GGG-Canelo Master Discussion Thread

[malbaker86]

Man i cant wait for this

They're gonna deliver fireworks, they HAVE to.

It better not be a ho hum Cotto v Canelo type shyt either

 

[GzUp]

Man i cant wait for this

They're gonna deliver fireworks, they HAVE to.

It better not be a ho hum Cotto v Canelo type shyt either

I believe it will, both come forward Fighters. Similar in weight, both still in prime.

 

[THE MACHINE]

C'mon Canelo

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Man i cant wait for this

They're gonna deliver fireworks, they HAVE to.

It better not be a ho hum Cotto v Canelo type shyt either

I expect some good action, but think we get less "Mexican style" than most think. Canelo and GGG have shown in their big fights to not become brawlers and try to execute actual boxing gameplans.

GGG will come forward and use his jab, but I don't expect him to be reckless at all. He will respect Canelo's counter ability. Canelo will use his speed to move around and counter and try and lure GGG in counter opportunity traps.

I think those expecting a toe to toe war, and I won't be surprised if the media hypes that storyline and if GGG and Canelo use it in their publicity, will be disappointed. Expect tactical quality action.

 

[Newzz]

De La Hoya: Weight for Canelo-GGG is 160; No Rehydration Clause
By Keith Idec

Canelo Alvarez isn’t playing any weight games regarding weight gains in his showdown with Gennady Golovkin.

Oscar De La Hoya confirmed during an interview Tuesday on ESPN’s “First Take” that the contracted weight limit for their long-awaited fight is the middleweight limit of 160 pounds. De La Hoya, Alvarez’s promoter, also said there aren’t any rehydration clauses in the contracts that would limit either fighter from gain a specific amount of pounds following an official weigh-in September 15.

“My man, let’s just say this is a real, true middleweight fight at 160 pounds,” De La Hoya told ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman. “Both guys will fight in 10-ounce gloves. You know, there’s no rehydration, weight-class clause and all this B.S. and this and that. It’s a true middleweight fight, at 160 pounds. And that’s it.”

Alvarez’s two previous middleweight title fights were contested at contracted catch weights of 155 pounds, five full pounds beneath the middleweight limit. He won those two bouts against Puerto Rico’s Miguel Cotto (40-5, 33 KOs), a 12-round unanimous-decision victory in November 2015, and Amir Khan (31-4, 19 KOs), a sixth-round knockout in May 2016.

The Mexican superstar and De La Hoya had mentioned at times last year that Golovkin would have to come down from the 160-pound limit and meet him at a catch weight. Alvarez later said he would challenge Golovkin at the middleweight limit and ultimately kept his word.

The 35-year-old Golovkin (37-0, 33 KOs) has been a middleweight throughout a professional career that began in May 2006. The least the Kazakhstan native has weighed for a professional fight is 158½ pounds for a first-round knockout of Lajuan Simon in December 2011.

The 26-year-old Alvarez (49-1-1, 34 KOs) has boxed above 155 pounds just once in his 11½-year pro career. That thorough win took place Saturday night, when he dominated countryman Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (50-3-1, 32 KOs, 1 NC) in a 12-round fight at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

The Alvarez-Chavez bout was contracted for a maximum catch weight of 164½ pounds. That was the lowest Chavez needed to weigh since he lost to Sergio Martinez in a WBC middleweight title fight in September 2012 at UNLV’s Thomas & Mack Center.

According to his trainer, Abel Sanchez, the 5-feet-10 Golovkin usually doesn’t add more than 10 pounds between the time he weighs in and the time his fights start.

Alvarez is believed to have entered the ring at more than 170 pounds for some of his junior middleweight and “middleweight” bouts. The WBO super welterweight champion wouldn’t allow HBO to weigh him on the network’s unofficial scale Saturday night and hasn’t divulged how much he weighed when he got in the ring to face Chavez.

- See more at: De La Hoya: Weight for Canelo-GGG is 160; No Rehydration Clause - Boxing News



So, they aren't fighting for the IBF title then



I guess only the WBA and Lineal Championship will be on the line

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

De La Hoya: Weight for Canelo-GGG is 160; No Rehydration Clause
By Keith Idec

Canelo Alvarez isn’t playing any weight games regarding weight gains in his showdown with Gennady Golovkin.

Oscar De La Hoya confirmed during an interview Tuesday on ESPN’s “First Take” that the contracted weight limit for their long-awaited fight is the middleweight limit of 160 pounds. De La Hoya, Alvarez’s promoter, also said there aren’t any rehydration clauses in the contracts that would limit either fighter from gain a specific amount of pounds following an official weigh-in September 15.

“My man, let’s just say this is a real, true middleweight fight at 160 pounds,” De La Hoya told ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman. “Both guys will fight in 10-ounce gloves. You know, there’s no rehydration, weight-class clause and all this B.S. and this and that. It’s a true middleweight fight, at 160 pounds. And that’s it.”

Alvarez’s two previous middleweight title fights were contested at contracted catch weights of 155 pounds, five full pounds beneath the middleweight limit. He won those two bouts against Puerto Rico’s Miguel Cotto (40-5, 33 KOs), a 12-round unanimous-decision victory in November 2015, and Amir Khan (31-4, 19 KOs), a sixth-round knockout in May 2016.

The Mexican superstar and De La Hoya had mentioned at times last year that Golovkin would have to come down from the 160-pound limit and meet him at a catch weight. Alvarez later said he would challenge Golovkin at the middleweight limit and ultimately kept his word.

