Gay Black Men Earn More Money Than Straight Black Men & The Same As Straight White Men

[PlainSight]

Oh that I don't know. I would guess because either they feel more connected/united with their gay lifestyle rather than identifying as a member of the black community.

I'd say the same. Given my experiences growing up around fellow black people and peers with mostly homophobic leanings, my educated guess would be that being a homosexual black men tend not to be as accepted by other black people. A lot of us are so conditioned to believe it's wrong or a sin that we do tend not to accept them, and this can lead to them gravitating towards people that understand that particular struggle. This has gotten better over the years, but of course now I see a lot of older black people looking about the whole thing.

 

[Knuckles Red]

Straight black men aren't a threat either

Thats what seems to be going over everybody's head in this comment section. But conversations like this are pointless. You're dealing with a very ignorant group of people who are using these "statistics" as conformation bias, in an effort to justify their bigotry while, at the same time, pacify their insecurities. Black people, in general, aren't a threat to white supremacy!! Some of these comments, man. People just talking out of their ass with no corroboration to support their claims.

 

[wickedsm]

They did say it was retail mgmt.
retail is very guy friendly. Hetero males of any color are in the minority in most large fashion retailers,
mgmt at least.

 

[calixprynce]

Thats what seems to be going over everybody's head in this comment section. But conversations like this are pointless. You're dealing with a very ignorant group of people who are using these "statistics" as conformation bias, in an effort to justify their bigotry while, at the same time, pacify their insecurities. Black people, in general, aren't a threat to white supremacy!! Some of these comments, man. People just talking out of their ass with no corroboration to support their claims.

And yo cracker ass talkin out of yo ass thinking you black

 

[Zero]

"D'angelo...you better bend the fukk over"

 

[The 2020 New Member]

I suppose we're better fighting together as blacks, period. And I do understand that there are different fronts on which to fight yet I still believe that white supremacy is the only enemy worth fighting as black people. Even if we were to fight on different fronts successfully, we'll still experience a disparate impact on the black community. We'll still be seen as black first and, thus, second class. Hence, white supremacy needs to be reckoned with before anything else.

Moreover, I submit to you that black men never had a meaningful opportunity (outside the Civil Rights Movement) to "fix" the black community, mainly due to the feminist movement, welfare, institutional racism, the war on drugs, mass incarceration of blacks, etc. Yet now, it's apparent that women cannot run the black community, which has become a full-fledged matriarchy.

Word. I suggest you stop looking at white supremacy as a poison ivy and realize it's an enormous tree that we've been conditioned to hang ourselves from. Or rather, look deeper(not trying to insult your intelligence). The 14th amendment was a meaningful opportunity(Segregation, Integration, Hiphop/jazz/rock and roll. All also great opportunities.);The mentality of black men thwarted it's total potential in tandem with the climate. At this point, we just can't keep resenting each other (which is why I appreciate this dialogue). How we're seen won't matter once we all truly see each other. Maybe, I'm too optimistic but I believe that. To be completely blunt, it doesn't matter what the dominant society and their constituents think of us. We will always be viewed differently because of our skin. The main reason we havent "overcome" is because we've lost ourselves in trying to be like the others. After all of our innovations and culture have been exploited and repackaged, we still need/allow a white person to tell us what we are. We always answer to a white person, let the media tell it. So what's the difference between a queer with a job and a hustler in the street? Or anyone else in between? Nothing, if she or he is black. fukk the approval. Applaud your brother's success even if you disagree with his life choices and use it as motivation to keep the tables turning. It's not what is done, but what you do that counts.

 

[twhatever]

1. I was focusing on equally-qualified bm and bw; my main point: employers will ALWAYS favor hiring bw over an equally-qualified bm. Hence why bm employment (even including those with collegiate and advanced degrees) pales in comparison to that of bw with similar education, etc.

2. Black men are the last to be hired and first to be fired. What the fukk kind of advantage are you talking about?

Here's the reality:
Unemployment rates are falling for nearly every group of Americans -- except for black women. About 10.6 percent of adult African-American women age 20 or older are unemployed, unchanged from a year ago, according to a 2014 report from the Labor Department.

The unemployment rate for adult African-American men declined to 10.8 percent from 13.4 percent a year ago. While black men suffered more job losses than black women during the recession, black women continued to lose jobs during the recovery while black men regained jobs.

 

[godkiller]

I'm sick of ppl saying black women have it easier.Black men are paid 75% of what white men are.Black women,64%.


As for the study,it says nothing on what happens in reality.What ppl will say in a cutesy,simulated reality Create-Your Own-Workplace type study environment might not be a reflection of everyday life.I'd like to see actual data on how homosexual black men fare.

Your statistic is misleading: Black women are not paid less because of greater animus from men but rather because black women--most women in fact--congregate in jobs and professions that pay less than the jobs and professions men typically congregate in. Remove this confounding factor and black women probably get paid more than black men.

Also, the study does reflect what happens in reality if homosexual black men have advantages in employment, retention and pay that mirrors white men. This implies that white people don't see homosexual black men in the same way they see heterosexual black men.

