Gen Z women are increasingly leaving organized religion behind

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your "god's" priorities are trash

guy cares if you have premarital sex, meanwhile he sat around and watched 9/11 happen :camby:

just keep that same smoke for traditional African gods…why did Olodumare allow the African continent to get raped by europeans?
 
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liberal secularism also resulted in the scientific progress... scientific knowledge marches forward
This is a bold assertion to so directly correlate advances in science with the philosophies that produced liberal secularism.

If science keeps advancing in the manner(s) that it currently is, and certain technological ideas are pushed, humanity as we know it could quite possibly cease to exist. Transhumanism and/or some form of "living in the pod" or "brain in the vat" is not some far fetched science fiction - nor a mere thought experiment in 2024.
released us from ancient ignorance and superstition, expanded the concept of human rights...in modern Liberal secular societies no longer have to constrict themselves to old ideas on what makes for a good life
For the sake of argument, let's just say that religion is actually ignorant constrictive old ideas based in superstition. Can you demonstrate, to any reasonable criterion, that liberal secularism produces better functioning societies than religion does?
 

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This is a bold assertion to so directly correlate advances in science with the philosophies that produced liberal secularism.

If science keeps advancing in the manner(s) that it currently is, and certain technological ideas are pushed, humanity as we know it could quite possibly cease to exist. Transhumanism and/or some form of "living in the pod" or "brain in the vat" is not some far fetched science fiction - nor a mere thought experiment in 2024.

For the sake of argument, let's just say that religion is actually ignorant constrictive old ideas based in superstition. Can you demonstrate, to any reasonable criterion, that liberal secularism produces better functioning societies than religion does?

Not that bold. Liberal Secularism has a distinct link to the Enlightenment tradition and values, which has its roots in the early "natural philosophy" of the Greeks that predated it. If you read the works of Voltaire he advocated for separation of church and state , freedom of thought and expression of ideas. All these things contribute to scientific progress.



If you want a criterion look no further than child mortality rates, rates of poverty, and lifespans. Liberal secular societies tend to do better on these metrics. I mean most would agree that less impoverished healthier people living longer lives contributes to an overall better functioning society. Idk though maybe the criterion for you is a society of close and large kinship networks that deal witha great deal of want, disease and early death. It's more of what you consider "well functioning" and that's a question of values.
 

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Good. Organized religion isn't of God and it's basura and :duck:. May the trend continue. :blessed: May the LORD lead them to the real Him AND NOT RELIGION!!! :blessed:
 

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Gen Z women read the Bible or Quran and notice 1) they aren't supposed to be promiscuous or whores 2) they are supposed to listen to their man. 3) They are supposed to be secondary to their man. 4) no gossiping

They see that and are like 'FOH I gotta be me.'
Also says they should be the property of they man
 

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Not that bold. Liberal Secularism has a distinct link to the Enlightenment tradition and values, which has its roots in the early "natural philosophy" of the Greeks that predated it. If you read the works of Voltaire he advocated for separation of church and state , freedom of thought and expression of ideas. All these things contribute to scientific progress.
This is just question begging.
If you want a criterion look no further than child mortality rates, rates of poverty, and lifespans. Liberal secular societies tend to do better on these metrics. I mean most would agree that less impoverished healthier people living longer lives contributes to an overall better functioning society.

You're conveniently attributing all of this to a dominant philosophy. Hegemony is maintained via political tactics that keep Nations that lack military might in compromising conditions.

"Because religion" is a quick cop-out
 
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