Gay Black Men Earn More Money Than Straight Black Men & The Same As Straight White Men

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Gay women also do well climbing the corporate ladder ll. My boss is actually a lesbian. I think gay people tend to have personality traits that helps them in the corporate world.

What traits are those?
A "masculine" woman and an "effeminate" man will what?? Or has what that helps the corporate world?

:dame:

They're also less "threatening" to employers than straight black men. Yet, some people don't want to acknowledge that. :noneofmybusinessthough:

Worldstar Hip Hop will contradict that ...:russ:
 

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You are manipulating the statistics to suit your warped agenda. While black women unemployment rates aren't falling, they are only just now at or near the overall black male unemployment rate. Before this juncture black women had a consistently lower unemployment rate than black men, which supports the notion that whites privilege black women before black men. Males simply do not fear women, including black women, like they do men, including black men. Women obviously are not to blame for what men think, regardless, but the facts are the facts.
Black women might have had a lower unemployment rate previously because of more education.
You never give proof for your stance.Only repeat conjecture.
 

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Your statistic is misleading: Black women are not paid less because of greater animus from men but rather because black women--most women in fact--congregate in jobs and professions that pay less than the jobs and professions men typically congregate in. Remove this confounding factor and black women probably get paid more than black men.

Also, the study does reflect what happens in reality if homosexual black men have advantages in employment, retention and pay that mirrors white men. This implies that white people don't see homosexual black men in the same way they see heterosexual black men.
How do you know this? So your guess on how black women fare(w/o confounding factors) is any more valid?
 

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What traits are those?
A "masculine" woman and an "effeminate" man will what?? Or has what that helps the corporate world?

:dame:



Worldstar Hip Hop will contradict that ...:russ:

To be fair, I was speaking about gay black men in white collar professions. :russ:
 

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You said black women are hired at a higher rate.If black women are qualified educationally more often,then no wonder they're hired more.
On the other hand,black men and black women of equal education and similar work hours,black men get paid more.

Black men have the advantage.
nope

They use a bunch of simple indicators to determine the effectiveness of affirmative action and the same indicators that show white women benefit from it the most, show black and Latina women benefit from it more than black men.

ABA Focus Volume XIII, Number 2 -- Gender, Race and Affirmative Action

"For black men, class and race are issues but the norm of working full time for pay is not a problem. Thus, affirmative action is important for them not to get them into the full time labor force, but to move them from the labor force into jobs that they deserve. For black women, class and race are obviously issues, as are gender norms and roles-but employers report being more eager to hire black women than black men, and sometimes more than white women. Thus, affirmative action is important for them to offset the multiple disadvantages of class, race, and gender, but it is perhaps less important than for white women in relation to roles and norms and less important than for black men in relation to stereotypes of competence and collegiality. So affirmative action seems necessary for different reasons for the three groups. It will probably work better for different groups in different circumstances. It is probably less necessary at this point for white women than it used to be, but I would insist that it was essential in the 1970s and 1980s to get the process of changing norms and roles jumpstarted."

black woman hiring bias versus black males has been observed in white employers, when both candidates have identical resumes.
 

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Really tired of this crap about Black women having it easier in the labor market. As if we don't legitimately earn the little that we do have (and go through the fire doing it).

Black Women Are The Only Demographic Not Gaining Jobs (from 2013, not 1998)
Black Women Are The Only Demographic Not Gaining Jobs

Employment Rate Data (from 2013, not 1998)
DOL Special Reports - The African-American Labor Force in the Recovery
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As Chart 4 illustrates, 2011 employment rates for African-American men and women, aged 20 and older, remain below pre-recession levels. Overall, black men and white men are employed at higher rates than are black women and white women. However, employment rates have fallen much more sharply for men than for women in either racial group since the 2007-2009 recession began. In recent months, there have been signs of improvement in employment rates for black men. The share of black men with a job has risen from its May 2011 low of 56 percent to 59.7 percent in January 2012. That is the highest employment rate since February 2009.

Bonus Chart on Wage (gay males earning more is what this thread is about...which is even more reason why throwing BW under the bus shouldn't be happening):
imrs.php
 

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Really tired of this crap about Black women having it easier in the labor market. As if we don't legitimately earn the little that we do have (and go through the fire doing it).

Black Women Are The Only Demographic Not Gaining Jobs (from 2013, not 1998)
Black Women Are The Only Demographic Not Gaining Jobs

Employment Rate Data (from 2013, not 1998)
DOL Special Reports - The African-American Labor Force in the Recovery
4.jpg


As Chart 4 illustrates, 2011 employment rates for African-American men and women, aged 20 and older, remain below pre-recession levels. Overall, black men and white men are employed at higher rates than are black women and white women. However, employment rates have fallen much more sharply for men than for women in either racial group since the 2007-2009 recession began. In recent months, there have been signs of improvement in employment rates for black men. The share of black men with a job has risen from its May 2011 low of 56 percent to 59.7 percent in January 2012. That is the highest employment rate since February 2009.

Bonus Chart on Wage (gay males earning more is what this thread is about...which is even more reason why throwing BW under the bus shouldn't be happening):
imrs.php
stats lie...my opinions are based on experience and cant convince blk women arent winning
 
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