Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism Documentary

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Creationists disagreeing with one particular theory is a far cry from "all creationists rally against science."

I don't see how else to look at it

any explanation that involves the supernatural is not science
 

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1. Take note that those people aren't Representatives of all people who believe in a creator nor are they good representatives of the very "God" they believe they serve.

no true scotsman?
 

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Are you going to provide an example or not? I find your rambling to be extremely pointless.

You gave a half of example in "young earth theory" but it was a weak example which further proves your own lack of understanding if nothing else. Are you one of those people who thinks creationists believe the Earth is 6000 years old or something?

See what I'm saying. Weak, amateur arguments. It's what your entire stance is built on. And that makes for a not so sound foundation.

Examples or good day.

im not going to go research or find links on the internet just to prove something to u that we all know is true. u kno exactly the type of people who im talking about, but youd rather sit there on your high horse and make smug comments.

weve all seen the type of people who laugh off evolution as an entire theory because its not gods word. if your just gonna sit there and tell me to find a specific example you arent making a point
 

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no true scotsman?

:manny: take it for what's it's worth
Just remember there's another thread where a "scientist" is talking about the "theory of space", if we don't differentiate between true scottsmen and fake ones then we're destined to be fooled eventually.


Hmmm
There needs to be a new "debate term" coined, one that points out that there are times when an englishman is pretending to be a scottsman and it's ok to point it out.

"No No true scottsman"?
"No really, he ain't a true scottsman"?
:manny:
 

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take it for what's it's worth
Just remember there's another thread where a "scientist" is talking about the "theory of space", if we don't differentiate between true scottsmen and fake ones then we're destined to be fooled eventually.

Hmmm
There needs to be a new "debate term" coined, one that points out that there are times when an englishman is pretending to be a scottsman and it's ok to point it out.

"No No true scottsman"?
"No really, he ain't a true scottsman"?

that's not really what the No True Scotsman fallacy is all about

No True Scotsman - RationalWiki

No True Scotsman is a logical fallacy by which an individual attempts to avoid being associated with an unpleasant act by asserting that no true member of the group they belong to would do such a thing. Instead of acknowledging that some members of a group have undesirable characteristics, the fallacy tries to redefine the group to exclude them. Sentences such as "all members of X have desirable trait Y" then become tautologies, because Y becomes a requirement of membership in X.
 

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HARUN YAHYA IS A WELL KNOWN MUSLIM CREATIONIST WHO DISTRIBUTES ANTI-SCIENCE PROPAGANDA, BROTHER!

KEN HAM IS A WELL KNOWN CHRISTIAN CREATIONIST WHO CLAIMS THE EARTH IS 6000 YEARS OLD, BROTHER!

Are you one of those people who thinks creationists believe the Earth is 6000 years old or something?

Ken Ham said:
The Earth is 6,000 years old.

:youngsabo:
 

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im not going to go research or find links on the internet just to prove something to u that we all know is true. u kno exactly the type of people who im talking about, but youd rather sit there on your high horse and make smug comments.

weve all seen the type of people who laugh off evolution as an entire theory because its not gods word. if your just gonna sit there and tell me to find a specific example you arent making a point

Wow. Simply wow.

Let's recap, shall we? @the cac mamba said "science disproves several religious "facts" and "truths"" and when asked for an example he gave the very weak example that many who lack understanding would give and said "the young earth theory" which is a big red flag meaning "I don't have a clue what I'm talking about." And that's the "example he chose to use.

When quickly debunked and again asked for an example he says "im not going to go research or find links on the internet just to prove something to u that we all know is true." Well I do believe this argument is worse than "The Bible is true because the Bible says it's true" argument.

"Science disproves several religious facts" but @the cac mamba is "not going to go research or find links on the internet just to prove something to u that we all know is true."



Ok. For the record, I asked you for an example to backup your ridiculous claim and you failed to provide a single one.

Thank you. For both your effort and the laugh.
 
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HARUN YAHYA IS A WELL KNOWN MUSLIM CREATIONIST WHO DISTRIBUTES ANTI-SCIENCE PROPAGANDA, BROTHER!

KEN HAM IS A WELL KNOWN CHRISTIAN CREATIONIST WHO CLAIMS THE EARTH IS 6000 YEARS OLD, BROTHER!





:youngsabo:

:snoop:

I will answer this ridiculous post with a story and hope your brain is evolved enough to comprehend.


A guide was taking a party round the British Museum. 'This sarcophagus is five thousand years old.' A bearded figure with a turban stepped forward.
'You are mistaken,' said Nasrudin, 'for it is five thousand and three years old.'
Everyone was impressed, and the guide was not pleased. They passed into another room.
'This vase', said the guide, 'is two thousand five hundred years old.'
'Two thousand five hundred and three,' intoned Nasrudin. 'Now look here,' said the guide, 'how can you date things so precisely ? I don't care if you do come from the East, people just don't know things like that.'
'Simple,' said Nasrudin. 'I was last here three years ago. That time you said the vase was two thousand five hundred years old.'
Moral: It's later than you think.



If creationists claim the Earth took 6000 years to form, why would it still be 6000 years old today? Will it still be 6000 years old next year? It took 9 months for you to develop in your mother's womb but surely you have lived for some time after that.

You're not using your intellect to its full capacity. Or are you?
 

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Sorry, but I don't know any creationists who "rally against science" so I can't ask that question.

Please inform me of these "religious facts and truths disproved by science" though.

How about the crazy nonsense in Leviticus 14 about cleansing a leper. Some nonsense about killing birds and lambs and sprinkling blood. We know for certain that this is not the way treat an illness.
 

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I don't see how else to look at it

any explanation that involves the supernatural is not science

So disagreeing with one scientific theory which itself hasn't been proven means one is against all science.

That is revealing information to say the least. Unfortunately for you, it doesn't reveal anything about creationists but it says quite a bit about you.

Are you sure that's the stance you want to take?
 

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How about the crazy nonsense in Leviticus 14 about cleansing a leper. Some nonsense about killing birds and lambs and sprinkling blood. We know for certain that this is not the way treat an illness.

I believe the Bible has been corrupted by man so perhaps you may find scientific inconsistencies in it.

But there are certainly many ways to treat illnesses. I don't recall the particular story you're referring to off the top of my head but keep in mind that the Bible was never meant to be a book of medicine.

If you're sick I would suggest you see a Doctor. The Creator blessed man with intelligence to use the many bounties of the Earth to his advantage.
 
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