how would this help her get elected?She should have clinged doubled down TRIPLED down on all her positions
how would this help her get elected?She should have clinged doubled down TRIPLED down on all her positions
you should. his brand of weird fakkitry is like a political wrecking ball in purple areasSee, even if I don't fully agree with your PoV I finally understand the way you view things, and I can't disrespect you for having that view.
Should Kamala Harris have endorsed transgender surgeries for inmates?Difference is trump triples and doubles down on his lies , whereas democrats like kamala are scared to even combat ANY and every republican framing.
I'm not sure why she would need republicans and neocons apart of her campaign direction? I'd be like trump parading around tulsi gabbert, the entire dem electorate understands she's no longer apart of them.
And with that point of view the coalition gets smaller and smaller.See, even if I don't fully agree with your PoV I finally understand the way you view things, and I can't disrespect you for having that view.
Thanks for putting up with me everyone. I actually learned something today.
I truly dont get these voters or these rallies.Of course. Liz was one of the first and well known that was against Trump though. Adam kinzinger could have been another choice. The problem is for some even appearing on stage with any republican is an automatic deal breaker. If anything a better argument would be she went from focusing on her “opportunity economy” to “saving democracy” at the end.
Bernie is going to these republican districts hoping they forget their racism, homophobia, sexism etc in favor of economic unity to defeat fascism. These people would not be allowed in the same room if some people had their way.
You don't understand why she tried to get disenfranchised republicans away from Trump?
For me it seems like a reasonable pivot?
As long as you can do it and not compromise your ideals.
It feels like therein lies the crux of the issue.
Some folks see it as getting extra votes, some people see it as an outright betrayal.
Kamala wouldn’t have to scrounge for votes if so-called allies weren’t looking for the smallest reasons to jump off the bandwagon and attack democrats under the presumption Democrats would win and protect their right to protest endlessly.that was an argument that was made at the time that was completely contradictory to what else was being said at the time
The argument that every vote counts has to apply to everyone, not just the group(s) you feel are deserving of attention. She was trying to win over disaffected republicans desperate for a reason to vote against Trump, not neo nazis
Edit: @jj23 you already beat me to the punch
They’re running out of room. The gaza protestors and Dearborn muslims backed trump and got rewarded for it via ambassador roles and other appointments.@Loose @King Kreole
Is there any way the democrats could have messaged the overture to disenfranchised Republicans in your eyes without sounding like sellouts?
As I said, I don't agree with everything he said. That said. I honestly don't know if he is wrong or not, as the methods I thought would be successful ultimately weren't.And with that point of view the coalition gets smaller and smaller.
MAGA no
Republicans no
Disaffected republicans no
Centrists no
Anyone that wasn’t in a moral quandary about whether they should vote for Kamala Harris no
Progressives yes
People that felt voting in 2024 wasn’t worthwhile (and therefore probably never vote) yes
Good luck winning a general election.
how would this help her get elected?
I think whatever the answer is, it’s more than one thing. It is possible to have done positive things and still lost.As I said, I don't agree with everything he said. That said. I honestly don't know if he is wrong or not, as the methods I thought would be successful ultimately weren't.
Maybe it really come down to locking in, appealing to and turning out your base.
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Trump won 96% of republicans votes, please tell me what purpose courting Liz cheney serves except courting around a war crime familyAnd with that point of view the coalition gets smaller and smaller.
MAGA no
Republicans no
Disaffected republicans no
Centrists no
Anyone that wasn’t in a moral quandary about whether they should vote for Kamala Harris no
Progressives yes
People that felt voting in 2024 wasn’t worthwhile (and therefore probably never vote) yes
Good luck winning a general election.
I won’t because you at heart believe it served none, even though at the same you believe “every vote counts, why would the dems ignore (insert group you are interested in)”.Trump won 96% of republicans votes, please tell me what purpose courting Liz cheney serves![]()
so this is your logic now? numbers? goodplease tell me what purpose courting Liz cheney serves except courting around a war crime family![]()
The ironic part of this post is this is exactly what democrats did when they brought out Richie torres bill Clinton in Michigan and doubled down on the fukk Muslims constitute movement with liz cheneyI won’t because you at heart believe it served none, even though at the same you believe “every vote counts, why would the dems ignore (insert group you are interested in)”.
Again good luck building a coalition of 80+ million voters when you are constantly looking for reasons to boot people out.