 

[godkiller]

Neither are straight black men. 10% of the population breh and of that 5% are black men, there is no way in hell we could ever be a threat, we just don't have the numbers.

Whether black men at 6% of the US population are an actual threat to white supremacy is besides the point. What matters is whether white men and people perceive black men as a threat as to white supremacy above and beyond other races and genders. And the fact is that yes, white men see black men as a predominate threat to their dominance. This is actually true of all men, not just whites.

 

[godkiller]

Everybody needs a scapegoat for their issues/failures/anger. With white people its blacks, and other minorities. Within the black community its women, and gay people. Thats all this is really about. And like you said, black males (gay or straight) are absolutely NO threat to white supremacy. We make up such a small percentage of the American population. I also don't believe this study, at all. Where I work there are straight black men, and I've never seen a gay black man where I work. I see straight black dudes all the time working. I guess it just depends on where you live.

Whether black are or are not an actual threat to white supremacy like whether Iran is an actual threat to the US to irrelevant. White people and the US still act on the threat of black men and Iran.

A few days ago I came across an article by a researcher studying this topic and he concludes that studies do imply the reason homosexual black men are favored in the workplace above black men is due to the notion homosexual black men are seen as less threatening. So if common sense, researchers and studies all suggest that homosexual black men get advantages from whites because they are seen as less threatening, that's the answer. The researcher's even spell out the theory for you:

"'Stereotypes about gay men as effeminate and weak will counteract common negative stereotypes held by whites that black men are threatening and criminal.

'Thus, I argue that being gay will have negative consequences for white men in the job application process, but that being gay will actually have positive consequences for black men in this realm.'"

 

[wet landscapes]

I believe this to be true - gay men, like women, tend to condition themselves to be far more socially adept [in a number of different scenarios] than heterosexual men. At least in my observations.

you learn to edit yourself and conduct yourself, it's like you're constantly making sure you're coming off right...it's hard to explain

 

[godkiller]

Agenda in full swing. They will do anything to emasculate us. But..........if true then I suppose we just pretend we're gay during interviews and we're in.

If black men pretend they are gay, they will soon begin to internalize gay characteristics and will then voluntarily and prize emasculation. In effect black men will have made themselves weak, effeminate and slavish while other men retain their characteristics. And then black men will have done and transformed themselves into the very thing their enemies want them to become. Indeed, black men having to act like sexless faq eunuchs to non-black kings--like was the case thousands of years ago--in order to work and survive at the king's feet, is slavery by any other name.

Word. I suggest you stop looking at white supremacy as a poison ivy and realize it's an enormous tree that we've been conditioned to hang ourselves from. Or rather, look deeper(not trying to insult your intelligence). The 14th amendment was a meaningful opportunity(Segregation, Integration, Hiphop/jazz/rock and roll. All also great opportunities.);The mentality of black men thwarted it's total potential in tandem with the climate. At this point, we just can't keep resenting each other (which is why I appreciate this dialogue). How we're seen won't matter once we all truly see each other. Maybe, I'm too optimistic but I believe that. To be completely blunt, it doesn't matter what the dominant society and their constituents think of us. We will always be viewed differently because of our skin. The main reason we havent "overcome" is because we've lost ourselves in trying to be like the others. After all of our innovations and culture have been exploited and repackaged, we still need/allow a white person to tell us what we are. We always answer to a white person, let the media tell it. So what's the difference between a queer with a job and a hustler in the street? Or anyone else in between? Nothing, if she or he is black. fukk the approval. Applaud your brother's success even if you disagree with his life choices and use it as motivation to keep the tables turning. It's not what is done, but what you do that counts.

It is clearly unjust and absurd to place blame on gay men for what others impose on them. It is no different to blame the chess piece for the chess master's moves. They are puppets as much as straight and gay men are puppets in this crazy corporate dance

 

[godkiller]

Here's the reality:
Unemployment rates are falling for nearly every group of Americans -- except for black women. About 10.6 percent of adult African-American women age 20 or older are unemployed, unchanged from a year ago, according to a 2014 report from the Labor Department.

The unemployment rate for adult African-American men declined to 10.8 percent from 13.4 percent a year ago. While black men suffered more job losses than black women during the recession, black women continued to lose jobs during the recovery while black men regained jobs.

You are manipulating the statistics to suit your warped agenda. While black women unemployment rates aren't falling, they are only just now at or near the overall black male unemployment rate. Before this juncture black women had a consistently lower unemployment rate than black men, which supports the notion that whites privilege black women before black men. Males simply do not fear women, including black women, like they do men, including black men. Women obviously are not to blame for what men think, regardless, but the facts are the facts.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Please... Tell me something that I don't know/like if we have sex, you don't want dough... - Mase

The ivory towers breed capt obviouses.

Threatening!?!? Crackers shoot up places of work! Strikes Young, black and male. Don't forget to add straight to the mix now.

 

[PlainSight]

you learn to edit yourself and conduct yourself, it's like you're constantly making sure you're coming off right...it's hard to explain

As an autistic person, I do get it, albeit from a different perspective.