Gavin Newsom vs Ron Desantis in '24

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Trump won those states by the thinnest of margins and that's because most people refused to vote. It's unlikely that people will stay home again considering the consequences of the 2016 election
PA and OH got redder after Trump. It would be hard for CA liberal to win there.
 

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i don't even know how the hype for desantis even started. at least california has a real higher education system and homegrown industries that are fed by that world class system. florida has tourism. i moved here because i was doing remote work and traveling on assignments long before that shyt was the wave and i moved to an area that wasn't too far from some family that i like and low cost of living (it's not low anymore, but i got in early).
Because DeSantis manipulated covid data, didn’t enforce mask mandates etc to make it look like Florida did great throughout the whole pandemic. Conservatives loved him. Add in the anti gay bill, the Disney thing etc. he’s the fascist they’re looking for
 

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They just think a California guy can’t win.
I thought Newsom was doing good work out there overall. What’s the beef? :pachaha:
The guy was almost recalled in his own state. The Coli is grossly over estimating how “liked” Newsome is. I would bet DeSantis is far more favorable to his own state than Gavin is. Gavin is an elitist. I don't think thats gonna sit well nationally with the Dem base.
 

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The guy was almost recalled in his own state. The Coli is grossly over estimating how “liked” Newsome is. I would bet DeSantis is far more favorable to his own state than Gavin is. Gavin is an elitist. I don't think thats gonna sit well nationally with the Dem base.
He wasn't close to being recalled and he's the favorite to win a second term. :pachaha:
 

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Winning is the priority. Not ideas
It’s waste of time to argue with y’all you never change and only do the same awful ideas over and over again. It’s a bad cycle but we get it folks like you don’t want better that’s fine. Some of us do

Y’all are as bad as the fascists at this point. Anything to stop progress
 

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It’s waste of time to argue with y’all you never change and only do the same awful ideas over and over again. It’s a bad cycle but we get it folks like you don’t want better that’s fine. Some of us do

Y’all are as bad as the fascists at this point. Anything to stop progress
If you never gain power nothing can get done
 
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