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Difference is trump triples and doubles down on his lies , whereas democrats like kamala are scared to even combat ANY and every republican framing.


I'm not sure why she would need republicans and neocons apart of her campaign direction? I'd be like trump parading around tulsi gabbert, the entire dem electorate understands she's no longer apart of them.
Should Kamala Harris have endorsed transgender surgeries for inmates?
 

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See, even if I don't fully agree with your PoV I finally understand the way you view things, and I can't disrespect you for having that view.

Thanks for putting up with me everyone. I actually learned something today.
And with that point of view the coalition gets smaller and smaller.

MAGA no
Republicans no
Disaffected republicans no
Centrists no
Anyone that wasn’t in a moral quandary about whether they should vote for Kamala Harris no
Progressives yes
People that felt voting in 2024 wasn’t worthwhile (and therefore probably never vote) yes

Good luck winning a general election.
 

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Of course. Liz was one of the first and well known that was against Trump though. Adam kinzinger could have been another choice. The problem is for some even appearing on stage with any republican is an automatic deal breaker. If anything a better argument would be she went from focusing on her “opportunity economy” to “saving democracy” at the end.

Bernie is going to these republican districts hoping they forget their racism, homophobia, sexism etc in favor of economic unity to defeat fascism. These people would not be allowed in the same room if some people had their way.
I truly dont get these voters or these rallies.

Its barely been 60 days and people want to be saved.

More time passed from between Trump winning the election to his inauguration than between Trump’s inauguration and TODAY :mindblown:

 

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You don't understand why she tried to get disenfranchised republicans away from Trump?

For me it seems like a reasonable pivot?

As long as you can do it and not compromise your ideals.

It feels like therein lies the crux of the issue.

Some folks see it as getting extra votes, some people see it as an outright betrayal.
that was an argument that was made at the time that was completely contradictory to what else was being said at the time

The argument that every vote counts has to apply to everyone, not just the group(s) you feel are deserving of attention. She was trying to win over disaffected republicans desperate for a reason to vote against Trump, not neo nazis

Edit: @jj23 you already beat me to the punch
Kamala wouldn’t have to scrounge for votes if so-called allies weren’t looking for the smallest reasons to jump off the bandwagon and attack democrats under the presumption Democrats would win and protect their right to protest endlessly.

A lot of these dipshyts are just coming to terms with the reality that their protests actually worked but they weren’t prepared for actually dealing with Trump.
 

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Is there any way the democrats could have messaged the overture to disenfranchised Republicans in your eyes without sounding like sellouts?
They’re running out of room. The gaza protestors and Dearborn muslims backed trump and got rewarded for it via ambassador roles and other appointments.

This is why I say we should ignore them going forward.
 

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And with that point of view the coalition gets smaller and smaller.

MAGA no
Republicans no
Disaffected republicans no
Centrists no
Anyone that wasn’t in a moral quandary about whether they should vote for Kamala Harris no
Progressives yes
People that felt voting in 2024 wasn’t worthwhile (and therefore probably never vote) yes

Good luck winning a general election.
As I said, I don't agree with everything he said. That said. I honestly don't know if he is wrong or not, as the methods I thought would be successful ultimately weren't.

Maybe it really come down to locking in, appealing to and turning out your base.

:yeshrug:
 

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As I said, I don't agree with everything he said. That said. I honestly don't know if he is wrong or not, as the methods I thought would be successful ultimately weren't.

Maybe it really come down to locking in, appealing to and turning out your base.

:yeshrug:
I think whatever the answer is, it’s more than one thing. It is possible to have done positive things and still lost.

Democracies across the globe have been turning right for years. That happened before Kamala slopped together a campaign in 100 days. There is a deeper issue at play and one of the components of that issue is its alot easier to mobilize hate.
 

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And with that point of view the coalition gets smaller and smaller.

MAGA no
Republicans no
Disaffected republicans no
Centrists no
Anyone that wasn’t in a moral quandary about whether they should vote for Kamala Harris no
Progressives yes
People that felt voting in 2024 wasn’t worthwhile (and therefore probably never vote) yes

Good luck winning a general election.
Trump won 96% of republicans votes, please tell me what purpose courting Liz cheney serves except courting around a war crime family :dead:
 

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Trump won 96% of republicans votes, please tell me what purpose courting Liz cheney serves :dead:
I won’t because you at heart believe it served none, even though at the same you believe “every vote counts, why would the dems ignore (insert group you are interested in)”.

Again good luck building a coalition of 80+ million voters when you are constantly looking for reasons to boot people out.
 

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I won’t because you at heart believe it served none, even though at the same you believe “every vote counts, why would the dems ignore (insert group you are interested in)”.

Again good luck building a coalition of 80+ million voters when you are constantly looking for reasons to boot people out.
The ironic part of this post is this is exactly what democrats did when they brought out Richie torres bill Clinton in Michigan and doubled down on the fukk Muslims constitute movement with liz cheney :dead:


But hey let's court the imaginary 5 never trump republicans that I'm sure will help her win
 
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