The 35-year-old Golovkin (37-0, 33 KOs) has been a middleweight throughout a professional career that began in May 2006. The least the Kazakhstan native has weighed for a professional fight is 158½ pounds for a first-round knockout of Lajuan Simon in December 2011.

The 26-year-old Alvarez (49-1-1, 34 KOs) has boxed above 155 pounds just once in his 11½-year pro career. That thorough win took place Saturday night, when he dominated countryman Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (50-3-1, 32 KOs, 1 NC) in a 12-round fight at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

The Alvarez-Chavez bout was contracted for a maximum catch weight of 164½ pounds. That was the lowest Chavez needed to weigh since he lost to Sergio Martinez in a WBC middleweight title fight in September 2012 at UNLV’s Thomas & Mack Center.

According to his trainer, Abel Sanchez, the 5-feet-10 Golovkin usually doesn’t add more than 10 pounds between the time he weighs in and the time his fights start.

Alvarez is believed to have entered the ring at more than 170 pounds for some of his junior middleweight and “middleweight” bouts. The WBO super welterweight champion wouldn’t allow HBO to weigh him on the network’s unofficial scale Saturday night and hasn’t divulged how much he weighed when he got in the ring to face Chavez.

- See more at: De La Hoya: Weight for Canelo-GGG is 160; No Rehydration Clause - Boxing News



So, they aren't fighting for the IBF title then



I guess only the WBA and Lineal Championship will be on the line

I wonder if he means that there is no contract imposed weight negotiations (ie, no catchweight or negotiated rehydration), but with GGG he may choose to follow the IBF 10 lb rehydration so he can defend that belt. Canelo doesn't seem to care about the belts, so I don't expect him to jump on a scale on Saturday, but I won't be surprised if GGG does so he can defend the IBF belt. GGG cares about his belts, Canelo doesnt.

 

[HamAndEgger]

Canelo's gonna have good moments in the fight but GGG down the stretch gonna give Canelo the beating of his life.

 

[nomoreneveragain]

Canelo is gonna out class him.

GGG got old fast, those fights where he would put his hands down for "Drama Show" prolly caught up to him

 

[GzUp]

I expect some good action, but think we get less "Mexican style" than most think. Canelo and GGG have shown in their big fights to not become brawlers and try to execute actual boxing gameplans.

GGG will come forward and use his jab, but I don't expect him to be reckless at all. He will respect Canelo's counter ability. Canelo will use his speed to move around and counter and try and lure GGG in counter opportunity traps.

I think those expecting a toe to toe war, and I won't be surprised if the media hypes that storyline and if GGG and Canelo use it in their publicity, will be disappointed. Expect tactical quality action.

This is exactly how I see it, I feel ggg is going to give a heavy dose of the jab.. ggg moves while he jabs, moves back, rolls his shoulder while he throws it.. Little things like that will give canelo trouble.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Canelo is gonna out class him.

GGG got old fast, those fights where he would put his hands down for "Drama Show" prolly caught up to him

little G did not get old. he's the same exact fighter he always was. have you guys ever truly WATCHED little g before he fought brook?.....dude has always had major flaws. many of us told you when he fought brook that his flaws would be exposed....and that's what happened. we told you jacobs would give him issues and that's what happened.......it's a whole different ball game fighting bums and fighting world class guys. he didn't look like his old self because he was actually fighting guys who moved around the ring and didn't stand right in front of him like retards. absolutely nothing was different about little g in his last two fights.

 

[Newzz]

little G did not get old. he's the same exact fighter he always was. have you guys ever truly WATCHED little g before he fought brook?.....dude has always had major flaws. many of us told you when he fought brook that his flaws would be exposed....and that's what happened. we told you jacobs would give him issues and that's what happened.......it's a whole different ball game fighting bums and fighting world class guys. he didn't look like his old self because he was actually fighting guys who moved around the ring and didn't stand right in front of him like retards. absolutely nothing was different about little g in his last two fights.

This is pretty much what Canelo is going to do

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

This is pretty much what Canelo is going to do

difference is canelo can stand in the pocket and not get hit. he's not just gonna go in head first like most of little g's opponents. bottomline, before brook little g fought nothing but guys that were tailor made for him. now that he's fighting guys with top tier talent, he's looking "human". it's no coincidence...it's not about age. he didn't lose a step. he is who we thought he was.

 

[GzUp]

difference is canelo can stand in the pocket and not get hit. he's not just gonna go in head first like most of little g's opponents. bottomline, before brook little g fought nothing but guys that were tailor made for him. now that he's fighting guys with top tier talent, he's looking "human". it's no coincidence...it's not about age. he didn't lose a step. he is who we thought he was.

U think ggg won't be able to hit canelo?

 

[Newzz]

difference is canelo can stand in the pocket and not get hit. he's not just gonna go in head first like most of little g's opponents. bottomline, before brook little g fought nothing but guys that were tailor made for him. now that he's fighting guys with top tier talent, he's looking "human". it's no coincidence...it's not about age. he didn't lose a step. he is who we thought he was.

His quickness, reflexes, and upper body movement is what sets him apart from most Mexican fighters we've ever seen above 147

 

[Newzz]

U think ggg won't be able to hit canelo?

GGG's jab is the key to the fight for him. If he gets that landing, and Canelo's in the pocket getting hit over and over with it, I can see cuts being opened