out. How can you claim that ratio is for everyone, when some will burn more then others?.

You are assuming that these paid scientists are making proper assumptions. Just because they see something happening, doesn't mean they can correlate it into real world settings. Maybe those job titles get you going but, I want to see the proof, and a lot of them don't deliver. This is why all these bodybuilders give 100 different answers to a simple question. How do I eat to gain muscle? They all agree on the exercises for the most part, but when it comes to diet, it's great adventures in this motherfukker. So many answers to choose from.

I see you mentioned cutting, so this tells me you are deep into the bodybuilding world which is why you can't wrap your head around this guy being natural. He may not cut. That is something done with bodybuilders who train for metals and trophies.

Again, please answer the question I gave you because it would help me understand how you eat and what you consider a daily diet of complex carbohydrates.

 

[Houston911]

I believe he's natural. The food he eats take so long to breakdown, that his body always has a source of energy so he will keep growing. Most people in the west don't eat food like that, so it would take longer for them to grow. Plus, he's in a hot land so the excess food that the muscles don't use would be burned off to keep the body cool, and that keeps his body fat low.

Why you think black men back in the day used to look so brolic compared to others in the south? They used to eat thick ass grits, pork chops, or fried fish for their breakfast. Plus they did manual labor and it was hot so they had a more muscular look then men do today but, even in some southern parts where they still eat that soul food, you can see the men are much more muscular naturally then men in the north or west coast.

you think fried fish and grits is a diet to get brolic?

 

[bouncy]

you think fried fish and grits is a diet to get brolic?

Why wouldn't it be if you eat it for breakfast, and you are being active all day?

 

[Adam3000]

You are arguing just to argue because what did I write in my op? "Plus, he's in a hot land so the excess food that the muscles don't use would be burned off to keep the body cool, and that keeps his body fat low."

That is very important to the whole equation! It is always a constant warm or hot temperature there so excess energy has less of a chance to turn to fat. This is why that ratio you mentioned is just a number that these bodybuilders love to throw out. How can you claim that ratio is for everyone, when some will burn more then others?.

Well there it is. You have added to your secret formula. If these pro natural bodybuilders would just sit in a sauna all day, they wouldn't gain all that fat. You have solved the pesky conundrum of thermodynamics and how they relate to the energy equation and body composition. You are missing out on a get-rich-quick opportunity by not performing clinical trials and getting published.

You have beaten decades of anecdotal observation and real world experimentation and testing for the limits of genetic muscular potential and also the "build muscle, not fat" problem

Again, please answer the question I gave you because it would help me understand how you eat and what you consider a daily diet of complex carbohydrates.

Your question about complex carbohydrates? Why do I need to answer that. If I didn't know the answer I could just Google it. If I did know the answer I could be accused of Googling it. You are trying to get me to humor you so you can catch me with an aha moment. But there would be no purpose in that. So why don't you just say "this is what complex carbohydrates are" so I can say to myself "no shyt" and then you can try and make another point that is not supported by scientifically replicable human physiology experiments

 

[Adam3000]

@lotty

I'm being a dikk. Here's some rep. Lets all go eat and lift.

Believe it or not, all this arguing has actually motivated me to fix my diet a bit. Been getting a little loose on the sugar lately (still keeping everything under control...but need to keep it in check before it gets out of hand)

 

[bouncy]

Well there it is. You have added to your secret formula. If these pro natural bodybuilders would just sit in a sauna all day, they wouldn't gain all that fat. You have solved the pesky conundrum of thermodynamics and how they relate to the energy equation and body composition. You are missing out on a get-rich-quick opportunity by not performing clinical trials and getting published.

You have beaten decades of anecdotal observation and real world experimentation and testing for the limits of genetic muscular potential and also the "build muscle, not fat" problem



Your question about complex carbohydrates? Why do I need to answer that. If I didn't know the answer I could just Google it. If I did know the answer I could be accused of Googling it. You are trying to get me to humor you so you can catch me with an aha moment. But there would be no purpose in that. So why don't you just say "this is what complex carbohydrates are" so I can say to myself "no shyt" and then you can try and make another point that is not supported by scientifically replicable human physiology experiments

There have been no studies done on someone eating like him, getting constant sunlight, and doing resistance training. If there has been, show me.

You laugh but a sauna will help but it has to be an infrared sauna not just a sauna with hot rocks because the infrared light goes into the skin, while the hot rocks just heat up your body. This brings me to another point, he is getting constant sunlight, and working out in the sun. This helps release testosterone, and has been proven. Add to the fact that hes dark, he will hold onto that light energy, and burn fat easily since his metabolism will be higher as melanin absorbs infrared light as well.

I was going to help you but, you think I want to fight with you. Fine, go to your scientists to help you. They do help but, that is why you have a brain to see where they are wrong at, you don't take everything they say as the last word.