Get arrested in Switzerland brehs

[Chris.B]

The problem is you measure your happiness by dollars and work.

The Scandinavians are extremely content paying high taxes because they live better lives. They actually see benefit to their high taxes. Things we Americans stress about they don't.

They don't worry about paying for any preventive or other medical care. They don't worry about education costs and failing education institutions. They don't worry about taking maternity and paternity leave and losing money or their job. They can take sick pay and time off without losing their job. They can take a month paid vacation, from a janitor to a CEO. The income disparity is extremely low.

Now here's the funny part: we spend more per capita on some of those things than they do.

There is a reason why America is the most powerful nation on earth. High taxation kills innovation.

 

[Marvel]

Prison is supposed to be close to hell as possible

Where did I say that prisoners should be living lavish?

 

[Marvel]

There is a reason why America is the most powerful nation on earth. High taxation kills innovation.

Germany and Japan have high tax rates and they seem to be doing fine with innovation. What makes us innovative has little to do with tax and more with people that have access to resources and quality education.

 

[NSSVO]

No this is wrong. nikka did something wrong, your not supposed to reward people for fukking stabbing someone.

 

[PikaDaDon]

The problem is you measure your happiness by dollars and work.

The Scandinavians are extremely content paying high taxes because they live better lives. They actually see benefit to their high taxes. Things we Americans stress about they don't.

They don't worry about paying for any preventive or other medical care. They don't worry about education costs and failing education institutions. They don't worry about taking maternity and paternity leave and losing money or their job. They can take sick pay and time off without losing their job. They can take a month paid vacation, from a janitor to a CEO. The income disparity is extremely low.

Now here's the funny part: we spend more per capita on some of those things than they do.

Germany and Japan have high tax rates and they seem to be doing fine with innovation. What makes us innovative has little to do with tax and more with people that have access to resources and quality education.

The level of taxation is one of many variables which influence innovation. When people have more disposable income (low taxation) they have more freedom. From that freedom births innovation, ingenuity, creativity and profit motivation. Motivation is very important because if the government is taking care of everything for you then there's no motivation to do anything. Why bother getting a job when there are ample unemployment benefits provided by the government? Why bother maintaining a profitable company when the government will protect you in a bankruptcy?

Big government is a toxic entity in the human environment.

 

[Type Username Here]

There is a reason why America is the most powerful nation on earth. High taxation kills innovation.

Except the greatest period of innovation and growth in this country is when we had quasi-Socialist policies and extremely high taxation rate.

But there is no need to bring facts into this it seems.

 

[Chris.B]

Except the greatest period of innovation and growth in this country is when we had quasi-Socialist policies and extremely high taxation rate.

But there is no need to bring facts into this it seems.

what the fukk are you talking about? No European country can fukk with us because we do not tax at the outrageous rate they do.

In most of these countries the incentive to work is not there...That's why they are being run over by the immigrants

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

Well in Noru way, you pay a gajillion Euros for a small bottle of water. Just tax the heck out of everything. 40 to 50 percent of your gross income goes to the government. That's a backwards society.
Look at your paycheck, cut the gross amount in half. Would you be okay with that?

The average pay in 2011 was 36000 NOK/month which comes out to be almost $6000/month. That's $72000/year. Mind you, you have free health care, education, monthly alimony for having children etc. So yea, I think most people would be OK with paying 28% (which is the average personal income tax rate) for all that.


Try again.

Germany and Japan have high tax rates and they seem to be doing fine with innovation. What makes us innovative has little to do with tax and more with people that have access to resources and quality education.

He's not worthy of a response brah, an idiot to the tenth degree.

 

[Blackking]

These Scandinavian countries are really styling on us in terms of lifestyle.

how do they feel about black people over there?

 

[Blackking]

damn, yall got some dope ass post in here...

 

[Blackking]

The level of taxation is one of many variables which influence innovation. When people have more disposable income (low taxation) they have more freedom. From that freedom births innovation, ingenuity, creativity and profit motivation. Motivation is very important because if the government is taking care of everything for you then there's no motivation to do anything. Why bother getting a job when there are ample unemployment benefits provided by the government? Why bother maintaining a profitable company when the government will protect you in a bankruptcy?

Big government is a toxic entity in the human environment.

low taxes =/= more innovation. low taxes doesn't equal more disposable income.

intellectual freedom produces innovation. money has nothing to do with it.

The same government that promotes the ideas of low taxes = innovations ---- is also the same one the has gross corporate welfare, the same time as wealth gaps increase.

The US has big government the same as Scandinavian nations except that it's in reverse and fights for corporate interest instead of the interest of average citizens. What's more important-- a happier population or wealthier corporations and more prisoners and crime?

 

[PikaDaDon]

low taxes =/= more innovation. low taxes doesn't equal more disposable income.

intellectual freedom produces innovation. money has nothing to do with it.

The same government that promotes the ideas of low taxes = innovations ---- is also the same one the has gross corporate welfare, the same time as wealth gaps increase.

The US has big government the same as Scandinavian nations except that it's in reverse and fights for corporate interest instead of the interest of average citizens. What's more important-- a happier population or wealthier corporations and more prisoners and crime?

"The level of taxation is one of many variables which influence innovation"

You'd also need access to top quality education and resources. In this country intellectual freedom is under attack (or repressed) by the mainstream media, culture, etc. We live in a society which ostracizes intelligent people. And rather they discuss art, history, politics, etc. we're talking about who Kim Kardashian is dating or Beyonce's newest hair style. This poisonous society that we're unfortunately part of has an environment that doesn't foster free thinking and intellectual freedom. Our education system is disgraceful also. There's many things they should have taught us in high school that they didn't.

As for disposable income, in addition to low taxes you would need everything in the country to be cheap as well. Switzerland has low taxes but it's very expensive to live in. A bottle of beer is like 5 times the normal rate. People have argued that Switzerland has a form of 'stealth' tax. So even though you're paying a low income tax you're still overpaying for other things and will have less disposable income in the end.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Society is very hypocritical. How can you say you want to rehabilitate someone but on the other hand want them to suffer. Individuals, in their lust to see someone who has wronged in agony, dont realize they're perpetuating criminality by not supporting true rehabilitation programs like these. Good job Switzerland.

 

[unit321]

The average pay in 2011 was 36000 NOK/month which comes out to be almost $6000/month. That's $72000/year. Mind you, you have free health care, education, monthly alimony for having children etc. So yea, I think most people would be OK with paying 28% (which is the average personal income tax rate) for all that.


Try again.

The demographics of Norway are totally different than the US.
There are way more lower-income people and way more people living on welfare than in Norway. It's comparing apples to oranges. These tens of thousands of people on welfare pay zero tax because they make no money. The financial burden of supporting non-tax-paying citizens' medical insurance is much higher than it is in Norway.

Try again.

 

[unit321]

The problem is you measure your happiness by dollars and work.

The Scandinavians are extremely content paying high taxes because they live better lives. They actually see benefit to their high taxes. Things we Americans stress about they don't.

They don't worry about paying for any preventive or other medical care. They don't worry about education costs and failing education institutions. They don't worry about taking maternity and paternity leave and losing money or their job. They can take sick pay and time off without losing their job. They can take a month paid vacation, from a janitor to a CEO. The income disparity is extremely low.

Now here's the funny part: we spend more per capita on some of those things than they do.

. Just go to Scandinavia if it is such a big azz utopia.