Get arrested in Switzerland brehs

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I'm just going to assume you're trolling. Socialism is a bad thing. Nothing good can come with government having too much control.
 

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In the U.S. slavery was abolished for all except prisoners. Free labor - so they get treated like slaves and are forced to work making nickels and dimes.

Yep...the 13th amendment says:

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

The new slavery is the prison system:

Parchman Farms, Mississippi 1911, men working the plantation

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Parchman Farms, women's prison 1930, sewing and working the post office
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Yep...the 13th amendment says:
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

What's hilarious is that jury duty fits under that definition. But no one brings it up.
 

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im willing to bet violent in those countries are way way way lower than over here percentage wise.
 

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They have no crime rates because they have almost no poor or homeless people. Taxes are super high to fund the bottom under class of society, also norway has a small population and is sitting on a sea of oil similar to kuwait
 

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What's hilarious is that jury duty fits under that definition. But no one brings it up.

The military draft is involuntary as well. Dodge it and go to prison. Word to Cassius Clay.

They have no crime rates because they have almost no poor or homeless people. Taxes are super high to fund the bottom under class of society, also norway has a small population and is sitting on a sea of oil similar to kuwait

True, the correlation between poverty and crime is something that Americans don't understand. Fighting poverty is the best way to fight crime. In America, we believe that fighting crime eliminates crime :heh: Other modernized countries took steps to eliminate poverty and crime plummeted. People in government are not that stupid to continue doing what doesn't work, its just there are people in high places that profit on crime, the drug trade, and prison system. In order to benefit, you have to continue locking more people up. just like a dealership needs to keep selling cars to make money. This country has already identified the population that will be the "cars" to generate more money and the money is that good.
 

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They have no crime rates because they have almost no poor or homeless people. Taxes are super high to fund the bottom under class of society, also norway has a small population and is sitting on a sea of oil similar to kuwait
I don't want my tax money going to bums, b*stards, single moms and irresponsible people
 

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Yep...the 13th amendment says:
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

The new slavery is the prison system:

Parchman Farms, Mississippi 1911, men working the plantation

Parchman_prison_convict_labor_1911.jpeg


Parchman Farms, women's prison 1930, sewing and working the post office
Parchman_Penal_Farm._Female_prisoners_sewing..png

Female_prisoners_at_the_Parchman_Post_Office.png


Listen, almost no one around here is against private prisons, war on drugs, and so on as much as me but we can be fair and say that chain gangs and forced labor were found to be unconstitutional and that prison work is now done a voluntary basis. I'm all for shytting on arresting mass people, especially people of color, for trivial things to get cheap voluntary labor but I think the argument you're presenting is a bit misleading. Of course, abuses do happen.

Also, as I have addressed earlier, that law needs to specify that anyone convicted of a crime is punishable for involuntary servitude, because if it was voluntary I don't think we would have anyone in prison.
 

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Prison main goal is to remove misfits from society.

It should be close to hell as possible.
 

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The military draft is involuntary as well. Dodge it and go to prison. Word to Cassius Clay.



True, the correlation between poverty and crime is something that Americans don't understand. Fighting poverty is the best way to fight crime. In America, we believe that fighting crime eliminates crime :heh: Other modernized countries took steps to eliminate poverty and crime plummeted. People in government are not that stupid to continue doing what doesn't work, its just there are people in high places that profit on crime, the drug trade, and prison system. In order to benefit, you have to continue locking more people up. just like a dealership needs to keep selling cars to make money. This country has already identified the population that will be the "cars" to generate more money and the money is that good.
:yes:
Gotta watch out though.
People might start calling us socialists if we suggest that
we try to eliminate poverty in one of the richest
country's on the planet.
 

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Listen, almost no one around here is against private prisons, war on drugs, and so on as much as me but we can be fair and say that chain gangs and forced labor were found to be unconstitutional and that prison work is now done a voluntary basis. I'm all for shytting on arresting mass people, especially people of color, for trivial things to get cheap voluntary labor but I think the argument you're presenting is a bit misleading. Of course, abuses do happen.

Also, as I have addressed earlier, that law needs to specify that anyone convicted of a crime is punishable for involuntary servitude, because if it was voluntary I don't think we would have anyone in prison.

They were later to be found unconstitutional after nearly 100 years of practice in most states. I live less than a mile from a prison where men still work the fields. Most states decided on their own parameters. Now there is so much money in locking up people, they don't need to be "leased" out to private companies and farms for work. Each prisoner in use got an average of $43k a year to take care off.

Where does this money come from? Tax payers.
Who gets the money? Those that runs prisons and their friends in high places.
Who gets the contracts to build prisons? Publicly traded companies like Corrections Corporation of America (CCA), a publicly traded company and the GEO Group, also a publicly traded company, founded in 1983 and 1984, respectively....during the WAR ON DRUGS, its no a coincidence :ohhh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrections_Corporation_of_America
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEO_Group

These companies rely on increased incarceration to make more money. Just like a for profit school that is publicly traded needs more students for increased stock value. I am get you nikkas up on the game, I'm not reaching :birdman:
 

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It seems that the entire philosophy on criminalization is different in Scandinavia than in the US.

I would think that the US, a nation comprised of a Christian majority, would have the New Testament ideas of forgiveness and turning the other cheek at the forefront of their imprisonment philosophy.

Instead it is the less religious Scandinavians who have a maximum murder sentence of 21 years (Norway) with prison conditions that look like the Real World house.

Why is that brehs?

I suspect the answer has to do with having an individualist mentality versus a collective one, but I am not sure.
 
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