Game of Thrones - "House Of The Dragon" Official Threads (NO SPOILERS....ZERO)

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You are using Larys' reasoning to get rewarded for said action as a justification for Alicent being behind the plot that's not true
Alicent realizes she has to tell him straight up not to act when talking with him

Alicent complaining about her situation is not asking for death like Rhaenyra literally saying she wants Laenor dead to marry Daemon

Do you see the difference?
I see the fact she took advantage of the situation and didn’t turn him in.

Larys could have done a number of things to get rid of the Hand but he chose murder. That’s on him. Alicent going ahead with the situation is when she became complicit.

Aiding a crime is the same as helping to committing it.
 

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So if we are moralizing each side
after this episode Team Black has this huge pile of corpses of the people they have directly killed or slighted because they are incompetent war mongers

and then on Team Green we have a bunch of religious hypocrites who protect the small folk and actually care about their subjects


Nice to see the showrunners understand that the heroic side kills the people they are supposed to protect and this political system hinges on the small folk even putting up with this system of government


If this was Game of Thrones we'd have Robb or Jon talk about how honorable it is to not kill in the dark and then wage a war where so many more people will die
That's the hypocrisy that's inherent to the setting
the little ppl dont matter nikka, thats the message. Even for team green the little ppl are just pawns, thats why they were there for the crowning in the first place. The idea is to get the ppl on Green side. At the level of the game the lords play, a few losses of the plebs is more than acceptable. Certainly over the loss of lords and lands.
 

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I dont feel that I am.

I feel like the writers established Aegon is unreliable, untrustworthy, and doesn’t believe in responsibility or duty. So when a crucial part of the plan comes, that’s where the problem comes from is good writing,

Viserys is a plotter, but his plans usually fall apart because of the stronger bonds of Rhaenyra coming through for her(Viserys at the throne, Rhaenys and the dragon, no to the marriage proposal, and Viserys firing him on his daughters advice).

The guy who pimped our his daughter and grandson for power consistently thwarted by actual familial strength.
its not about aegon as a character. its how clumsily all these events were thrown together

why does otto, a guy who's literally met mysaria before when he had a direct confrontation with daemon somehow come to the point where he's asking her where his grandson is on the day he's wagered everything on

he's shown to have an information network in the past, but somehow not only does he not know of her being back in KL but he's also forced to meet her in the open to get access to *her* information to find his heir - who is stuffed into some cubbyhole in the middle of a horribly conspicuous building

this was worse than some of the season 8 shyt the more i think about it lol...
 

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Whoever picked Baela to be Rhaenys granddaughter did a good job casting now that I really get a close up on her face. She do look like she could be her mixed granddaughter. Now the other one Rhaena dont really look like her :patrice:
 

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its not about aegon as a character. its how clumsily all these events were thrown together

why does otto, a guy who's literally met mysaria before when he had a direct confrontation with daemon somehow come to the point where he's asking her where his grandson is on the day he's wagered everything on

he's shown to have an information network in the past, but somehow not only does he not know of her being back in KL but he's also forced to meet her in the open to get access to *her* information to find his heir - who is stuffed into some cubbyhole in the middle of a horribly conspicuous building

this was worse than some of the season 8 shyt the more i think about it lol...
that was 20 years ago. Shes gotten way more powerful since then when she was a tool for Daemon to parade around.

Just like with the oaths to make Rhaenyra heir aren’t the same people. Otto has only been back six years. She had years to gain spies when he wasn’t around,
 

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that was 20 years ago. Shes gotten way more powerful since then when she was a tool for Daemon to parade around.

Just like with the oaths to make Rhaenyra heir aren’t the same people. Otto has only been back six years. She had years to gain spies when he wasn’t around,

HER SPY WAS THE SAME ONE
WHO TOLD OTTO ABOUT
RHAE/DAEMON IN THE BROTHEL.

DOESNT MAKE MUCH SENSE
FOR HIM TO TAKE THAT INFO
AS TRUTH WITHOUT
KNOWING WHO IT CAME FROM.

:devil:
:evil:
 

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the little ppl dont matter nikka, thats the message. Even for team green the little ppl are just pawns, thats why they were there for the crowning in the first place. The idea is to get the ppl on Green side. At the level of the game the lords play, a few losses of the plebs is more than acceptable. Certainly over the loss of lords and lands.
The Game of Thrones is a game that the high lords and ladies play
The Small folk are pretty team no one in general but when they do takes sides like in this episode it becomes significant

They are props but they do have agency as they can absolutely rise up against the monarchy

Rhaenyra's casual way of showing how she dismisses them is going to set her a part from Aegon imo
 

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ion get why ageon dont want to be king.... The king can do whatever he wants... like move the fighting pit from flea bottom to the red keep and fukk as many servant girls as he wants..

He'll realize that in time...he's just now finally getting the "love" from the people he never got from his parents.
 

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A woman of Wisdom, unconditional Love of Family and Power under PRESSURE :whew:
Corlys chose wisely :salute:
They better put RESPECT on Rhaenys’ name :ufdup:
“The Queen that never was” :wow::wow::wow:

She been good with me :obama:

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that was 20 years ago. Shes gotten way more powerful since then when she was a tool for Daemon to parade around.

Just like with the oaths to make Rhaenyra heir aren’t the same people. Otto has only been back six years. She had years to gain spies when he wasn’t around,
so otto let daemon's jumpoff not only frolic around unchecked, as she was claimed to be pregnant the last time he saw her as well, but actually gain enough power to ransom his grandson too :unimpressed:
 
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