Fueled by Bribes, Somalia’s Election Seen as Milestone of Corruption (Farmaajo is Somali President!)

[thatrapsfan]

Who will be PM? This is big symbolic challenge for Farmaajo. He must ensure that he picks a new face. Picking Sharif would be terrible optics.

If he wants to keep up the populism and good will, he should pick a woman.

 

[Trajan]

Trust me Im happy and optimistic as well. The whole idea of a candidate that is widely popular across regions/clans is unprecedented. Im also very happy that politics has gotten people back home optimistic for a change.

Im just saying we must manage expectations or you will see people calling him a hypocrite/sellout in record time.

I agree 100%

He's not the messiah . The local powers like Kenya, Ethiopia can make things very difficult for him.

And Somalis are fickle. Remember when one PM (I forget who) shaved down the cabinet and came up with 10 ministers? The clans who didn't get anything automatically went into mucaarad mode


But the bar is so low and his popularity so high he has the potential go down as a GOAT Somali if he plays his cards right

 

[Trajan]

Somali politicians end up broke because they have a massive circle of dependence that relies on their patronage. Have you ever heard of how packed the offices of new PMs/Presidents are the moment they get elected, with their clansmen asking for handouts

Farmaajo must ensure he doesnt succumb to pressure from his clan to staff his office with them or people will sour quick.

You're right. 5* hotel bills in Nairobi add up lol. The good thing is he didn't show those tendencies of nepotism when he was PM. He was even handed.

Who will be PM? This is big symbolic challenge for Farmaajo. He must ensure that he picks a new face. Picking Sharif would be terrible optics.

If he wants to keep up the populism and good will, he should pick a woman.

At the bolded I actually had that thought. One thing I will say is he is very media/PR savvy and is clearly influenced by American style electioneering. Which is not necessarily a bad thing.

But I can definitely see him doing something like that or an Isaq PM. He has an eye on his legacy and being ''the first'' to do something.

 

[thatrapsfan]

You're right. 5* hotel bills in Nairobi add up lol. The good thing is he didn't show those tendencies of nepotism when he was PM. He was even handed.



At the bolded I actually had that thought. One thing I will say is he is very media/PR savvy and is clearly influenced by American style electioneering. Which is not necessarily a bad thing.

But I can definitely see him doing something like that or an Isaq PM. He has an eye on his legacy and being ''the first'' to do something.

The Isaaq PM would be a bad idea. That would be seen as an appointment of a PM w/ no base in Somalia, so they'd portray him as a puppet and the other competitors would flip. Not to mention the fact SL obviously would get angry.

Unfortunately we still have to consider this zero sum thinking in politics, until government authority is widely established across the country. Im interested in seeing who the rumour mills will say may be PM. Wont be long before the Somali fake news mill starts spinning against him

 

[thatrapsfan]

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Ethiopia is a national security threat to all Somalis, whether it be the dams that block our rivers which we depend on for food, to the extra-judicial killings of Somalis in the guise to "fight" terrorism, Ethiopia is a menace to Somalia, they see us as enemies, why shouldn't I? I don't see the threat of fellow Somalis due to clan delusions, I see geo-politics as more interesting. Plus I hate UAE too, they want to dominate and kill our markets in the strategic area we inhabit in the Somali Peninsula. Lastly, AMISOM is still in my capital and Kenya is trying to finesse us for our water rights. Somalia needs a rational nationalist governing it. Somalia needs it's own Mao Zedong, these are perilous times for the homeland.

Wtf, which of the dams threatens the Somalis downstream? I have my own disagreements about Ethiopia's damn projects but Somalis wouldn't be affected at all.

Ain't nobody thinkin about y'all it's too much fukkery in Ethiopia for them to be a threat to Somalia. At most, Ethiopia fears the al Shabaab element but on the whole actual Ethiopian people have no issue with Somalis hell Somalis are in huge numbers in Ethiopia but you acting like this is some Hitler shyt and they getting jailed and slaughtered every day.

 

[Karb]

Ending AMISOM mandate has to be a priority

Yes, the focus should be on rebuilding the SNA. It's been deliberately been underfunded to keep us dependent on AMISOM and also because there is, understandably, a lot of distrust from regional administrations who fear that it will become just another tribal militia which will eventually be used against them.

 

[Karb]

Wtf, which of the dams threatens the Somalis downstream? I have my own disagreements about Ethiopia's damn projects but Somalis wouldn't be affected at all.

Ain't nobody thinkin about y'all it's too much fukkery in Ethiopia for them to be a threat to Somalia. At most, Ethiopia fears the al Shabaab element but on the whole actual Ethiopian people have no issue with Somalis hell Somalis are in huge numbers in Ethiopia but you acting like this is some Hitler shyt and they getting jailed and slaughtered every day.

Ethiopia is heavily involved in somali politics breh. That's not even up for debate.

