Gavin Newsom vs Ron Desantis in '24

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You know better than this. :comeon:
I’m tired of the excuses they do absolutely nothing for us. It’s gotten old we’re having our right stripped from us democrats won’t even use harsh wording towards republicans. I’m also tired of you mother fukkers finger wagging people that are rightfully angry

fukk off with that shyt and stop making excuses for people that won’t even speak up for oppressed people and are more concerned with making sure people respect the court than their protecting their constituents.

Democrats are always caught flat footed and never working to counter republicans despite all the evil shyt republicans do. I’m fukking sick of it and everyone else is too
 

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Where you went to school matters. Credentials matter. Alot. If desantis went to some random state school no one would consider him.l a threat but rather a looney. Ironically, Regan and bush Jr were republicans who care less about credentials than democrats. Newsome vs desantis would not look good for the former.

W went to Yale and was the governor of texas
 

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I’m tired of the excuses they do absolutely nothing for us. It’s gotten old we’re having our right stripped from us democrats won’t even use harsh wording towards republicans. I’m also tired of you mother fukkers finger wagging people that are rightfully angry

fukk off with that shyt and stop making excuses for people that won’t even speak up for oppressed people and are more concerned with making sure people respect the court than their protecting their constituents.

Democrats are always caught flat footed and never working to counter republicans despite all the evil shyt republicans do. I’m fukking sick of it and everyone else is too

I’m so tired of this nonsense of conservative Dems constantly wanting to elect feckless cowardly leaders who never so shot for Anyone enough is enough
I don't disagree with any of that, but you know damn well Dems do not "literally have all three branches of government." :comeon:

We can criticize Dem leadership without lying about it.
 
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It’s waste of time to argue with y’all you never change and only do the same awful ideas over and over again. It’s a bad cycle but we get it folks like you don’t want better that’s fine. Some of us do

Y’all are as bad as the fascists at this point. Anything to stop progress
It’s not that we don’t want better, it’s just that we’re not emotional voters. Republicans have a solid, vote red no matter what religious base. They don’t ever change their vote. To combat that, you have to vote blue, just so the red guy doesn’t get in. Far more change happens on the state and local level.
 
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I don't disagree with any of that, but you know damn well Dems do not "literally have all three branches of government." :comeon:

We can criticize Dem leadership without lying about it.
Wait are u trying to say democrats don’t have majorities in house, senate and executive because they do. They literally do have that lol. What on earth, that’s literally what’s happening right now. Them having the votes is a different story but to say they don’t literally have a majority is a lie lol

It would be a lie to say they don’t
Have majorities. It’s the democrats failures and a complete inability to whip votes something the republicans have no problem doing.

At some point y’all will stop making excuses for them
 
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It’s not that we don’t want better, it’s just that we’re not emotional voters. Republicans have a solid, vote red no matter what religious base. They don’t ever change their vote. To combat that, you have to vote blue, just so the red guy doesn’t get in. Far more change happens on the state and local level.
Not
For people in the south. We need change at the federal level because we’ve all be stripped of representation via gerrymandering and legislatures are literally throwing out results they don’t like now but I know u mother fukkers don’t give a fukk about us so it doesn’t matter. fukk you

Not being angry or emotional is a sign that u don’t give a fukk because none of this negatively affects you. Also it’s hilarious because it’s obvious you don’t put as much education or time into looking into who ur voting for but you’ll call my Voting pattens “emotional” kinda like how the media calls wanting people to have healthcare “extremism”. What a well trained Dog you are.

Not caring policies is also how we got here. Keep voting For ghouls who won’t stand up or fight for U. I’m taking a pass on that I’ll only be voting for progressives because voting for neoliberals literally doesn’t accomplish anything either.

We’re never going to see eye to
Eye on this because when it comes down to it none of this actually matters to you. So let’s not waste our time continuing this back n forth
 
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i don't even know how the hype for desantis even started. at least california has a real higher education system and homegrown industries that are fed by that world class system. florida has tourism. i moved here because i was doing remote work and traveling on assignments long before that shyt was the wave and i moved to an area that wasn't too far from some family that i like and low cost of living (it's not low anymore, but i got in early).
CA is a state run by one party, so there is no excuse for the policy decisions made here. Politics aside, bad decisions by leadership of the state is the reason why CA has the worst climate for business (especially small business), most of the country's homeless, rampant and increasing crime rate, excessive taxes on all levels/sectors, a dismal K-12 educational system, billion$ of unfunded pension liability, crumbling infrastructure, and the highest petrol prices/gallon to name a few issues. Check the receipts from the highest profile leaders from CA for yourself - Waters, Bass, Newsome, Pelosi, Feinstein, Harris - how do you think they are perceived beyond the left coast? What are their actual accomplishments? I have my own experience and but I caution about making decisions based on surface impressions - there's a reason Harris didn't win her own state in the Primary (hint: we knew her).
OK that's all I have. Now I have to go rip up my lawn and install solar because of looming energy & water price spikes.
 
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This was the goal of the “don’t say gay” and “CRT” bills not whatever the fukk those dumb fukk paste eaters on TLR think it is. The destruction of the public school system. They’re eyeing crippling the universities next as well. They believe education should only be for the rich
 

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I’m so tired of this nonsense of conservative Dems constantly wanting to elect feckless cowardly leaders who never do shyt for anyone. enough is enough
the key word there is "elect". id rather look bad and win, than look good and lose :mjpls:

but i'll tell you one thing. if this far left nominee in wisconsin actually beats ron johnson in november, i'll start giving progressives a lot more respect nationally :ehh:huge race/indicator
 
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You can say Gavin isn't well liked. But Desantis isn't liked nationally. Most states think Florida is a disaster. DeSantis won't win a presidential election, nor the Repub nomination.
 
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