 

[thatrapsfan]

Regional admins will have less excuses for lack of cooperation with the federal government. The Xamar conspiracy bogeyman wont work anymore with Farmaajo.

We will see if the regional admins will be obstacles to reconciliation or not.

For one, the regional admins need to phase out their shadow administrations that replicate everything the federal government does. There is zero reason why PL/Jubbaland/Galmudug etc should have a foreign minister or Presidents that essentially duplicate areas that should be of federal jurisdiction. Of course its too early to say they should do it now, but they need to stop digging in.

 

[Karb]

Who will be PM? This is big symbolic challenge for Farmaajo. He must ensure that he picks a new face. Picking Sharif would be terrible optics.

If he wants to keep up the populism and good will, he should pick a woman.

Why a woman? You think gender issues are a priority at this point?


He needs to take a lot of things into consideration. In a perfect world, he would only worry about choosing the best candidate even if it's his own cousin. But he has to think about how his pick will be perceived by other clans, whether or not he wants to get into a full-blown political conflict with countries like Ethiopia, Kenya the UAE etc.. When he was a PM, they got rid of him after 8 months because he rushed through too many changes which made these foreign powers and their Somali lackeys too uneasy. I suspect that he will be a bit more pragmatic this time around.

The only way he can go fully rogue is if he has a strong international backer that's willing to bankroll him and give him political cover.

 

[thatrapsfan]

Why a woman? You think gender issues are a priority at this point?


He needs to take a lot of things into consideration. In a perfect world, he would only worry about choosing the best candidate even if it's his own cousin. But he has to think about how his pick will be perceived by other clans, whether or not he wants to get into a full-blown political conflict with countries like Ethiopia, Kenya the UAE etc.. When he was a PM, they got rid of him after 8 months because he rushed through too many changes which made these foreign powers and their Somali lackeys too uneasy. I suspect that he will be a bit more pragmatic this time around.

The only way he can go fully rogue is if he has a strong international backer that's willing to bankroll him and give him political cover.

Because it will allow him to pick a fresh candidate without baggage. Also the fact this Parliament had women and youth quotas, very likely influenced how they ended up voting. Less entrenched in the clan politics ecosystem and thus have a higher likelihood of voting independently.

Almost all the goodwill Farmaajo has is about optics and this would be an easy way to keep it up by picking an entirely new face.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Ethiopia is heavily involved in somali politics breh. That's not even up for debate.

I'm not debating that. ICU getting overthrown by Ethiopia is still some of the dumbest shyt ever considering how moderate they were in comparison to AS. But even with that, a destabilized Ethiopia would fukk the whole region up and again the dam projects don't affect Somali people downstream shyt it's more Ethiopians adversely affected by these projects actually.

Somalia and Ethiopia should be eating good together but it's too much mistrust between us. The politics in the whole of East Africa is up for scrutiny and debate I don't think anyone can deny that.

 

[Karb]

I'm not debating that. ICU getting overthrown by Ethiopia is still some of the dumbest shyt ever considering how moderate they were in comparison to AS. But even with that, a destabilized Ethiopia would fukk the whole region up and again the dam projects don't affect Somali people downstream shyt it's more Ethiopians adversely affected by these projects actually.

Somalia and Ethiopia should be eating good together but it's too much mistrust between us. The politics in the whole of East Africa is up for scrutiny and debate I don't think anyone can deny that.

I don't agree with destabilizing Ethiopia. It's like ten times more populous than Somalia so a civil war in Ethiopia would get very ugly and eventually destroy the whole region. It would be ten times worse than the somali civil war. It's a nightmare scenario IMO. I do wish for a more decentralized form of government though, I think this would ensure long term peace and prosperity for all parties involved. There's too much mistrust between all ethnic groups at this point for them to accept to be dominated by one group of people.

We should seek a normalized relationship, but the Ethiopian government is going to have to change course for that to happen. Somalia is weak right now and it seems like the Ethiopian government wants it to stay weak and pacified.

 

[Karb]

Because it will allow him to pick a fresh candidate without baggage. Also the fact this Parliament had women and youth quotas, very likely influenced how they ended up voting. Less entrenched in the clan politics ecosystem and thus have a higher likelihood of voting independently.

Almost all the goodwill Farmaajo has is about optics and this would be an easy way to keep it up by picking an entirely new face.

He needs someone who will appease certain clans while being in line with Farmajo's overall policy.

Sad to say, but clans still do matter in Somali politics.

What would you say are his biggest priorities in the next four years? Which policies should be implemented and how should he deal with Kenya, Ethiopia, UAE, Turkey and all the other international players?

 

[Entropy Fan]

Who will be PM? This is big symbolic challenge for Farmaajo. He must ensure that he picks a new face. Picking Sharif would be terrible optics.

If he wants to keep up the populism and good will, he should pick a woman.

Hell no